St. Augustine, Of the citie of God vvith the learned comments of Io. Lod. Viues. Englished by I.H.

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St. Augustine, Of the citie of God vvith the learned comments of Io. Lod. Viues. Englished by I.H.
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Augustine, Saint, Bishop of Hippo.
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London :: Printed by George Eld,
1610.
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Whether death propagated vnto all men from the first, be punishment of sinne to the Saints. CHAP. 3.

•…•…ere's a question not to be omitted: whether the first death bee good to 〈◊〉〈◊〉 •…•…ood? If it be so, how can it be the punishment of sinne? for had not our 〈◊〉〈◊〉 sinned, they had neuer tasted it: how then can it bee good to the vp∣•…•… cannot happen but vnto offenders? and if it happen but vnto offenders 〈◊〉〈◊〉 not be good, for it should not be at all vnto the vpright: for why should * 1.1 〈◊〉〈◊〉 punishment that haue no guilt? Wee must confesse then, that had not 〈◊〉〈◊〉 parents sinned, they had not dyed: but sinning; the punishment of death •…•…cted vpon them and all their posteritie: for they should not produce 〈◊〉〈◊〉 •…•…ng but what them-selues were, and the greatnesse of their crime depraued 〈◊〉〈◊〉 •…•…ture: so that that which was penall in the first mans offending, was made 〈◊〉〈◊〉 in the birth of all the rest: for they came not of man, as man came of the 〈◊〉〈◊〉. The dust was mans materiall: but man is mans parent. That which is earth is 〈◊〉〈◊〉 flesh, though flesh be made of earth: but that which man the father is, man the 〈◊〉〈◊〉 is also. For all man-kinde was in the first man, to bee deriued from him by the 〈◊〉〈◊〉, when this couple receiued their sentence of condemnation. And that 〈◊〉〈◊〉 man was made, not in his creation, but in his fall and condemnation, that * 1.2 〈◊〉〈◊〉 •…•…got, in respect (I meane) of sinne, and death. For his sinne (a) was not cause of 〈◊〉〈◊〉 weaknesse in infancie, or whitenesse of body, as we see in infants: those God would haue as the originall of the yonglings, whose parents he had cast downe to 〈◊〉〈◊〉 mortality, as it is written: Man was in honor and vnderstood not but became 〈◊〉〈◊〉 the beasts that perish, vnlesse that infants bee weaker in motion and appetite 〈◊〉〈◊〉 all other creatures, to shew mans mounting excellence aboue them all, com∣•…•…le to a shaft that flieth the stronger when it is drawne farthest back in the 〈◊〉〈◊〉. Therefore mans presumption and iust sentence, adiudged him not to those •…•…lities of nature: but his nature was depraued vnto the admission of con∣•…•…entiall in-obedience in his members against his will: & thereby was bound

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to death by necessity, and to produce his progeny vnder the same conditions that his crime deserued. From which band of sin, if infants by the mediators grace be freed, they shall onely bee to suffer the first death, of body, but from the eternall, penall second death, their freedome from sinne shall quit them absolutely.

L. VIVES.

HIs sinne (a) was not.] Here is another question, in what state men should haue beene borne, had they not sinned: Augustine propounds it in his booke. De baptis. paruul. some thinke they should haue beene borne little, and presently become perfect men. Others, borne little, but in perfect strength onely not groweth; and that they should presently haue followed the mother as we see chickens, and lambes. The former giue them immediate vse of sence, and reason: the later, not so, but to come by degrees, as ours do. Augustine leaues the doubt as hee findes it: seeming to suppose no other kinde of birth, but what we now haue.

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