Seven philosophical problems and two propositions of geometry by Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury ; with an apology for himself and his writings.
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Seven philosophical problems and two propositions of geometry by Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury ; with an apology for himself and his writings.
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Hobbes, Thomas, 1588-1679.
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1682.
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CHAP. VII. Problems of Motion Perpendicular, Ob∣lique;
of Pression and Percussion; Re∣flection
and Refraction; Attraction and
Repulsion. (Book 7)
IF a Bullet from a certain point given,
be shot against a wall Perpendicularly
and again from the same Point Oblique,
What will be the proportion of the Forces
wherewith they urge the wall?
For Example, let the wall be A B, a
point given E, a Gun C E that carries the
Bullet Perpendicularly to F, and another
Gun D E that carries the like Bullet with
the same swiftness Oblique to G; In what
proportion will their Forces be upon the
Wall?
B.
The force of the stroke Perpendi∣cular
from E to F will be greater then
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the Oblique force from E to G, in the
proportion of the line E G to the line
E F.
A.
How can the difference be so much?
Can the Bullet lose so much of its force
in the way from E to G?
B.
No we will suppose it loseth no∣thing
of its swiftness. But the cause is,
That their swiftness being equal, the
one is longer in coming to the wall then
the other, in Proportion of Time, as
E G to E F. For though their swiftness
be the same▪ considered in themselves,
yet the swiftness of their approach to the
wall is greater in E F then in E G, in
proportion of the lines themselves.
A.
When a Bullet enters not, but re∣bounds
from the wall, does it make the
same Angle going off, which it did falling
on, as the Sun-beams do?
B.
If you measure the Angles close
by the wall there difference will not be
ensible; otherwise it will be great e∣nough,
For the Motion of the Bullet
grows continually weaker. But it is not
so with the Sun-beams which press con∣tinually
and equally.
A.
What is the cause of Reflection?
When a body can go no further on, it has
lost its Motion. Whence then comes the
Motion by which it reboundeth?
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B.
This Motion of rebounding or re∣flecting
proceedeth from the resistance.
There is a difference to be considered
between the Reflection of Light, and
of a Bullet, answerable to their different
Motions, pressing and striking. For the
action which makes Reflection of Light,
is the Pressure of the Air upon the Re∣flecting
Body, caused by the Sun, or o∣ther
shining body, and is but a contra∣ry
endeavour; as if two men should
press with their breasts upon the two ends
of a Staff, though they did not remove
one another, yet they would find in
themselves a great disposition to press
backward upon whatsoever is behind
them, though not a total going out of
their places. Such is the way of Reflect∣ing
Light. Now, when the falling on of
the Sun-beams is Oblique, the action of
them is nevertheless Perpendicular to the
Superficies it falls on. And therefore the
Reflecting Body, by resisting, turneth
back that Motion Perpendicularly, as
from F to E, but taketh nothing from
the force that goes on parallel in the line
of E H; because the Motion never
presses. And thus of the two Motions
from F to E, and from E to H is a com∣pounded
Motion in the line F H, which
maketh an Angle in B G, equal to the
Angle F G E.
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But in Percussion (which is the Mo∣tion
of the Bullet against a wall,) the
Bullet no sooner goeth off then it loseth
of its swiftness, and inclineth to the Earth
by its weight. So that the Angles made
in falling on and going off, cannot be
equal, unless they be measured close to
the point where the stroke is made.
A.
If a man set a Board upright upon
its edge, though it may very easily be cast
down with a little Pressure of ones finger,
yet a Bullet from a Musquet shall not throw
it down but go through it. What is the
cause of that?
B.
In pressing with your finger you
spend time to throw it down. For the
Motion you give to the part you touch is
communicated to every other part before
it fall. For the whole cannot fall till
every part be moved. But the stroke of
a Bullet is so swift, as it breaks through
before the Motion of the part it hits can
be communicated to all the other parts
that must fall with it.
A.
The stroke of a Hammer will drive a
Nail a great way into a piece of Wood on
a sudden. What weight laid upon the head
of a Nail, and in how much time will do
the same? It is a question I have heard
propounded amonst Naturalists,
B.
The different manner of the ope∣ration
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of weight from the operation of
a stroke, makes it uncalculable. The
suddenness of the stroke upon one point
of the wood takes away the time of re∣sistance
from the rest. Therefore the Nail
enters so far as it does. But the weight
not only gives them time, but also aug∣ments
the resistance; but how much,
and in how much time, is (I think) im∣possible
to determine.
A.
What is tbe difference between Re∣flection
and Recoiling?
B.
Any Reflection may (and not un∣properly)
be called recoiling; but not
contrariwise every Recoiling Reflection.
Reflection is always made by the Re-acti∣on
of a Body prest or stricken; but Re∣coiling
not always. The Recoiling of a
Gun is not caused by its own pressing up∣on
the Gun-powder, but by the force of
the Powder it self, inflamed and moved
every way alike:
A.
I had thought it had been by the
sudden re-entring of the Air after the flame
and Bullet were gone out. For it is impossible
that so much room as is left empty by the
discharging of the Gun, should be so sud∣denly
filled with the Air that entereth at
the Touch-hole.
B.
The flame is nothing but the Pow∣der
it self, which scattered into its smal∣lest
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parts seems, of greater bulk by much,
then in truth it is, because they shine.
And as the parts scatter more and more,
so still more Air gets between them, en∣tring
not only at the Touch-hole, but al∣so
at the mouh of the Gun. which two
ways being opposite, it will be much too
weak to make the Gun Recoil.
A.
I have heard that a great Gun char∣ged
too much or too little, will Shoot (not
above, nor below but) besides the mark;
and charged with one certain charge be∣tween
both will hit it.
B.
How that should be I cannot ima∣gine.
For when all things in the cause are
equal, the effects cannot be unnequal. As
soon as Fire is given, and before the Bul∣let
be out, the Gun begins to Recoil. If
then there be any unevenness or rub in
the ground more on one side then on the
other, it shall shoot besides the mark,
whether too much, or too little, or justly
charged; because if the line wherein the
Gun Recoileth decline, the way of the
Bullet will also decline to the contrary
side of the mark. Therefore I can ima∣gine
no cause of this event, but either in
the ground it Recoils on, or in the une∣qual
weight of the parts of the Breech.
A.
How comes Refractin?
B.
When the action is in a line Per∣pendicular
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to the superficies of the Body
wrought upon, there will be no Refracti∣on
at all. The action will proceed still in
the same straight Line, whether it be Pres∣sion
as in Light, or in Percussion as in
the shooting of a Bullet. But when
the Pression is Oblique, then will the
Refraction be that way which the Na∣ture
of the Bodies through which the
Action proceeds shall determin.
H.
How is light Refracted?
B.
If is pass through a Body of
less, into a Body of greater resistance,
and to the Point of the Superficies it
falleth on, you draw a Line Perpen∣dicular
to the same superficies, the
Action will proceed not in the same Line
by which it fell on, but in another
Line bending toward that Perpen∣diculare.
A.
What is the reason of that?
B.
I told you before, that the falling on
worketh only in the Perpendicular;
But as soon as the Action proceedeth fur∣ther
inward then a meer touch, it worketh
partly in the Perpendicular, and partly
forward, and would proceed in the
same line in which it fell on, but for
for the greater resistance which now
weakneth the Motion forward, and
makes it to incline towards the Perpen∣dicular.
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A.
In transparent Bodies it may be so;
but there be Bodies through which the
Light cannot pass at all.
B.
But the Action by which Light is
made, passeth through all Bodies. For
this Action is Pression; and whatsoever
is prest, presseth that which is next be∣hind,
and so continually. But the cause
why there is no Light seen through it, is
the uneveness of the parts within, whereby
the Action is by an infinite number of
Reflections so diverted and weakned,
that before it hath proceeded through,
it hath not strength left towork upon
the Eye strongly enough to produce
sight.
A.
If the Body being transparent the Acti∣on
proceed quite through, into a Body again
of less resistance, as out of Glass into the
Air, which way shall it then proceed in
the Air?
B.
From the Point where it goeth
forth, draw a Perpendicular to the su∣perficies
of the Glass, the Action now
freed from the resistance it suffered, will
go from that Perpendicular, as much
as it did before come towards it.
A.
When a Bullet from out of the Air
entreth into a Wall of Earth, will that al∣so
be Refracted towards the Perpendicu∣lar?
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B.
If the Earth be all of one kind, it
will. For the parallel Motion, will there
also at the first entrance be resisted,
which it was not before it entred.
A.
How then comes a Bullet, when shot
very Obliquely into any broad Water, and
having entred, yet to rise, again into the
Air?
B.
When a Bullet is shot very Ob∣liquely,
though the Motion be never
so swift, yet approach downwards to
the Water is very slow, and when it
cometh to it, it casteth up much Wa∣ter
before it, which with its weight
presseth downwards again, and maketh
the Water to rise under the Bullet with
force enough to master the weak Moti∣on
of the Bullet downwards, and to make
it rise in such manner as Bodies use to
rise by Reflection.
A.
By what Motion (seeing you ascribe
all Effects to Motion) can a Load-stone
draw Iron to it?
B.
By the same Motion hitherto sup∣posed.
But though all the smallest parts
of the Earth have this Motion, yet it
is not supposed that their Motions are
in equal Circles; nor that they keep
just time with one another; nor that
they have all the same Poles. If they
had, all Bodies would draw one another
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alike. For such an agreement of Moti∣on,
of Way, of Swiftness, of Poles,
cannot be maintained without the con∣junction
of the Bodies themselves in the
Center of their common Motion, but
by violence.
If therefore the Iron have but so much
of the Nature of the Load-stone as re∣dily
to receive from it the like Motion,
as one String of a Lute doth from another
String strained to the same Note (as
it is like enough it hath, the Load-stone
being but one kind of Iron Ore) it
must needs after that Motion received
from it, (unless the greatness of the
weight hinder) come nearer to it, be∣cause
at distance their Motions will differ
in time, and oppose each other where∣by
they will be forced to a common Cen∣ter.
If the Iron be lifted up from the
Earth, the Motion of the Load-stone
must be stronger, or the Body of it near∣er,
to overcome the Weight; and then
the Iron will leap up to the Load-stone as
as Swiftly as from the same distance,
it would fall down to the Earth; but if
both the Stone and the Iron be set float∣ing
upon the Water, the attraction will
begin to be manifest at a greater distance,
because the hindrance of the weight is
in part removed.
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A.
But why does the Load-stone if it
float on a Calm Water, never fail to place it
self at last in the Meridian just North
and South.
B.
Not so, just in the Meridian, but
almost in all places with some variations.
But the cause I think is, that the Axis of
this Magnetical Motion is parallel to the
Axis of the Ecliptique, which is the Ax∣is
of the like Motion in the Earth,
and consequently that it cannot freely
exercise its Natural Motion in any other
Scituation.
A.
Whence may this consent of Motion
in the Load-stone and the Earth proceed?
Do you think (as some have written) that
the Earth is a great Load-stone?
B.
Dr. Gilbert that was the first that
wrote any thing of this Subject ration∣ally,
inclines to that opinion. Decartes
thought the Earth (excepting this upper
crust of a few Miles depth) to be of the
same Nature with all other Stars, and
bright. For my part I am content to be
ignorant; but I believe the Load stone
hath given its virtue by a long habitude
in the Mine, the Vein of it lying in the
plain of some of the Meridians, or ra∣ther
of some of the great Circles that pass
through the Poles of the Ecliptique,
which are the same with the Poles of
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the like Motion supposed in the Earth.
A.
If that be true▪ I need not ask why
the filings of Iron laid on a Load-stone
equally distant from its Poles will lie paral∣lel
to the Axis, but one each side incline
to the Pole that is next it. Nor why by
drawing a Load-ston all a long a Needle
of Iron, the Needle will receive the same
Poles Nor why when the Load-stone and
Iron (or two Load-stones) are put together
floating upon Water, will fall one of them a
Stern of the other, that their like parts may
look the same way, and their unlike touch,
in which Action they are commonly said to
Repel one another. For all this may be
deriv'd from the union of their Motions.
One thing more I desire to know, and that
is; What are those things they call Spirits?
I mean Ghosts, Fairies, Hobgoblins, and
the like Apparitions.
B.
They are no part of the Subject
of Natural Philosophy.
A.
That which in all Ages, and all places
is commonly seen (as those have been, un∣less
a great part of Mankind by Lyers)
cannot, I think, be supernatural.
B.
All this that I have hitherto said,
though upon better ground than can be
had for a discourse of Ghosts, you ought
to take but for a Dream.
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A.
I do so. But there be some Dreams
more like sense then others. And that which
is like sense pleases me as well (in natural
Philosophy) as if it were the very truth.
B.
I was Dreaming also once of these
things; but was weakened by their noise.
And they never came into any Dream
of mine since, unless Apparitionrs in
Dreams and Ghoasts be all one.
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