now by all the severall particulars under this fifth head, the under∣standing Reader may observe that not only in many respects your non-Communion and Magistrates power are not a remedie com∣parable to the Presbyterian way, not proper, nor to the nature of the offences and things in question, a way in stead of bringing things to an end, redressing and mending matters amisse, that will be but the beginning of more strife and making more diffe∣rences and evils then either it sindes, or can heale, the mother and nurse of Confusions, Disorders, and endlesse contentions; but al∣so that all the power here pretended to be given to the Magistrate upon examination is no such matter nor will not amount to make good the ends propounded; whereas the Presbyteriall Govern∣ment here scandalized, as either wholly inconsistent with this forme of Civill Government, or else not giving it its due, will be found by its principles not only to have powerfull spirituall reme∣dies for all spirituall evils of the Church, but will be found in ma∣ny respects to make use of, and to give honour and power to the Civill Magistrate as a nursing Father from first to last, even in the ordinary way of the Order and Government of the Church be∣yond you, besides what they give more in extraordinary cases, in a Church miserably corrupted, disordered, &c. Of which the Rea∣der may read at large in Apollonius (who was a great Presbyteri∣an, cap. 2.) And so learned Illi certè nul∣lo modosinendi sunt vivere, cii illorum tempo∣rali vita alijs aeterna mors. Zach. de ma∣gistr. 168. Beza. Epist. 83.Zanchius in his Tractate de Magistra∣tis, shewes 'tis in the power of the Magistrate not to suffer Here∣tickes nor erroneous persons to preach, and he gives him coactive punitive power to cut them off. Beza a great Presbyterian, in his Epistles and other writings, in matters of Religion doth not ex∣clude the Magistrate, but gives him that power in some things which you deny: but besides that power they give the Magistrate, they stand for, as needfull in the Church, Classes and Synods for the Government of it: Zanchy shewes that discipline cannotZanch de Eccl. . gubern. p 552. quar. praecept 713.take place, where the Ministers never meet together, the me∣ting of Ministers and Ecclesiasticall Synods we judge most ne∣cessary; As no Politie, Common-wealth or Kingdome can con∣sist without their meetings, Senates and Councels; so there is need of Synods for the governing of the Church and for the pre∣venting of herfies: In a word all things are loose in indepen∣dent 0