Jeanes.
Saint Augustins words at large are as followeth, Quod signum nisi 〈◊〉〈◊〉, five 〈◊〉〈◊〉 〈◊〉〈◊〉, 〈◊〉〈◊〉 ipsi aquae qua 〈◊〉〈◊〉, sive 〈◊〉〈◊〉 quo Chrismate ungun∣tur, sive sacrificio 〈◊〉〈◊〉 aluntur, 〈◊〉〈◊〉 eorum 〈◊〉〈◊〉 〈◊〉〈◊〉. Saint 〈◊〉〈◊〉 here you see approves of the Chrism, and os the crossing of the Oyle therein, and sets it check by 〈◊〉〈◊〉 wi h the water in 〈◊〉〈◊〉 and the Sacrament of the Lords Supper; now your 〈◊〉〈◊〉 doe hope that you doe not concurre with him herein; and if you doe not, why doe you urge us with the authority of his Testimony?
2. If you apply Saint Augustines words to our times, and aver, that they can∣not be denyed to have 〈◊〉〈◊〉 in them, 〈◊〉〈◊〉 your opinion is, that unlesse the 〈◊〉〈◊〉 of the Crosse be used to the water in Baptism, and to the Elements in the Lords Supper, 〈◊〉〈◊〉 〈◊〉〈◊〉 are not duly performed with such ceremonies, as by custome of the Church, the rule of decency, belong unto them; and then what Apology can you make for the Church of 〈◊〉〈◊〉, that never since the Resor∣mation used any of these Crossings.
3. Suppose 〈◊〉〈◊〉 in Augustines time had been administred without Crossing of either the forehead of the Baptised, or the water wherewith they were baptised, it had then indeed been performed not with such 〈◊〉〈◊〉 as by the Custome of the then Church belonged 〈◊〉〈◊〉 it: and so Fulk, in his 〈◊〉〈◊〉 of the Rhemists, expoundeth Augustines 〈◊〉〈◊〉, page 693, but this 〈◊〉〈◊〉 nothing against us; for we hold that such Baptisme hath been 〈◊〉〈◊〉, that is, duly, lawfully, and laudably administred, because it would have been agreeable unto Christs institution, which alone, and not the custome of the Church, is the rule of its administration,
4. These words of Augustine are at best, but propositio malè sonans; for they 〈◊〉〈◊〉 a palpable appearance of evill, because they plainly seem to assert the ne∣cessity of the Sign of the Crosse unto Baptisme and the Lords Supper. Bellar∣mine bringeth them to prove, that nothing can be consecrated without the sign of the Crosse, de Sacra 〈◊〉〈◊〉. lib. 2. c. 13 as also to justifie their Crossings, 〈◊〉〈◊〉 they use in the 〈◊〉〈◊〉, de Missa, lib. 3. c. 13. And there's a Popish Ballad mentioned by the Abridgement, and transcribed in Parker, wherein I beleeve this is one of the places in Augustine, related unto, part. 1 p. 92.
Without the Crosse Saint Augustinesaith, (Read him and 〈◊〉〈◊〉 may see) 1. No man is stedfast in the Faith, Nor Christened well may 〈◊〉〈◊〉.No Sacrifice, no holy Oyle, No washing in the Font, 2. Nor any thing can thee 〈◊〉〈◊〉, If thou the Cross do want.Children by it have Christendome, The water's blest also: 3. The Holy Ghost appears to some, 〈◊〉〈◊〉 gifts of Grace bestow,