Basiliká the works of King Charles the martyr : with a collection of declarations, treaties, and other papers concerning the differences betwixt His said Majesty and his two houses of Parliament : with the history of his life : as also of his tryal and martyrdome.

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Basiliká the works of King Charles the martyr : with a collection of declarations, treaties, and other papers concerning the differences betwixt His said Majesty and his two houses of Parliament : with the history of his life : as also of his tryal and martyrdome.
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Charles I, King of England, 1600-1649.
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The King's Commissioners Reply to the two last Papers. The King's Commissioners Paper, 20. February.

[ CLXXV] WE are very sorry that our Answers formerly given to your Lordships in the business of the Cessation, which was so necessary to be made, and being made to be kept, have not given your Lordships satisfaction; and that your Lordships have not rather thought fit to make the reasonableness of your Propositions concerning Ire∣land appear to us, or to make such as might be reasonable in the stead, then by charging his Majesty with many particulars which highly reflect upon his Honour, to compel us to mention many things in Answer to your Lordships Allegations, which otherwise in a time of Treaty, when we would rather endeavour to prevent future Inconveniences then to insist on past mistakes, we desired to have omitted. And we can no ways admit, that when the Cessation was made in Ireland, his Majesties Protestant Subjects there could

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have subsisted without that Cessation, nor that the War can be maintained and prosecu∣ted to the subduing the Rebels there so long as the War continues in this Kingdom; which are the chief grounds laid for the Assertions in your Lordships first Paper delivered this day, concerning the business of Ireland. Neither can we conceive that your Lordships have alleged any thing that could in the least degree satisfie us, that his Majesty had no Power to make that Cessation, or had no Reason so to do, considering (as we have formerly said, and do again insist upon it) that by that Cessation (which was not made till long after this Kingdom was embroiled in a miserable War) the poor Protestants there (who for want of Supplies from hence were ready to famish and be destroyed) were preserved, and that Kingdom kept from utter Ruin, (so far was it from being a design for their Destruction, or for the advantage of the Popish bloody Rebels, as is insinuated:) for it appears by the Letters of the Lords Justices of Ireland, Sir William Parsons and Sir John Borlase, and of the Council there, of the fourth of April 1643. before that Cessation made, directed to the Speaker of the House of Commons, a Copy where∣of we delivered to your Lordships, though we presume you may have the Original, That His Majesties Army and good Subjects there were in danger to be devoured for want of needful Supplies forth of England; and that His Majesties Forces were of Necessity sent abroad, to try what might be done for sustaining them in the Country, to keep them alive until Supplies should get to them: but that design failing, those their hopes were converted in∣to astonishment, to behold the Miseries of the Officers and Souldiers for want of all things, and all those Wants made unsupportable in the want of Food; and divers Commanders and Officers declaring they had little hope to be supplied by the Parliament, pressed with so great importunity to be permitted to depart the Kingdom, as that it would be extreme difficult to keep them there. And in another part of that Letter (for we shall not grieve you with mention of all their Complaints) they expressed, That they were expelling thence all Stran∣gers, and must instantly send away for England thousands of poor despoiled English, whose very eating was then unsupportable to that place; that their Confusions would not admit the writing of many more Letters, if any, (for they had written divers others, expressing their great Necessities.) And to the end His Majesty and the English Nation might not irrecoverably and unavoidably suffer, they did desire that then (though it were almost at the point to be too late) supplies of Victuals and Ammunition in present might be hastned thither to keep life until the rest might follow, there being no Victual in the store, nor a hundred Barrells of Powder (a small pro∣portion to defend a Kingdom) left in the store, when the out-Garrisons (as they were to be instant∣ly) were supplied and that remainder, according to the usual necessary expence, besides extraordinary accidents, would not last above a Month. And in that Letter they sent a Paper signed by sundry Officers of the Army, delivered to them as they were ready to sign that Dispatch, and by them apprehended to threaten imminent Danger, which mentioned, That they were brought to that great exigence, that they were ready to rob and spoil one another; that their Wants began to make them desperate that if the Lords Justices and Council there did not find a speedy way for their pre∣servation, they did desire that they might have leave to go away; that if that were not granted, they must have recourse to the Law of Nature, which teacheth all men to preserve themselves.

And by a Letter of the 11. of May following (a Copy whereof we have also delivered to your Lordships) the Lords Justices and Council there did advertise his Majesty, That they had no Victual, Cloaths, or other Provisions, no Money to provide them of any thing they want, no Arms, not above 40. Barrels of Powder, no strength of serviceable Horse, no visible means by Sea or Land of being able to preserve that Kingdom; and that though the Winds had in many days, and often formerly, stood very fair for accessions of Supplies forth of England (the two Houses having then and ever since the full Command of those Seas) yet to their unexpres∣sible grief, after full six months waiting, and much longer patience and long suffering, they found their expectations answered in an inconsiderable quantity of Provisions, viz. 75 Barrels of Butter and 14 Tun of Cheese, being but the fourth part of a small Vessels-loading, which was sent from London, and arrived there on the fifth of May, which was not above 7 or 8 days Provisions for that part of the Army, in and about Dublin; no Money or Victuals (other then that inconsiderable proportion of Victuals) having arrived there as sent from the Parliament of England, or from any other forth of England, for the use of the Army since the beginning of November be∣fore. And besides these, whereof we have* 1.1 Copies to your Lordships, it was repre∣sented to His Majesty by Petition from that Kingdom, That all means by which com∣fort and life should be conveyed to that gasping Kingdom seemed to be totally obstructed, and that unless timely relief were afforded, His Loyal Subjects there must yield their Fortunes for a Prey, their Lives for a Sacrifice, and their Religion for a Scorn to the merciless Rebels. Upon all which deplorable passages, represented by Persons principally inte∣ressed in the managing of the affairs of that Kingdom and the War there, in which num∣ber were Sir William Parsons, Sir John Temple, Sir Adam Loftus, and Sir Robert Meredith, Persons of great estimation with your Lordships (to which we could add many other Advices

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and Letters from several men of Repute and Quality, but that we will not trouble your Lordships with Repetition of private Advices) we cannot think but your Lordships are now satisfied, that the Necessities of that Kingdom, which were the ground of the Cessation there, were real, and not pretended: and therefore for Excuses, we leave them to them who stand in need of them; and we desire your Lordships to consider, as the di∣stracted condition of this Kingdom was, what other way could be imagined for the Pre∣servation of that Kingdom, than by giving way to that Cessation. And though it is insisted on in your Lordships Paper, that some Protestants in Vlster, Munster and Connaught, (who have refused to submit to that Cessation) have yet subsisted; yet your Lordships well know these were generally of the Scotish Nation, who had strong Garrisons provided and appointed to them, and were in those parts of Ireland near the Kingdom of Scotland, whence more ready supplies of Victuals might be had, than the English could have from England, and for whose Supply (as His Majesty hath been credibly informed, and we believe that your Lordships know it to be true) special care was taken, when the English Forces and other English Protestant Subjects there were neglected, whereby they were exposed to apparent Destruction by Sword and Famine. And we cannot but wonder at the Assertion, That His Majesties Forces have, as much as lay in them, endeavoured to prevent those Sup∣plies for Ireland, and at the mention of the intercepting those Provisions near Coventry, with His Majesties own knowledge and direction; whereas, as we have formerly ac∣quainted your Lordships, it was not known to His Majesty, that those Provisions which were taken near Coventry going thither, when His Majesties Forces were before it, were intended for Ireland, till after the seisure thereof, when it was impossible to recover them from the Souldiers; which might have been prevented, if a safe Conduct had been de∣sired through His Majesties Quarters, which we are assured he would have readily granted for those or any other Supplies for that Kingdom, but was never asked of him. And as there is no particular Instance of any other Provisions for Ireland intercepted by His Ma∣jesties Forces, but those near Coventry, which were considerable; so we can assure your Lordships, that when His Majesty was in the greatest wants of all Provisions, and might have readily made use of some provided for Ireland, lying in Magazines within His Quarters, yet he gave express Order for the sending them away, which was done accordingly, and would have supplyed them further out of His own Store, if He had been able. And no man can be unsatisfied of His Majesties tender sense of the Miseries of His Protestant Subjects in Ireland, when they shall remember how readily He gave His Royal Assent to any Pro∣position or Acts for raising of Men, Moneys, and Arms for them; that He offered to pass over in Person for their Relief, (which His Majesties Subjects of Scotland approved, and declared it to be an Argument of Care in His Majesty) and if that had proceeded, it might in possibility have quenched the flames of that unhappy Rebellion, as long before it might probably have been prevented, if the Army of Irish Natives there had been suffered to have been transported out of that Kingdom, as was directed by His Majesty.

What Provisions are lately sent, or are now sending to Ireland from the two Houses, we know not: but His Majesty hath been informed, that even those Provisions are design∣ed in pursuance of the late Treaty concerning Ireland made with His Subjects of Scotland without His Majesties consent, and only for such who have declared themselves against His Majesties Ministers, and in opposition to that Cessation to which many of them had formerly consented, though they have since, upon private Interest, and the Incouragement and Solicitations of others, opposed the same: and therefore His Majesty cannot look upon those Supplies as a Support for the War against the Irish Rebels, or as a Repayment of those Moneys, which being raised by Acts of Parliament for that War, have been formerly di∣verted to other uses, of which Money 100000 l. at one time was issued out for the pay∣ment of the Forces under the Earl of Essex.

And as to diverting the Forces provided for the reducing of Ireland, though we con∣ceived it ought not to be objected to His Majesty, considering the Forces under the Com∣mand of the Lord Wharton, raised for Ireland, had been formerly diverted and imployd against Him in the War here in England; yet it is evident they were not brought over till after the Cessation, when they could no longer subsist there, and that there was no present use for them; and before those Forces brought over, there was an attempt to bring the Scotish Forces in Ireland, as likewise divers of the English Officers there, into this Kingdom; and since the Earl of Leven their General, and divers Scotch Forces were actually brought over.

To the Allegations that many Persons of all sorts have forsaken the Kingdom, rather than they would submit to that Cessation, we know of none: but it is manifest, that divers who had left that Kingdom, because they would have been famished, if they had con∣tinued there, since that Cessation, have returned.

Touching the Committee sent into Ireland, we have already answered, they were not dis∣countenanced by His Majesty in what they lawfully might do, although they went with∣out

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His Privity, but conceive your Lordships will not insist that they should sit with the Privy-Council there, and assume to themselves to advise and interpose as Privy-Councellors. And we again deny the Subscriptions of the Officers of the Army was diverted by His Majesty; and it is well known, that some Officers apprehending upon some speeches, that the drift in requiring Subscriptions, was to engage the Army against His Majesty, in detestation thereof upon those speeches rent the Book of Subscription in pieces.

For the diversion of the Moneys raised for that War, if they had been since repaid, (the contrary whereof is credibly informed to His Majesty) yet that present Diversion might be, and we believe was, a great means of the future Wants of that Kingdom which induced the Cessation. As to the Lord Wharton's Commission, we conceive we have al∣ready fully satisfied your Lordships the just Reasons thereof.

For the Letters whereof your Lordships had Copies, we conceive that you being there∣by satisfied of the Contents, and that they came from the Lords Justices and Council there, your Lordships need not doubt of the truth of the matter: and for the Names of the single Persons subscribing, we cannot conceive it is desired for any other purpose, than to be made use of against such of them as should come into your Quarters, you having not granted, though desired, that it shall not turn to their Prejudice, if we should give in their Names.

Upon what hath been said it appears, that His Majesties English Protestant Subjects in Ireland could not subsist without a Cessation; and that the War there cannot be maintain∣ed or prosecuted to the subduing of the Rebels there, during the continuance of this un∣natural War here, is evident to any man that shall consider, that this Kingdom labour∣ing in a War which imploys all the Force and Wealth at home, cannot, nor will spare considerable Supplies to send abroad; or if it could, yet whiles there are mutual Jealousies that there cannot be that concurrence in joynt Advices betwixt the King, and the two Houses, as will be necessary, if that War be prosecuted; and that His Majesty cannot con∣descend, or your Lordships in reason expect His Majesty should by His Consent to Acts of Parliament for the managing of that War, and raising moneys to that purpose, put so great a Power into their hands, who, during these Troubles, may, if they will, turn that Power against Him; and it is apparent, that the continuance of the War here, must inevitably cause the continuance of the Miseries there, and endanger the rending of that Kingdom from this Crown.

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