St. Augustine, Of the citie of God vvith the learned comments of Io. Lod. Viues. Englished by I.H.

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St. Augustine, Of the citie of God vvith the learned comments of Io. Lod. Viues. Englished by I.H.
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Augustine, Saint, Bishop of Hippo.
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That all Paganisme was fully contained in dead men. CHAP. 26.

BVt marke what Hermes in his bewayling of the expulsion of those Idols out of Egipt, which had such an erroneous incredulity & irreligious institutors, faith amongst the rest•…•…, then (saith he) that holy seate of temples shall become a sepul∣cher of dead bodies. As if men should not die vnlesse these things were demolished, or being dead, should be buried any where saue in the earth? Truly the more time that passeth, the more carcasses shal stil be buried & more graues made. But this (it seemes) is his griefe, that the memories of our Martires should haue place in * 1.1 their Temples: that the mis-vnderstanding reader hereof might imagine that the Pagans worshiped gods in the Temples, and wee, dead men in their tombes. For mens blindnesse doth so carry them head-long against (a) Mountaines letting them not see till they bee struck, that they doe not consider that in all paganisme, there cannot bee a god found but hath bin a man: but on will they, and (b) honor them as eternally pure from all humanity. Let Varro passe, that said, all that died were held gods infernall, (c) proouing it by the sacrifices done at all burialls, (d) there also he reckneth the (e) funerall plaies, as the greatest token of their diuini∣ty, plaies beeing neuer presented but to the gods. Hermes him-selfe (now men∣tioned) in his deploratiue presage, saying: Then that holy seate of Temples shall be∣come a sepulcher of dead bodies, doth plainly auerre, that the Egiptian gods were all dead men: for hauing said that his fathers in their exceeding errour, incredulity and neglect of religion, had found a meane to make gods; her evnto (saith he) they added a vertue out of some part of the worlds nature, and conioyning these two, because they could make no soules, they framed certaine Images, into which they called either Angells or deuills, and so by these misteries gaue those Idols power to hurt or helpe them.

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Then hee proceedes to examples. Thy (e) grandfather (Asclepius) saith he the first inuentor of Phisicke, hath a temple (f) on mount Lybia, neare the (g) Cracodile shore: there lyeth his worldly man, his body, but his residue or his whole (if man be whole life) is gone vp to heauen, helping all sicke persons now by his deity as hee did before by his Phisicke. Lo heare hee confesseth a dead man worrshipped for a god, there * 1.2 where his graue was: erring, and making others erre, in saying, that hee w•…•… as∣cended to heauen, and helpeth all sicke persons by his deity. Nay hee proceeds to an∣other. My grandfather (h) Hermes (saith hee) lying in the towne of (i) his Sur-name, doth hee not assist and preserue all that implore his helpe, This was Hermes the elder Mercury, buried (they say) in Hermopolis, the towne of his surname. Behold now, here are two men gods already, Aesculapius and Mercury (k) for the first, the opinion both of Greekes and Latines confirme it. But the (l) second many thinke was neuer mortall: yet hee saith here, that hee was his grandfather, for (m) this is one and that another though both haue one name. But this I stand not vpon: he and Aesculapius were both made gods of men, by this great testimony of his ne∣phew (n) Trismgiestus, who proceedes, and sayth (o) Isis, the wise of Osiris doth much good (wee see) being pleased, and being offended, much euill. And then to shew that these are of that kind of gods that men make by this art, hee giueth vs to vnder∣stand, that he thinkes those diuells to be soules of dead men, which he saith those erring, incredulous irreligious fellowes called by art into statues: because these could make no soules: & when he hath spoken that of Isis, being offended, much hurt, he addeth: for earthly and worldly gods are soone offended, and moued to anger by reason they consist (p) of men, in both their natures: Both their natures, (saith he) taking the deuill for the soule and the image for the body, wherevpon it came to passe (saith hee) that such and such creatures became holy in Egipt, and their soules were (q) adored in al the citties, that consecrated them in their liues, so far that they haue part of their worship assigned them, and are called by their names. Where is now that sad complaint that Egipt the seat of temples should become a graue for carcasses? see, the false spirit that made Hermes speake it, made him also confesse that it was already filled with their carcasses whome they held as gods. But in his complaint hee was but the vent of the deuills woe, because their eternall plagues were in preparing by the martyres holy memories, for in such places are they often tormented, and forced to confesse themselues, and to auoyde the bodies possessed.

L. VIVES.

AGainst. (a) Mountaines.] And such things as all men else could see and shunne. (b) Honor them.] A diuersity of reading: the old bookes haue the sentence shorter, but the sence is * 1.3 not altred at all. (c) Prouing it.] The Necia (saith Tully) or funerall sports, should not bee called feasts as well as the other gods holy daies are, but that men would haue their dead ancestors ac∣counted as gods, De leg. lib. 2. (d) Funerall.] Wherein were commedies acted. Terrences Adel∣phus was acted at Paulus Aemilius his funeralls. P. Corn. Scipio, and Q. Fabius (two of his sons) being Ediles. They had also sword-plaies: brought in by M. and D. Iunius Brutus, his sonnes at their fathers funeralls. App. Claud. Caudax, and M. Fuluius being Consulls. They fought in the beast market. Liu. lib. 11. Ualer. lib-2 Auson. in Gryph.

Tresprimas Thracum pugnas, trihus ordine sell•…•…s Iuniadae Patri inferias misere sepulcro.
Three chaires three fights, wherein the Thracians straue, Attended Iunius Brutus to his graue.

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They had also a banquetand a dole. (c) Grandfather (Asclepius).] Asclepius in greeke is Esculapius: to this Asclepius, Augustine makes the Phisition Aesculapius grand-father, which * 1.4 o•…•… •…•…lly his 〈◊〉〈◊〉. desculapii this was, I know not: one of them (they say) was thunderstrucke, and buried at Cynosura in Achaia, Another neare the riuer Lusius in Arcadia, the third was the second Mercuries brother, sonne to Ualens and Pheronis, and him the Arcadians haue in much honor. Tacitus saith Osiris was called Aesculapius: it may be this. It is liker that Hermes spea∣keth * 1.5 of him, then any other. (f) Mount Libia.] It runnes along from the lowest part of Egypt vn•…•… 〈◊〉〈◊〉. Ptolomy takes it for many mountaines, & calles it the Libian coast. (g) Crocodile] A serpent that laies eges, foure-footed, growing to seauenteene cubites lenght, or more: hee moueth his vpper chappe, and so doth no creature liuing besides him: deuoureth man and beast, and liues part in the water and part on the dry. land. Herodot. Arist, & Plin. Senec. saith that it feareth one couragious, and insulteth ouer one that feares it. The Crocodile citty is in the heart of Egipt neare to the Libian Mountaine not farre from Ptolemais, in the end of the sixt Paralel of the third climat. The Egiptians saith Porphyry worshipped a Crocodile, because he was con∣secrated to the Sunne as the Ram, the Buzzard and the blacke beetle. (h) Hermes.] Cicero rec∣kneth fiue of them, two the Egyptians worrshipped: the first Nilus his sonne, whome it was sa∣•…•…dgeto name: second hee that killed Argus, was Egypts king, taught them letters and * 1.6 lawes, him they call Theut, after their first moneth. Euseb. lib. 1. saith that the Phaenician theolo∣gians held Trismegistus to be Saturnes secretary, Caelus his sonnes, and that hee vsed his helpe in defending his mother, giuing him at his going into the South, all Egypt. Dionisius saith he was counsellor to Isis and Osiris: and Osiris going forth to warre, left him at home to di∣rect his wife Isis: that hee was of singular prudence, and taught the world much knowledge in artes and sciences. This (I thinke) was graund-father to this Hermes that wrot thus: and that hee was called Theut, the Daemon (as Plato saith in his Phaed.) that inuented Mathemati∣ques, letters, and dice, and taught them to •…•…hamus King of Egypt afterward called Hammon. (f) T•…•…e of his surmane.] Hermopolis, a great city in Epipt, A marke (saith Ptolomy) to those that trauell from the West of Nile vnto our sea: beyond Crocadilopolis. in the seauenth Para∣lell * 1.7 the therd climate. (k) For the first.] For hee is but held a semigod, diefied for his merits, as Hercules, Bacchus, and Romulus, were, Theodoretus saith that in Homers time he was held no God: for hee maketh Paeon cure Mars, not Aesculapius, And speaking of Machaon, he calles him the Sonne of Aesculapius an absolute Phisitian, (l) Second, many.] He is one of the perpe∣tuall Gods counsellours (m). This is one.] The famous Mercury was sonne to Ioue and Ma∣ia, Atlas his Grand-child, for there were two other as I said, Egyptians, and two more, one the Sonne of Calus and Dies, the other, of Ualens and Phoronis: the first they picture with Erec∣ted priuities for hauing beheld Proserpina: the later, the Laebadians worshippe in a caue, and cal him Trophonius. (n) Trismegistus,] As the French say trespuissant, and we, thrice mighty. But the latter wrot not Trismegistus, but his grand-father did: yet both were called Hermes Trisme∣gistus. * 1.8 The first, Theut, was a great king, a great Priest &, a Philosopher. Thus it pleaseth some to describe his greatnesse. (o) Isis.] Isis & Osiris do much good (saith Hermes his booke.) (p) In both their natures.] Hermes had it without nature: extra naturam. (q) Adored.] The Egyptians had in∣numerable things to their gods. Garlike and Onions, by which they swore as Pliny saith: and many creatures, after whome they named their citties, Crocodilopol•…•…s, Lycopolis, Leontopolls, and L•…•…polis. vpon the crocodyle, the wolfe, the lion and the place-fish: So Apis first instituting the adoration of the Oxe, was adored himselfe in an oxes shape, Mercury in a dogs, Isis in a cowes, Diodorus write•…•…h that their leaders wore such crests on their helmets, Anubis a dog, Alexander the great a wolfe. &c. whence the reuerence of those creatures first arose, and there∣vpon those Princes being dead, they ordained them diuine worships in those shapes. This is that which Mercury saith, their soules were adored that in their liues had ordayned honor to those creatures, as indeed the Princes wearing them on their helmes and sheelds, made them venerable, and respected: and the simple people thought that much of their victories came from them, and so set them vp as deities.

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