St. Augustine, Of the citie of God vvith the learned comments of Io. Lod. Viues. Englished by I.H.

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St. Augustine, Of the citie of God vvith the learned comments of Io. Lod. Viues. Englished by I.H.
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Augustine, Saint, Bishop of Hippo.
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1610.
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Gods omnipotency the ground of all beleefe in things admired CHAP. 7.

VVHy then cannot (a) GOD make the bodies of the dead to rise againe, and the damned to suffer torment and yet not to consume, seeing hee hath filled heauen, earth, ayre and water so full of inumerable miracles, and the world; which hee made, beeing a greater miracle then any it containeth? But our aduersaries, beleeuing a God that made the world and the other gods, by whom he gouerneth the world, doe not deny, but auoutch that there are powers that effect wonders in the world, either voluntarily, or ceremonially and magically, but when wee giue them an instance wrought neither by man nor by spirit, they answere vs, it is nature, nature hath giuen it this quality. So then it was nature that made the Agrigentine salt melt in the fire, and crackle in the water. Was it so? this seemes rather contrary to the nature of salt, which naturally dissolueth in water, and crakleth in the fire. I but nature (say they) made this perticular salt of a quality iust opposite. Good: this then is the reason also of the heare and cold of the Garamantine fountaine, and of the other that puts out the torch and lighteth it againe, as also of the A•…•…beste, and those other, all which to re∣herse were too tedious: There is no other reason belike to bee giuen for them, but, such is their nature. A good briefe reason verely, and (b) a sufficient. But GOD beeing the Authour of all nature, why then doe they exact a stron∣ger reason of vs, when as wee in proouing that which they hold for an impo∣ssibility, affirme that it is thus by the will of Almighty GOD, who is there∣fore called Almighty because hee can doe all that hee will, hauing created so many things which were they not to bee seene, and confirmed by sufficient testimony, would seeme as impossible as the rest, whereas now wee know them, partly all, and partly some of vs. As for other things that are but reported with∣out •…•…estimony, and concerne not religion, nor are not taught in scripture, they may, bee false, and a man may lawfully refuse to beleeue them. I doe not beleeue all that I haue set downe, so firmely that I doe make no doubt of some of them, but for that which I haue tried, as the burning of lyme in water and cooling in oyle; the loade-stones drawing of Iron and not moouing a straw; the incorruptibility of the Peacoks flesh, whereas Platoes flesh did putri∣fie; the keeping of snow and the ripening of apples in chaffe; the bright fire makeing the stones of his owne col•…•…our, and wood of the iust contra∣rie, these I haue seene and beleeue without any doubt at all: Such also are these, that cleare oyle should make blacke spottes, and white siluer drawne a black line: that coales should turne black, from white wood, brittle of hard ones, and incorruptible of corruptible peeces: togither with many other which tediousnesse forbiddeth me heere to insert. For the others, excepting that foun∣taine that quensheth and kindleth againe, & the dusty apples of Sodome, I could

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not get any sufficient proofes to confirme them. Nor mett I any that had beheld that fountaine of Epyrus, but I found diuerse that had seene the like, neere vn∣to Grenoble in France. And for the Apples of Sodome, there are both graue authors, and eye-witnesses enow aliue, that can affirme it, so that I make no doubt thereof. The rest I leaue indifferent, to affirme, or deny; yet I did set them downe because they are recorded in our ad•…•…ersaries owne histories, to shew them how many things they beleeue in their owne bookes, with-out all reason, that will not giue credence to vs, when wee say that God Almighty will doe any thing that ex∣ceedeth their capacity to conceiue. What better or stronger reason can be giuen for any thing then to say, God Almighty will doe this, which hee hath promised in those bookes wherein he promiseth as strange things as this, which he hath per∣formed. He will do it, because he hath said hee will: euen hee, that hath made the incredulous Heathens beleeue things which they held meere impossibilities.

L. VIVES.

WHy then (a) cannot God] Seeing the scope of this place is diuine, and surpasseth the bounds of nature, as concerning the resurrection, iudgment, saluation, and damnation, I * 1.1 wonder that Aquinas, Scotus, Occam, Henricus de Gandauo, Durandus and Petrus de Palude dare define of them according to Aristotles positions, drawing them-selues into such laby∣rinths of naturall questions, that you would rather say they were Athenian Sophisters, then Christian diuines.] (b) Sufficient] Mans conceipt being so slender and shallow in these causes of things, in so much that Virgil said well, Faelix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas: (c) Gre∣noble] It was built by Gratian, and called Gratianopolis, Valens being Emperour of the East. It standeth in Daulphine, and reteineth part of the old name.

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