Ignatius his conclaue or his inthronisation in a late election in hell: wherein many things are mingled by way of satyr; concerning the disposition of Iesuits, the creation of a new hell, the establishing of a church in the moone. There is also added an apology for Iesuites. All dedicated to the two aduersary angels, which are protectors of the Papall Consistory, and of the Colledge of Sorbon. Translated out of Latine.

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Ignatius his conclaue or his inthronisation in a late election in hell: wherein many things are mingled by way of satyr; concerning the disposition of Iesuits, the creation of a new hell, the establishing of a church in the moone. There is also added an apology for Iesuites. All dedicated to the two aduersary angels, which are protectors of the Papall Consistory, and of the Colledge of Sorbon. Translated out of Latine.
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Donne, John, 1572-1631.
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"Ignatius his conclaue or his inthronisation in a late election in hell: wherein many things are mingled by way of satyr; concerning the disposition of Iesuits, the creation of a new hell, the establishing of a church in the moone. There is also added an apology for Iesuites. All dedicated to the two aduersary angels, which are protectors of the Papall Consistory, and of the Colledge of Sorbon. Translated out of Latine." In the digital collection Early English Books Online. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A20624.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed April 26, 2025.

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TO THE TWO Tutelar Angels, prote∣ctors of the Popes Consisto∣ry, and of the Colledge of Sorbon.

MOST noble couple of Angels, least it hould be sayd that you did neuer a∣gree, and neuer meet, but that you did euer ab∣horre one another, and euer

Resemble Ianus with a diuerseface,
I attempted to bring and ioyne you together once in these pa∣pers; not that I might compose your differences, for you haue

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not chosen me for Arbitrator; but, that you might beware of an enemy c̄omon to you both, I will relate what I saw. I was in an Extrasie, and

My little wandring sportful Soule, Ghest, and Companion of my body
had liberty to wander through all places, and to suruey and reckon all the roomes, and all the volumes of the heauens, and to comprehend the situation, the dimensions, the nature, the people, and the policy, both of the swimming Ilands, the Pla∣nets, and of all those which are fixed in the firmament. Of which, I thinke it an honester part as yet to be silent, then to do Galilaeo wrong by speaking * 1.1 of it, who of late hath summo∣ned the other worlds, the Stars to come neerer to him, and giue him an account of them∣selues.

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Or to Keppler, who (as * 1.2 himselfe testifies of himselfe) euer since Tycho Brachcs death, hath receiued it into his care, that no new thing should be done in hea∣uen without his knowledge. For by the law, Preuention must take place; and therefore what they haue found and discoured first, I am content they speake and vtter first. Yet this they may vouchsafe to take from me, that they shall hardly find Enoch, or Elias any where in their circuit. When I had surueid al the Hea∣uens, then as

The Larke by busie and laborious wayes, Hauing climb'd vp th'eternall hill, doth raise His Hymnes to Phoebus Harpe, And striking then His sailes, his wings, doth fall downe backeagen

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So suddenly, that one may saesely say A stone came lazily, that came that way,
In the twinckling of an eye, I saw all the roomes in Hell open to my sight. And by the bene∣fit of certaine spectacles, I know not of what making, but, I thinke, of the same, by which Gregory the great, and Bed did discerne so distinctly the soules of their friends, when they were discharged from their bodies, and sometimes the soules of such men as they knew not by sight, and of some that were ne∣uer in the world, and yet they could distinguish them flying into Heauen, or conusing with liuing men, I saw all the channels in the bowels of the Harth; and all the inhabitants of all nations, and of all ages were suddenly made familiar to

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me. I thinke truely, Robert * 1.3 Aquinas when he tooke Christs long Oration, as he hung vpon the Crosse, did vse some such instrument as this, but applied to the care: And so I thinke did * 1.4 he, which dedicated to Adrian 6, that Sermon which Christ made in prayse of his father Io∣seph: for else how did they heare that, which none but they euer heard? As for the Suburbs of Hel (I meane both Limbo and Purgatory) I must confesse I pas∣sed them ouer so negligently, that I saw them not: and I was hungerly caried, to find new places, neuer discouered before. For Purgatory did not seeme worthy to me of much dili∣gence, because it may seeme already to haue beene belecued by some persons, in some cor∣ners of the Romane Church, for

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about 50 yeares; that is, euer since the Councell of Trent had a minde to fulfill the prophe∣cies of Homer, Virgil, and the o∣ther Patriarkes of the Papists; and beeing not satisfied with making one Transubstantiation, purposed to bring in another: which is, to change fables into Articles of faith. Proceeding therefore to more inward pla∣ces, I saw a secret place, where there were not many, beside Lucifer himselfe; to which, one∣ly they had title, which had so attempted any innouation in this life, that they gaue an af∣front to all antiquitie, and indu∣ced doubts, and anxieties, and scruples, and after, a libertie of beleeuing what they would; at length established opinions, di∣rectly contrary to all establi∣shed before. Of which place in

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Hell, Lucifer affoarded vs here∣tofore * 1.5 some little knowledge, when more then 200 yeares since, in an Epistle written to the Cardinall S. Sexti, hee pro∣mised him a roome in his palace, in the remotest part of his eternall Chaos, which I take to bee this place. And here Pope Boniface 3, and Mahomet, seemed to contend about the highest roome. Hee gloried of hauing expelled an old Religion, and Mahomet of hauing brought in a new: each of them a great de∣luge to the world. But it is to be feared, that Mahomet will faile therein, both because hee attributed something to the old Testament, and because he vsed Sergius as his fellow-bishop, in making the Alcoran; whereas it was cuident to the supreme udge Lufer, (for how could

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he be ignorant of that, which himselfe had put into the Popes mind?) that Boniface had not onely neglected, but destroyed the policy of the State of Israel, established in the old Testament, when he prepared Popes a way, to tread vpon the neckes of Princes, but that he also ab∣stained from all Example and Coadiutor, when he took vpon him that newe Name, which Gregorie himselfe (a Pope nei∣ther very foolish, nor ouer∣modest) euer abhord. Besides that, euery day affords new Aduocates to Boniface his side. For since the Francis were almost worne out (of whome * 1.6 their General, Francis, had seene 6000 souldiers in one army, that is, in one chapter) which, because they were then but fresh souldiers, he saw assisted

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with 18000 Diuels, the Iesuits haue much recompenced those decayes and damages, who sometimes haue maintained in * 1.7 their Tents 200000 schollers. For though the Order of Bene∣dict haue euer bene so fruitfull, that they say of it, That all the * 1.8 new Orders, which in later times haue broken out, are but little springs, or drops, and that Order the Ocean, which hath sent out 52 Popes, 200 Cardinals, 1600 Arch∣bishops, 4000 Bishops, and 50000 Saints approued by the Church, and therefore it cannot be de∣nied, but that Beniface his part is much releeued by that Order; yet if they be compared to the Iesuits, or to the weake and vn∣perfect Types of them, the Franciscans, it is no great matter that they haue done. Though therefore they esteeme Maho∣met

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worthy of the name of an Innouator, & therein, perchance not much inferiour to Boniface, yet since his time, to ours, al∣most all which haue followed his sect, haue liued barren in an vnanimity, and idle concord, and cannot boast that they haue produced any new matter: whereas Boniface his successors, awakened by him, haue euer beene fruitfull in bringing forth new sinnes, and new par∣dons, and idolatries, and King∣killings. Though therefore it may religiously, and piously be beleeued, that Turkes, as well as Papists, come daily in troupes to the ordinary and common places of Hell; yet certainly to this more honourable roome, reserued for especiall Innoua∣tors, the Papists haue more fre∣quent accesse; and therefore

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Mahomet is out of hope to pre∣uaile, and must imitate the Chri∣stian Emperours, and be content to sit (as yet hee doth) at the Popes feet. Now to this place, not onely such endeauour to come, as haue innouated in matters, directly concerning the soule, but they also which haue done so, either in the Arts, or in conuersation, or in any thing which exerciseth the fa∣culties of the soule, and may so prouoke to quarrrelsome and brawling controuersies: For so the truth be lost, it is no matter how. But the gates are seldome opened, nor scarce oftner then once in an Age. But my desti∣ny fauored mce so much, that I was present then, and saw all the pretenders, and all that affe∣cted an entrance, and Lucifer himselfe, who then came out

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into the outward chamber, to heare them pleade their owne Causes. As soone as the doore creekt, I spied a certaine Ma∣thematician, which till then had bene busied to finde, to deride, to detrude Ptolomey; and now with an erect countenance, and setled pace, came to the gates, and with hands and feet (scarce respecting Lucifer himselfe) beat the dores, and cried;

Are these shut against me, to whom all the Heauens were euer open, who was a Soule to the Earth, and gaue it motion?

By this I knew it was Coper∣nicus: For though I had neuer heard ill of his life, and there∣fore might wonder to find him there; yet when I remembred, that the Papists haue extended the name, & the punishment of

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Heresie, almost to euery thing, and that as yet I vsed Gregortes * 1.9 and Bedes spectacles, by which one saw Origen, who deserued so well of the Christian Church, burning in Hell, I doubted no longer, but assured my selfe that it was Copernicus which I saw. To whome Lucifer sayd;

Who are you? For though euen by this boldnesse you seeme worthy to enter, and haue attempted a new facti∣on euen in Hell, yet you must first satisfie those which stand about you, and which ex∣pect the same fortune as you do. Except, O Lucifer, an∣swered Copernicus, I thought thee of the race of the starre Lucifer, with which I am so well acquainted, I should not vouchsafe thee this dis∣course. I am he, which pity∣ing

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thee who wert thrust into the Center of the world, ray∣sed both thee, and thy pri∣son, the Earth, vp into the Heauens; so as by my meanes God doth not enioy his re∣uenge vpon thee. The Sunne, which was an officious spy, and a betrayer of faults, and so thine enemy, I haue ap∣pointed to go into the lowest part of the world. Shall these gates be open to such as haue innouated in small matters? and shall they be shut against me, who haue turned the whole frame of the world, and am thereby almost a new Creator?
More then this he spoke not. Lucifer stuck 〈◊〉〈◊〉 meditation. For what should he do? It seemed vniust to deny entry to him which had deser∣ued so well, and dangerous to

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graunt it, to one of so great am∣bitions, and vndertakings: nor did he thinke that himselfe had attempted greater matters be∣fore his fall. Something he had which he might haue conueni∣ently opposed, but he was loath to vtter it, least he should con∣fesse his feare. But Ignatius Layola which was got neere his chaire, a subtile fellow, and so indued with the Diuell, that he was able to tempt, and not onely that, but (as they say) e∣uen to possesse the Diuell, ap∣prehended this perplexity in Lucifer. And making himselfe sure of his owne entrance, and knowing well, that many thou∣snds of his family aspired to that place, he opposed himselfe against all others. He was con∣tent they should bee damned, but not that they should go∣uerne.

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And though when hee died he was vtterly ignorant in all great learning, and knew not so much as Ptolomeys, or Copernicus name, but might haue beene perswaded, that the words Almagest, Zenith, and Nadir, were Saints names, and fit to bee put into the Lita∣nie, and Orapro nobis ioyned to them; yet after hee had spent some time in hell, he had learnt somewhat of his Iesuites, which daily came thither. And whilst he staied at the threshold of Hell; that is, from the time when he deliuered himselfe o∣uer to the Popes will, hee tooke a little taste of learning. Thus furnished, thus hee vndertakes Copernious.

DO, you thinke to winne our Lucifer to your part, by allowing him the honour of being of the race

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of that starre? who was not onely made before all the starres, but being glutted with the glory of shining there, transferred his dwel∣ling and Colonies 〈◊〉〈◊〉 this Monarchy, and thereby 〈◊〉〈◊〉 our Order a noble example, to spy, to inuade, and to 〈◊〉〈◊〉 forraine kingdom Can our Lucifer, or his 〈◊〉〈◊〉 haue any honour 〈◊〉〈◊〉 that starr Lucifer, which is but Venus? whose face how much wee scorne, appeares by this, that, for the mst part we vse her auersly and prepo∣sterously. Rather letour Lu∣cifer glory in Lucifer the Ca∣laritan Bishop; not therefore because he is placed amongst Heretiques, onely for affir∣ming * 1.10 the propagation of the soule; but especially for this,

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that he was the first that op∣posed the dignity of Princes, and imprinted the names of Antichrist, ludas, and other stigmatique markes vpon the Emperour; But for you, what new thing hane you inuented, by which our Lu∣cifer gets any thing? What cares hee whether the earth traueil, or stand still? Hath your raising vp of the earth into heauen, brought men to that confidence, that they build new towers or threaten God againe? Or do they out of thismotion of the earth cō∣clude, that there is no hell, or deny the punishment of sin? Do not men beleeue? do they not liue iust, as they did be∣fore? Besides, this detracts frō the dignity of your learning, and derogates frō your right

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and title of comming to this place, that those opinions of yours may very well be true. If therfore any man haue ho∣nour or title to this place in this matter, it belongs whol∣ly to our Clauius, who oppo∣sed himselfe opportunely a∣gainst you, and the truth, which at that time was cree∣ping into euery mans minde. Hee onely can be called the Author of all contentions, and schoole-combats in this cause; and no greater profit can bee hoped for heerein, but that for such brabbles, more necessarie matters bee neglected. And yet not onely for this is our Clauius to bee honoured, but for the great paines also which hee tooke in the Gregorian Calender, by which both the peace of the

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Church, & Ciuill businesses haue beene egregiously trou∣bled: nor hath heauen it selfe escaped his violēce, but hath euer since obeied his apoint∣ments: * 1.11 so that S. Stephen, Iohn Baptist, & all the rest, which haue bin cōmanded to worke miracles at certain appointed daies, where their Reliques are preserued, do not now at∣tend till the day come, as they were accustomed, but are a∣waked ten daies sooner, and constrained by him to come downe frō heauen to do that businesse; But your inuentiōs can scarce bee called yours, since long before you, Hera∣clides, Ecphantus, & Aristarchus thrust them into the world: who notwithstanding con∣tent themselues with lower roomes amongst the other

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Philosophers, & aspire not to this place, reserued onely for Antichristian Heroes: neither do you agree so wel amongst yourselues, as that you can be said to haue made a Sect, since, as you haue peruerted and changed the order and Scheme of others: so Tycho Brachy hath done by yours, and others by his. Let there∣fore this little Mathematitian (dread Emperour) withdraw himselfe to his owne compa∣ny. And if heereafter the fa∣thers of our Order can draw a Cathedrall Decree from the Pope, by which it may be de∣fined as a matter of faith: That the earth doth not moue; & an Antahema inflicted vpon all which hold the contrary: thē perchance both the Pope which shall decree that, and

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Copernicus his followers, (if they be Papists) may haue the dignity of this place.
Lucifer signified his assent; and Coper∣nicus, without muttering a word, was as quiet, as he thinks the sunne, when he which stood next him, entred into his place. To whom Lucifer said: And who are you? Hee answered,
Philippus Aureolus Theophra∣stus Paracelsus Bombast of Ho∣henheim.
At this Lucifer trēbled, as if it were a new Exorcisme, & he thought it might well be the first verse of Saint Iohn, which is alwaics imployed in Exor∣cismes, and might now bee ta∣ken out of the Welsh, or Irish Bibles. But when hee vnder∣stood that it was but the webbe of his name, hee recollected himselfe, and raising himselfe vprig 〈◊〉〈◊〉, asked
what he had

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to say to the great Emperour Sathan, Lucifer, Belzebub, Le∣uiathan, Abaddon. Paracelsus replyed, It were an iniurie to thee, ô glorious Emperour, if I should deliuer before thee, what I haue done, as though al those things had not procee∣ded from thee, which seemed to haue bin done by me, thy organe and conduit: yet since I shal rather be thy trumpet herein,' then mine own, some things may be vttered by me. Besides therfore that I broght all Methodicall Phisitians, and the art it selfe into so much contēpt, that that kind of phi∣sick is almost lost; This also was euer my prīcipal purpose, that no certaine new Art, nor fixed rules might be establish∣ed, but that al remedies might be dangerously drawne from

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my vncertaine, ragged, and vnperfect experiments, in tri∣all whereof, how many men haue beene made carkases? And falling vpon those times which did abound with para∣doxicall, & vnusuall diseases, of all which, the pox, which then began to rage, was al∣most the center and sinke; I euer professed an assured and an easy cure thereof, least I should deterre any from their licentiousnesse. And whereas almost all poysons are so disposed and condi∣tioned by nature, that they offend some of the senses, and so are easily discerned and a∣uoided, I brought it to passe, that that trecherous quality of theirs might bee remoued, and so they might safely bee giuen without suspicion, and

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yet performe their office as strongly. All this I must con∣fesse, I wrought by thy mine∣rals and by thy fires, but yet I cannot dispaire of my re∣ward, because I was thy first Minister and instrument, in these innouatiōs.
By this time Ignatius had obserued a tempest risen in Lucifers countenance: for he was iust of the same tem∣per as Lucifer, and therefore suffered with him in euery thing, and felt al his alterations. That therefore he might deliuer him from `Paracelsus, hee said;
You must not thinke sir, that you may heere draw out an oration to the proportion of your name; It must be con∣fessed, that you attempted great matters, and well be∣comming a great officer of Lucifer, when you vndertook

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not onely to make a man, in your Alimbicks, but also to preserue him immortall. And it cannot be doubted, but that out of your Commentaries vp∣on the Scriptures, in which you were vtterly ignorant, many men haue taken occa∣sion of erring, and thereby this kingdome much indebt∣ed to you. But must you therefore haue accesse to this secret place? what haue you compassed, euen in Phisicke it selfe, of which wee lesuits are ignorant? For though our Ribadenegra haue reckoned none of our Order, which hath written in Physicke, yet 〈◊〉〈◊〉 able and sufficient wee are in that faculty, I will bee * 1.12 tryed by that Pope, who hath giuen a priueledge to Iesu∣ites to practise Phisicke, and to

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be present at Death-beds, a 1.13 which is denyed to other Or∣ders: for why should hee deny vs their bodies, whose soules he deliuers to vs? and since he hath transferd vpon vs the power to practise Physick, he may instly be thought to haue transferd vpon vs the Art it selfe, by the same omnipotent Bul; since hee which graunts the end, is by our Rules of law presumed to haue graun∣ted all meanes necessary to that end. Let me (dread Em∣perour,) haue leaue to speake truth before thee; These men abuse & prophane too much thy mettals, which are the bowels, and treasure of thy kingdome: For what doth Physicke profit thee? Physicke * 1.14 is a sost, & womanish thing. For since no medicine doth natu∣rally

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draw bloud, that science is not fit nor worthy of our study, Besides why should those things, which belong to you, bee employed to pre∣serue frō deiseases, or to pro∣cure long life? were it not fit∣ter, that your brother, and col∣league, the Bishop of Rome, which gouernes vpon the face of your earth, and giues day∣ly increase to your kingdome, should receiue from these helps and subsidies? To him belonges all the Gold, to him all the pretious stones, con∣ceal'd in your entrailes, wher∣by hee might baite and en∣snare the Prince; of the earth through their Lord, and counsellours meanes to his o∣bedience, and to receiue his cōmandements, especially in these times, whē almost euery

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where his auncient rights & tributes are denied vnto him. To him belongs your Iron, and the ignobler mettals, to make engines; To him be∣long your Minerals apt for poyson; To him, the Salt∣peter, and all the Elements of Gun-powder, by which he may demolish and ouerthrow Kings and Kingdomes, and Courts, and seates of Iustice. Neither doth Paracelsus truly deserue the name of an Inno∣uator, whose doctrine, Seue∣rïnus and his other followers do referre to the most anci∣ent times. Thinke therefore your selfe well satisfied, if you be admitted to gouerne in chiefe that Legion of ho∣micide-Phisitians, and of Princes which shall be made away by poyson in the midst

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of their sins, and of woemen tempting by paintings and face-phisicke. Of all which sorts great numbers will dai∣ly come hither out of your Academy.

Content with this sentence, Paracelsus departed; and Ma∣chiauel succeeded, who hauing obserued Ignatius his forward∣nesse, and saucinesse, and how, vncal'd, he had thrust himselfe into the office of kings Atturney, thought this stupid patience of Copernicus, and Paracelsus (men which tasted too much of their Germany) vnfit for a Florentine: and therefore had prouided some venemous darts, out of his Italian Arsenal, to cast a∣gainst this worne souldier of Pampel, this French-spanish mungrell, Ignatius. But when he thought better vpon it, and

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obserued that Lucifer euer ap∣proued whatsoeuer Ignatius sayd, he suddenly changed his purpose; and putting on ano∣ther resolution, he determined to direct his speech to Ignatius, as to the principall person next to Lucifer, as well by this meanes to sweeten and mollifie him, as to make Lucifer suspect, that by these honors, & specious titles offered to Ignatius, and enter∣tained by him, his owne dignity might bee eclipsed, or clouded; and that Ignatius by winning to his side, politique men, exerci∣sed in ciuill businesses, might attempt some innouation in that kingdome. Thus therefore he began to speake.

Dtead Em∣perour, and you, his watchfull and diligent Genius, father Ig∣natius, Arch-chancellor of this Court, and highest Priest of

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this highest Synagogue (except the primacy of the Romane Church reach also vnto this place) let me before I descend to my selfe, a little consider, speake, and admire your stu∣pendious wisedome, and the gouernment of this state. You may vouchsafe to re∣member (great Emperour) how long after the Nazarens death, you were forced to liue a solitarie, a barren, and an Eremiticall life: till at last (as it was euer your fashion to imitate heauen) out of your aboundant loue, you begot this deerely beloued sonne of yours, Ignatius, which stands at your right hand. And from both of you proceedes a spirit, whom you haue sent into the world, who triumphing both with

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Mitre and Crowne, gouernes your Militant Church there. As for those sonnes of Igna∣tius, whō either he left aliue, or were borne after his death, and your spirit, the Bishop of Rome; how iustly & properly may they be called Equiocal men? And not only Equiuocall in that sence, in which the Popes Legates, at your Nicene Coūcel were called Equiuocal, because they did agree in all their opinions, and in all their words: but especially because they haue brought into the world a new art of Equiuoca∣tion. O wonderfull, and incre∣dible Hypercritiques, who, not out of marble fragments, but out of the secretest Records of Hell it selfe: that is, out of the minds of Lucifer, the `Pope, and Ignatius, (persons

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truly equiuocall) haue raised to life againe the language of the Tower of Babel, 〈◊〉〈◊〉 long concealed, and brought vs againe frō vnderstanding one an other. For my part (〈◊〉〈◊〉 noble paire of Emperours) that I may freely cōfesse the truth all which I haue done, where soeuer there shall be men∣tion made of the Iesuites, can be reputed but childish; 〈◊〉〈◊〉 this honor I hope will not 〈◊〉〈◊〉 denied me, that I brought 〈◊〉〈◊〉 an Alphabet, & prouided cer∣taine Elements, & was som kind of school maister in pre∣paring them a way to highe 〈◊〉〈◊〉; yet it grieu me, and makes me ashamed that I should be ranked wit this idle and Chymaeri Copernicus, or this cadauero vulture, Paracelsus. I scor

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that those gates, into which such men could conceiue a∣ny hope of entrance, should not voluntarily flie open to mee: yet I can better en∣dure the rashnesse and fel∣lowship of Paracelsus, then the other: because hee ha∣uing beene conueniently practised in the butcheries, and mangling of men, hee had the reason to hope for fauour of the Iesuites: For I my selfe went alwaies that way of bloud, and there∣fore I did euer preferre the sacrifices of the Gentiles, and of the Iewes, which were per∣formed with effusion of bloud (whereby not only the people, but the Priests al∣so were animated to bold en∣terprises) befote the soft and wanto sacrifices of Christians.

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If I might haue had my choyce, I should rather haue wished, that the Romane Church had taken the Bread, then the Wine, from the peo∣ple, since in the wine there is some colour, to imagine and represent blood. Neither did you, (most Reuerend Bi∣shop of this Dioces, Ignatius) abhorre from this way of blood. For hauing consecra∣ted your first age to the wars, and growne somewhat vna∣ble to follow that course, by reason of a wound; you did presently begin to thinke se∣riously of a spirituall warre, against the Church, and found meanes to open waies, euer into Kings chambers, for your executioners. Which dignitie, you did not reserue onely to your own Order, but

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(though I must confesse, that the foundation, and the nourishment of this Do∣ctrine remaines with you, and is peculiar to you, out of your infinite liberalitie,) you haue vouchsafed some∣time, to vse the hands of o∣ther men in these imploi∣ments. And therefore as well they, who haue so often in 〈◊〉〈◊〉 〈◊〉〈◊〉 it in England, as they which haue brought their great purposes to effect in Fraunce, are indebted only to you for their courage and resolution. But yet although the entrance into this place may be decreed to none, but to Innouators, and to onely such of them as haue dealt in Christian businesse; and of thē also, to those only which haue had the fortune to doe

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much harme, I cannot see but that next to the Iesuites, I must bee inuited to enter, since I did not onely teach those wayes, by which, tho∣rough perfidiousnesse and dis∣sembling of Religion, a 〈◊〉〈◊〉 might possesse, and vsurp vpon the liberty of free Com∣monwealths; but also 〈◊〉〈◊〉 arme and furnish the people with my 〈1 line〉〈1 line〉 when they were nder 〈◊〉〈◊〉 oppression, they might 〈◊〉〈◊〉 est conspire, and 〈◊〉〈◊〉 tyrant, or reuenge them 〈◊〉〈◊〉 of their Prince, and redeem their former losses; so tha from both sides, both from Prince and People, I brough an aboundant harest, and noble encrease to this kingdome.
By this time I 〈◊〉〈◊〉 〈◊〉〈◊〉 Lucifer to bee muc

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moued with this Oration, and to incline much towards Ma∣chiauel. For he did acknowledge him to bee a kind of Patriarke, of those whom they call Lay∣men. And he had long obserued, that the Clergie of Rome 〈◊〉〈◊〉 downe to Hell daily, easi∣ly, voluntarily, and by troupes, because they were accustomed to sinne against their consc∣ience, and knowledge; but that the Layitte sinning out of a 〈◊〉〈◊〉 〈◊〉〈◊〉, and negligence of 〈◊〉〈◊〉 the truth, did rather offend by ignorance, and 〈◊〉〈◊〉. And therefore he thought himselfe bound to reward Ma∣chiauel, which had awakened 〈◊〉〈◊〉 drowsie and implicite Lay∣ to greater, and more bloody ndertakings. Besides this, 〈◊〉〈◊〉 Ignatius could not bee enied the place, whose ambiti∣ons

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and turbulencies Lucifer vnderstood very wel, he thought Machiauel a fit and necessarie instrument to oppose against him; that so the skales beeing kept euen by their factions, hee might gouerne in peace, and two poysons mingled might doe no harme. But hee could not hide this intention from Ig∣natius, more subtil then the De∣ill, and the verier Lucifer of the two: Therefore Ignatius rushed out, threw himselfe downe at Lucifers feet, and groueling on the ground adored him. Yet certainly, Vasques would not 〈◊〉〈◊〉 this idolatry, because in the shape of the 〈◊〉〈◊〉 hee worshipped him, whom hee accounted the true God. Here Ignatius cried and thundred out,

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That had that powder taken fire, by which All the 〈◊〉〈◊〉 of Britaine had flowne to the Moone, It had not equalled this noise and horror.
And when he was able to speak distinctly, thus hee spoke.
It cannot be said (vnspeakable Emperour) how much this obscure Florentine hath trans∣gressed against thee, and a∣gainst the Popo thy image-bea∣rer, * 1.15 (whether the word bee accepted, as Gratian takes it, when he calles the Scriptures, * 1.16 Imaginarie Bookes; or as they take it, which giue that style to them who carrie * 1.17 the Emperours image in the field;) and last of all against our Order. Durst any man before him, thinke vpon this kinde of iniurie, and calum∣nie,

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as to hope that he should be able to flatter, to catch, to entrap 〈◊〉〈◊〉 himselfe? Cer∣tainely, whosoeuer flatters a∣ny man, and presents him those praises, which in his owne opinion are not due to him, thinkes him inferiour to himselfe and makes account, that he hath taken him priso∣ner, and triumphs ouer him. Who euer flatters, either he derides, or (at the best) in∣structs. For there may bee, e∣uen in flattery, an honest kind of teaching, if Princes, by be∣ing told that they are already induced with all vertues neces∣sary for their functions, 〈◊〉〈◊〉 thereby taught what thos vertues are, and by a facile ex∣hortatiō, excited to endeauo to gaine them. But was it 〈◊〉〈◊〉 that this fellow, should dar

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eitherto deride you, or (which is the greater iniury) to teach you? Can it be beleeued, that he delivers your praises from his heart, and doth not rather * 1.18 herein follow Gratians leuity; who saies, That you are called Prince of the world, as a king at Chests, or as the Cardinall of Ra∣uenna, onely by derision? This man, whilst he liued, attribu∣ted so much to his own wit, that hee neuer thought him∣selfe beholden to your helps, and insinuations; and was so farre from inuoking you, or sacrificing to you, that he did not so much as acknowledge your kingdome, nor beleeue that there was any such thing in nature, as you. I must con∣fesse, that hee had the same opinion of God also, and therefore deserues a place

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here, and a better then any of the Pagan or genle idola∣ters: for, in euery idolatrie, and false worship, there is some Religion, and some peruerse simplicitie, which tastes of humilitie; from all which, this man was very free, when in his heart he vt∣terly denyed that there was any God. Yet since he thought so in earnest, and beleeued that those things which hee affirmed were true, hee must not be rancked with them, which hauing beene sufficiently instructed of the true God, and beloueing him to be so, doe yet fight against him in his enemies armie. Neither ought it to be impu∣ted to vs as a fault, that some∣times in our exorcismes wee speake ill of you, and call

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you Hereticke, and Drunkard, * 1.19 and Whisperer, and scabbed Beast, and Coniure the elements that they should not receiue you, and threaten you with Indis∣soluble Damnation, and tor∣ments a thousand thousand times worse then you suffer yet. For these things you know, are done out of a secret coue∣nant and contract betweene vs, & out of Mysteries, which must not bee opened to this Neophite, who in our Syna∣gogue is yet but amongst the Cathecumeni. Which also we acknowledge of Holy Water, and our Agnas Dei, of which you doe so wisely dissemble a feare, when they are pre∣sented to you: For certainly, if there were any true force in them, to deliuer Bodies from Diseases, soules from sinnes,

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and the Elements from Spi∣rits, and malignant impres∣sions, (as in the verses which Vrban the fist sent with his * 1.20 Agnus Dei to the Emperour it is pretended.) It had beene reason, that they should first haue exercised their force vpon those verses, and so haue purged and deliuered them, if not from Heresie, yet from Barbarousnesse, and solecismes; that Heretiques might not iustly say, there was no truth in any of them, but onely the last; which is, That the least peece which thēce doth fall, Will doe one as much good as all. And though our Order haue aduentured further in 〈◊〉〈◊〉 then the rest, yet that must be attributed to a speci∣all

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priuiledge, by which wee haue leaue to question any possessed person, of what mat∣ters we will; wheras all other Orders are miserably bound to the present matter, and the businesse then in hand. For, though I do not beleeue, that either from your selfe, or 〈◊〉〈◊〉 your 〈◊〉〈◊〉 the Pope, any such priuiledge is issued; yet our Cotton deserues to be praised, who being questioned, how he durst propose certaine se∣ditious Interrogatories to a possessed person, to deliuer himselfe, 〈◊〉〈◊〉 such a priui∣ledge; and with an vn-heard∣of boldnesse, and a new kind of falsifying, did (in a man∣ner) counterfeit Lucifers hand and seale, since none but he onely could giue this pri∣uiledge: But, if you con∣sider

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vs out of this liberty in Exorcismes, how humble and seruile we are towards you, the Relations of Peru testisie inough, where it is recorded, that when one of your angels at midnight appeared to our * 1.21 Bareena alone in his cham∣ber, hee presently rose out of his chaire, and gaue him the place, whom he professed to bee farre worthier thereof, then he was. But to proceed now to the iniuries, which this fellow hath done to the Bishop of Rome, although very much might be spoken, yet by this alone, his disposi∣tion may bee sufficiently dis∣cerned, that hee imputes to the Pope, vulgar and popu∣lar sinnes, farre vnworthy of his greatnesse. Weake praising, is a kind of Accu∣sing,

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and wee detract from a mans honour, if when wee praise him for small things, and would 〈◊〉〈◊〉 to haue said all, we conceale greater. Per∣chāce this man had seen some of the Catalogues of Refer Cases, which euery yeare the Popes encrease, and he might thinke, that the Popes did therefore reserue these sinnes to themselves, that they only might commit them. But ei∣ther hee is ignorant, or iniu∣rious to them. For, can they bee thought to haue taken a∣way the libertie of sinning from the people, who do not onely suffer men to keepe * 1.22 Concubines, but sometimes doe commaund them? who make S. Peter beholden to the stewes, for part of his reuenue: and who excuse women from

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the infamous name of whore, till they haue deliuered thē∣selues * 1.23 ouer to 23000 men. The Professors of which Re∣ligion * 1.24 teach, that Vniuersitie men, which keep whores in their chambers, may not be expeld for that, because it ought to be pre∣sumed before hand, that schollers will not lie without them. Shal he be thought to haue a pur∣pose of deterring others frō sinne, which prouides so well for their security, that he tea∣ches, * 1.25 that he may dispense in all the commaundements of the se∣cond Table, & in all moral law, and that those commandements of the second table can neither be called Principles, nor Conclusi∣ons, necessarily deduced frō Prin∣ciples? And therefore, (as they euer loue that manner of tea∣ching) hee did illustrate his

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Rule with an Example, & dis∣pensed in a mariage between Brother and Sister, and hath hoorded vp so many Indulgē∣cies in one barne, the citie of Rome, that it is easie for any man in an houre, or two, to draw out Pardons inough for 100000 yeares. How cleare a witnesse of this liberality is Leo 10? who only for rehear∣sing once the Lords praier, and thrise repeating the name of Icsu (bee it spoken heere without horrour) hath giuen 3000 yeares indulg. How profuse a Steward or Auditor was Boniface, who acknow∣ledges so many Indulgences to be in that one Church of Late∣ran, that none but God can nūber them? Besides these, plenary Indulgences are giuen, not only to the Franciscans them∣selues, but to their Parents

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also: and to any which dies in their habit; and to any which desire that they may do so; and to those who are wrapped in it after death, though they did not desire it; and fiue yeares Indul∣gence to those who doe but kisse it. And at last, Clement 7. by a priuiledge first giuen to one Order, (which since is communicated to our Order, as the priuiledge of all other Orders are) gaue to any who should but visite a place be∣longing to them, or any o∣ther place, if hee could not come thither: or if he could come to no such place, yet if he had but a desire to it, All indulgences which had beene graunted, or heereafter should be graunted in the universal world. And though it be true, that if

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in any of these Indulgences a certaine sum of money were limited to bee giuen (as for the most part it is;) a poore man, which could not giue that money, though he were neuer so contrite for his sins, could haue no benefit there∣by: and though Gerson durst call those Indulgences foolish, and superstitious, which gaue 20000. yeares pardon for rehearsing one praier, yet they do aboundantly testifie the Popes liberall disposition, and that he is not so couetous in reseruing sinnes to him∣selfe; But if perchance once in an hundred yeares, some one of the 〈◊〉〈◊〉 of the peo∣ple be put to death for Sodo∣my; and that, not so much for the offence, as for vsurping the right of the Ecclesiastique

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Princes, wee must not much lament nor grudge at that, since it is onely done to dis∣continue, and interrupt a praescription, to gaine which Title, the Layety hath euer beene very forward against the Clergie: for euen in this kinde of his delicacies, the Pope is not so reserued and couetous, but that he allowes a taste thereof to his Cardi∣nals, whom you once called Carpidineros, (by an elegancy * 1.26 proper onely to your Secrita∣ries, the Monkes) in an Epistle which you writ to one of * 1.27 that Colledge: For since, the Cardinals are so compacted into the Pope and so made his owne body: That it is * 1.28 not lawfull for them, without licence first obtained from him, to be let bloud in a Feuer, what

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may be denied vnto them? Or what kind of sin is likely to be left out of their glorious pri∣uiledges, which are at least 200? Which Order the Pope can * 1.29 no more remove out of the Eccle∣siastique Hierarchy, then hee can Bishops; both because Car∣dinals were instituted by God, and because the Apostles them∣selves were Cardinals before they were Bishops. Whom also in their creation he stiles his bro∣thers, * 1.30 and Princes of the world, & Co-iudges of the whole earth: and to 〈◊〉〈◊〉 all: That there are so many Kings as there are Cardinals. O fearefull body; and as in many other things, so in this especialy mōstrous, that they are not able to pro∣pagate their species: For all * 1.31 the Cardinals in a vacacy are not able to make one Cardinal more.

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To these men certainly the Pope doth no more grudge the plurality of sins, then he doth of Bonafices. And he hath beene content, that euen Bor∣gia shoud enioy this dignity, if hee hath heaped vp, by his ingenious wickednesse, more sorts of sins in one Act, then (as far as I know) as any the Popes thē selues haue attemp∣ted: For he did not only giue the full reine to his licenti∣ousnesse, but raging with a second ambition, hee would also change the Sex. Therein also his stomacke was not towardes young beardlesse boyes, nor such greene fruit: for hee did not thinke, that hee went farre inough from the right Sex, except hee had a manly, a reuerend, and a bearded Venus. Neither

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staied he there; but his witty lust proceeded further: yet he sollicited not the Minions of the Popes; but striuing to equall the licentiousnesse of Sodomits, which would haue had the Angels; to come as neare them as hee could, hee tooke a Cleargy-man, one of the portion and lot of the Lord: and so made the maker of God, a Priest subiect to his lust; nor did hee seeke him out in a Cloyster, or Quire; but that his Venus might bee the more monstrous, hee would haue her in a Mitre. And yet his prodigious lust was not at the height; as much as hee could he added: and hauing found a 〈◊〉〈◊〉, a Cleargy-man, a Bishop, he did not sollicite him with entrea∣ties, & rewards, but rauished

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him by force. Since then the Popes doe, out of the fulnesse of their power, come to those kindes of sinne, which haue neither Example nor Name, in somuch that Pope Paulus * 1.32 Venetus, which vsed to paint himselfe, & desired to seeme a woman, was called the God∣desse Cibele (which was not without mysterie, since, pro∣stitute boyes are sacred to that Goddesse,) and since they do not graunt ordinarily that liberty of practising sinnes, till they haue vsed their owne right and priuiledge of Preuention and Anticipation, This pratling fellow Ma∣chiauel doth but treache∣rously, and dishonestly pre∣uaricate, and betraie the cause, if hee thinke hee hath done inough for the

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dignity of the Popes, when he hath affoorded to them sins common to all the world. The transferring of Empires, rhe ruine of Kingdomes, the Excommunications, and de∣positions of Kings, & deua∣stations by fire and sword, should haue bene produced as their marks & characters: for though the examples of the Popes trāsferring the Em∣pire, which our men so much stand vpon, bee not indeede true, nor that the anciēt Popes practised any such thing; yet since the states-men of our Order, wiser thē the rest, haue found how much this Tempo∣ral iurisdictio ouer Princes, cō∣duces to the growth of the Church, they haue perswaded the Popes, that this is not on∣ly lawfull for them, but often

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practised heeretofore: And therefore they prouide, that the Canons and Histories bec * 1.33 detorted to that opinion for though one of our Order doe weaken that famous Canon, Nos sanctorum, which was vsed still to bee produced for this doctrine, yet hee did it then, when the King of Great 〈◊〉〈◊〉 was to bee mollisied and sweetned towardes vs, and the lawes to bee mitiga∣ted, and when himselfe had put on the name Eudamon. But let him returne to his true state, and professe him∣selfe a Cacodmon, & he will bee of our opinion. In which respect also wee may pardon our Cudsemi his rashnesse, whē he denies the English na∣tiō * 1.34 to be heratiques, because they remain in a perpetuall succession

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of Bishops: For herein these men haue thought it fit, to follow, in their practise, that Translation, which reades the * 1.35 words of Paul: Serue the time, and not that which saies: Serue the Lord. As for the in∣iury which this petty compa∣nion hath offered to our Or∣der, since in our wrongs, both yours, and the Popes Maiesty is wounded; since to vs, as to your Dictators, both you haue giuen that large and auncient Commission: That wee should take care that the state take no harme, we can∣not doubt of our reuenge: yet this aboue all the rest, doth especially vexe me, that when he calls me Pelate, and Bishop, (names which wee so much abhorre and detest) I know well, that out of his

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inward malignity, hee hath a relation to Bellarmines, and Tolets sacrilegious Vow∣breaking ambitiōs, by which they imbraced the Cardinal∣ship, and other Church-digni∣ties: but heerein this poore fellow, vnacquainted with our affaires, is deceiued, be∣ing ignorant, that these men, by this act of beeing thus in∣corporated into the Pope are so much the neerer to their Center and finall happinesse, this chamber of Lucifer, and that by the breach of a vow, which thē selues thought iust, they haue got a new title therunto: For the Cardinalship is our Martyrdome: & though not many of our Order, haue had that strength, that they haue beene such Martyrs, and that the Popes them∣selues

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haue beene pleased to transferre this persecutiō into the other Orders, who haue had more Cardinals then wee; yet without doubt, for such of ours which haue had so much courage, new Crownes, and new Garlands, appropriate to our Martyrs, are prepared for them in this their Heauen; because, being inabled by greater meanes, they are fit∣ter for greater mischiefes. Wee therefore lament the * 1.36 weaknesse of our Laynez, & our Brgia, who refused the Cardinalship offered by Paulus 4. & Iulius 3; (for in this place and this meeting it is vnfit to say they did so) euen amongst the auncient Romans, when * 1.37 they sacrificed to you those sacrifices, which offered any resistance, were euer reputed

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vnaccepted: And therefore our Bellarmine deserues much praise, who finding a new Ge∣nius and courage in his new Cardinalship, set out his Retra∣ctations, & corrected all those places in his workes, which might any way bee interpre∣ted in the fauour of Princes. But let vs passe ouer all these things: for wee vnderstand one 〈◊〉〈◊〉 well inough; and let vs more particularly con∣sider those things, which this man, who pretends to ex∣ceed all Auncient and Mo∣derne States-men, boasts to haue beene done by him. Though truly no man will easily beleeue, that hee hath gone sarr in any thing, which did so tire at the beginning, or mid-way, that hauing seene the Pope, and knowne him,

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yet could neuer come to the knowledge of the Diuell. I know what his excuse and e∣scape wil be: that things must not be extended insinitly; that wee must consist and arrest somewhere, and that more meanes & instruments ought not to be admitted, where the matter may be dispatched by fewer. When therfore he was sure that the Bishop of Rome was the cause of all mis∣chiefe, and the first mouer therof, he chose rather to set∣tle & determine in him, then by acknowledging a Diel to induce a new tyrany, and to be driuen to confesse, that the Pope had vsurped vpon the di∣uels right, which opinion, if a∣ny man bee pleased to main∣taine, we do not forbid him but yet it must be an argumēt

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to vs of no very nimble wit, if a man do so admire the Pope, that he leaue out the Diuell, and so worship the Image, without relation to the Proto∣tipe and first patterne. But be∣sides this, how idle, and how very nothings they are, which he hath shoueld together in his bookes, this makes it ma∣nifest, that some of euery Re∣ligion, and of euery profession, haue risen vp against him, and no man attempted to defend him: neither doe I say this, be∣cause I thinke his doctrine the worse for that, but it is therefore the lesse artificially crried, and the lesse able to worke those endes to which it is directed. For our parts wee haue not pro∣ceeded so: For wee haue dished & dressed our precepts

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in these affaired, with such cunning, that when our owne men produce them to ensnare and establish our puples, then we put vpon them the maie∣sty and reuerence of the Do∣ctrine of the Church, and of the common opinion: But when our aduersaries alleadge thē, either to cast enuy vpon vs, or to deterre the weaker sort, then they are content with a lower roome, and vouchsafe to step aside into the ranck of priuate 〈◊〉〈◊〉 〈◊〉〈◊〉. And the Canons themselues are with vs some∣times glorious, in their mitres & pontificall habits, & sound nothing but meere Diuine re∣solutions out of the Chaire it selfe, and so haue the sorce of Oracles; somtimes we say they are ragged & lame, & do but whisper with a doubtfull and

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vncertaine murmure, a hol∣low cloistral, or an eremitical voice, & so haue no more au∣thority, then those poore men which writ them: sometimes we say they were but rashly thrown into the peoples ears out of pulpits, in the Homilies of fathers; sometimes that they were deriued out of such Councels as suffered abortion, and were deluered of their children, which are their Ca∣nons, before inanimation, which is the Popes assent, or out of such Councels, as are now discontinued and dead, (howsoeuer they remained long time in vse and liuely & in good state of health) and therefore cannot be thought sit to be vsed now, or applyed in ciuil businesses; sometimes wee say the Popes voyce is in

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them all by his approbation; sometimes that onely the voyce of those authors, from whom they are taken, speakes in them. And acordingly we deliuer diners and various `Phylosophy vpon our Gratian, who compiled them; some∣times we allow him the ho∣nour and dignity of Diamonds and the nobler sort of stones, which haue both their cleere∣nesse, and their firmenesse fromthis, that that they are compacted of lesse parts, and atomes, then others are: and so is Gratian; whom for the same cause, sometimes we ac∣count but a hil of many sands cast together, and very 〈◊〉〈◊〉 to 〈◊〉〈◊〉 any foundation. I must confesse, that the fathers of our Order, out of a youth∣full siercenesse, which made

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them dare and vndertake any thing (for our order was scarce at yeares at that time) did a∣misse in inducing the Councell of Trent to establish certaine. Rules & Definitions, 〈◊〉〈◊〉 which it might not be lawfull to de∣part: for indeed there is no re∣medy, but that sometimes we must depart frō them: nor can it be dissembled, that both the writers of our Order, and the * 1.38 Dominicans haue departed from them in that great war and Tragedy lately raised at Rome, about Grace & Free-wil. For it is not our purpose, that the writings of our men should be so ratified, that they may not be changed, so that they bee of our Order which change them: so by the same liberty, which 〈◊〉〈◊〉 Ioannes * 1.39 hath taken in deliuering the

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King of Britaine frō the dan∣ger of Deposition; (because as yet no sentence is giuen against him) and also frō many other Canons, which others thinke may iustly bee discharged a∣gainst him, it will be as law∣full for vs, when that kingdome shal be inough stupified with this our Opin̄, to restore those Canons to their former vigor, and to awake that state out of her Lethergy, either with her owne heat, intestine warre, or by some Medicine, drawne frō other places: for Princes haue all their securities frō our in∣dulgence, and from the slacke & gentle interpretatiō of the Canōs: they are but priuileges, which since they are deriued, & receiue life from vs, they may be by vs diminished, re∣uoked, & anulled: for as it was lawfull for Mariana to depart

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from the doctrine of the 〈◊〉〈◊〉 of Constance, so it was law∣full for Cotton to depart from 〈◊〉〈◊〉 which, notwithstā∣ding, wee would haue onely lawfull for our Order, to whō it is giuen to know times, and secrets of state: for we see the Sorbonist themselues, (which may seeme to haue an Aristo∣cratical Papacie amongst thē∣selues) though they laboured to destroy the doctrine of 〈◊〉〈◊〉, did yet wisely for∣beare to name him, or any o∣ther Iesuit, which was a mo∣desty that I did not hope for * 1.40 at their hands; since, before I I dyed, they made one Decree against 〈◊〉〈◊〉 but yet therein, I thinke some what may bee attributed to my patience, & 〈◊〉〈◊〉; who knowing their strength, and our owne

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infancy forbad all of my Or∣der to make any answere to that `Decree of theirs: neither were we so Herculean as to offer to strangle Serpents in our cradle. But yet since af∣ter that time, they haue beene often prouoked by our men: (for I gaue not so iron a Rule & Precepts to my Disciples, as Francis did to his who would not haue his Rule applyed to times & to new occasions) certainly they might haue bin excused, if they had beene at this time sharper against vs. And if the Parliament of Paris thought it not fit to carry the matter so modestly in their Arrest against Mariana, but made both the Booke, and the Doctrine, and the Man, infa∣mous: What should wee say more of it, but that it is a Gy∣ant,

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and a wilde beast, which * 1.41 our men could neuer tame: for still it cryes and howles, The Pope is bound to proceede lawfully, and Canonically: and this they malitiously inter∣prete of their owne lawes, * 1.42 and of auncient Canons, which they hope to bring into vse againe, by an insensible way of Arrest, and Sentences in that Court. This then is the point of which wee accuse Machiuell, that he carried not his Mine so safely, but that the enemy perceiued it still. But wee, who haue receiued the Church to be as a ship, do freely saile in the deep sea; we haue an anchor, but wee hae not cast it yet, but keepe it e∣uer in our power, to cast it, and weigh it at our pleasure. And we know well enough,

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that as to sailing shippes, so to our sailing Church, all rocks, all promontories, all firme and fast places are dan∣gerous, and threaten ship∣wracke, and therefore to bee auoyded, and liberty and sea∣roome to bee affected; yet I doe not obstinatly say, that there is nothing in Machi∣uels commentary, which may bee of vse to this Church. Certainely there is very much; but wee are not men of that pouerty, that wee neede begge from others, nor dignify those things with our prayers, which proceede not from our selues. The Senate of Rome gaue vs heeretofore a noble example of this temperance and abstinence, which therefore refused

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to place Christ amongst their gods, because the matter was proposed by the Emperour, and begunne not in them∣selues. As for that particular, wherein Machiauel vseth e∣specially to glory; which is, that he brought in the liber∣ty of dissembling, and lying, it hath neither foundation nor colour: For not onely Plato, and other fashioners of Common-〈◊〉〈◊〉, allowed the libertie of lying, to Ma∣gistrates, * 1.43 & to Physicians; but we also cōsidring the fathers of the Church, Origen, Chryso∣stome, Hierom, haue not onely found that doctrine in them, but wee haue also deliuered them from all imputation, & reprehension by this euasion: That it was lawfull for them to maintaine that opinion, till some

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definition of the Church had established the contrarie. Which certainely, (though this should not be so openly spo∣ken of) as yet was neuer done. But yet wee haue de∣parted from this doctrine of free lying, though it were re∣ceiued in practise, excused by the Fathers, strengthened by examples of 〈◊〉〈◊〉 & An∣gels, in the Scriptures, and so almost established by the law of 〈◊〉〈◊〉, and Nature; onely for this reason, because we were not the first Authors of it. But we haue supplied this losse with another do∣ctrine, lesse suspitious; and yet of as much vse for our Church; which is 〈◊〉〈◊〉 〈◊〉〈◊〉, and Mixt 〈◊〉〈◊〉. The libertie therefore of lying, is neither new, not

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safe as almost all Machiauells precepts are so stale and ob∣solte, that our Serarius v∣sing I must confesse his lesu∣iticall * 1.44 liberty of wlde anti∣cipation, did not doubt to call Herod, who liued so long be∣fore Machiuell, a Machiauelli∣an. But that at one blow wee may cut off all his reasons, & all his hopes, this I affirme, this I pronounce; that all his bookes, and all his deedes, tend onely to this, that there∣by a way may be prepared to the ruine & destructiō of that part of this Kingdome, which is established at Rome: for what else doth hee endeauor or go about, but to change the forme of comon-wealth, and so to depriue the people (who are a soft, a liquid and ductile mettall, and apter for

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our impressions) of all their liberty; & hauing so destroy∣ed all ciuility & re-publique, * 1.45 to reduce all states to Monar∣chies; a name which in secular states, wee doe so much ab∣hor, (I cannot say it without teares,) but I must say it, that not any one Monarch is to be found, which either hath not withdrawne himselfe wholy frō our kingdome, or woun∣ded & endamadged in some weighty point; hereupon our Cotton confesses, that the au∣thority of the Pope is incom∣parably lesse then it was, and that now the Christiā Church, (which can agree to none but the 〈◊〉〈◊〉,) is but a diminu∣tiue. And herevpon also it is, that the Cardinal, who were * 1.46 wont to meete oftner, meete now but once in a weeke,

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because the businesses of the Court of Rome growe fewer. To forbeare therefore men∣tioning of the Kings of Bri∣taine, and Denmarke, and the other Monarkes of the first sort, which haue vtterly cast off Rome; euen in France, our enemies are so much encrea∣sed, that they equal vs almost in number: and for their strength, they haue this ad∣uantage aboue vs, that they agree within themselues, and are at vnity with their neigh∣bour Resourmed Churches; whereas our men, which call themselues Catholick there, doe so much differ from the Romane Catholick, that they do not onely preferre Coun∣cels, but euen the king, before the Pope, and euermore op∣pose those their two great

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Gyants, Gog and Magog, their Parliament of Paris, and their Colledge of Sorbon, against all our endeauours. Besides all this, we languish also mise∣rably * 1.47 in Spaine, where Cleargy men, if they breake their fealty to their Lord, are accused of trea∣son; where Ecclesiasticall per∣sons are subject to secular 〈◊〉〈◊〉∣ment, * 1.48 and, if they be sacrilegi∣ous, are burnt by the Ordinarie Magistrate; which are do∣ctrines and practises, contra∣ry, and dangerous to vs. And though they will seeme to haue giuen almost halfe the kingdome to the church, and so to haue diuided equally; yet those Graunts are so infe∣cted, with pensions, and other burdens, by which the kings seruants, and the younger sons of great persons are main∣tained,

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that this greatnesse of the Church there is rather a dropsie, then a sound state of health, established by wel∣concocted nourishment, and is rather done, to cast an Eouy vpon the Church, then to giue any true Maiestie to it. And euen in vsurping Ec∣siasticall sdiction, the kings of Spaine haue not onely ex∣ceeded the kings of Fraunce, but also of Britany. For (says * 1.49 Baronius of that king) there is nowrisen vp a new Head, a 〈◊〉〈◊〉, and a wonder. He Excom∣municates, and he Absolues: And he practiseth this power e∣uen against Bishops, and Cardi∣nals: He stops Appeales, and he acknowledges no superiority 〈◊〉〈◊〉 the sea of Rome, but 〈◊〉〈◊〉 in 〈◊〉〈◊〉 of Preuention: And therefore, the name Monarch, is a hate∣ful

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and execrable name to vs. Against which, Baronius hath thundred with such violence, such fiercenesse, and such bit∣ternesse, that I could hardly adde any thing thereunto, if I should speake (vnspeakable Emperour) with thine owne tongue: For he cals it an A∣dulterine name, and a Tower of Babel, and threatens destru∣ction to that king (though himselfe were his subiect) ex∣cept he forbeare the name. In the meane time, he resolues him to be a Tyran, and pro∣nounces him to stand yearely Excommunicate by the Bulla 〈◊〉〈◊〉. Neither doth he offer to desend himselfe with any other excuse, when a Cardi∣nall reprehended his fiercenes towards the king, then this; 〈◊〉〈◊〉 * 1.50 Imperions zeale, hath no power

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to spare God himselfe. And yet he confesseth, that this zeale was kindled by the Popes speciall commaund, and by his Oath taken, as Cardinall. Neither hath our Bellarmine almost any other cause of ad∣uauncing Monarchicall go∣uernmēt so much as he doth, then thereby to remoue all secular men from so great a dignitie, and to reserue it on∣ly to the Church. It was ther∣fore well done of that Rebul∣lus (who now begins to bee knowne in this state) when hauing surfeited with Ca∣lumnies against the French Church, and her Ministers, he hath dared of late to draw his pen, and to ioyne battell against a most puissant for∣raine Prince: hee did well (I say) and fitly, when hee cal∣led

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Bellarmine and Baronius, * 1.51 The sword and buckler of the Ro∣mane Church. And I cannot choose but thanke him for a∣ffoording the Title of Sword to our Order; as well, be∣cause after so many expositi∣ons of those words, (Behold, heere are two 〈◊〉〈◊〉) which our side hath gathered, to e∣stablish a temporall Iurisdi∣ction in the Pope, and which our Aduersaries haue remo∣ued, worne out, or scorned, this man hath relieued vs with a new, and may seeme to intend by the two swords, the Popes Excommunications, and the Iesuites 〈◊〉〈◊〉, and King-killings; as also because he hath reserued to our Order that soueraigne dignity, that as God himselfe was pleased to defend his Paradice with

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fire and sword, so we stand watchfull vpon the borders of our Church, not onely pro∣uided, as that Cherubin was with sire and sword, but with the later inuention of Gun∣powder; about the first inuen∣tour whereof I wonder, why Antiquaries should contend, whether it were the Diuell or a Frier, since that may be all one. But as (O vnspeakable Emperour) you haue almost in all things endeuoured to i∣mitate God: so haue you most throughly performed it in vs; For when God attempted the Reformation of his Church, it became you also to reforme yours. And accordingly by your Capuchins, you did re∣forme your Franciscans; which, before we arose, were your chiefest labourers, and

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workemen: and after, you Reformed your Capuchins, by your Recolets. And when you perceiued that in the Church of God, some men proceeded so farre in that Reformation, that they endeuoured to draw out, not onely all the peccant and dangerous humours, but all her beautie, and exteriour grace and Ornament, and c∣uen her vitall spirits, with her corrupt bloud, & so induce a leannesse, and il-fauourednes vpon her, and thought to 〈◊〉〈◊〉 * 1.52 a rigid coldnesse with a 〈◊〉〈◊〉, you also were pleased to fol∣low that Example, and so, in vs, did Reforme, and awaken to higher enterprise, the dis∣positions as well of the Cir∣cumcellions, as of the Assassins: for we do not limit our selues in that lowe degree of the

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Circumcellions, when we vrge and prouoke ohers to put vs to death; nor of the Assassins which were hired to kill some Kings, which passed through their quarter: for we exceed them both, because wee doe these things voluntarily, for nothing, & euery where. And as wee will bee exceeded by none, in the thing it selfe: so to such things as may seeme mysticall and significant, wee oppose mysticall things. And * 1.53 so, least that Canon; That no Clergy-man should weare a knife with a point, might seeme to concerne vs, by some prophe∣tical relation, we in our Rules haue opposed this precept: That our knife be often whetted, * 1.54 & so kept in an apt readines for all vses: for our diuination lies in the cōtemplation of en∣trails;

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in which art we are thus much more subtile then those amongst the old Romans, that wee consider not the entrails of Beasts, but the entrails of souls, in confessions, and the entrails of Princes, in treasons; whose hearts wee do not be∣leeue to be with vs, till we see them: let therefore this prat∣ling Secretary hold his tōgue, and be content that his booke be had in such reputation, as the world affoords to an E∣phemerides, or yearely Alma∣nack, which being accōmoda∣ted to certaine places, & cer∣taine times, may be of some short vse in some certaine place: and let the Rules and precepts of his disciples, like the Canons of prouincial Coun∣cels bee of force there, where they were made, but onely

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ours which pierce, and passe through all the world, retaine the strength and vigour of V∣niuersall Councels. Let him en∣ioy som honourable place amongst the Gentiles; but ab∣staine frō all of our sides: nei∣ther when I say, Our side, doe I only meane Moderne men: for in all times in the Romane Church there haue bene Fri∣ers which haue farr exceeded Machiauel.
Truely I thought this Oration of Ignatius very long: and I began to thinke of my body which I had so long abandoned, least it should pu∣trifie, or grow mouldy, or bee buried; yet I was loath to leaue the stage, till I saw the play en∣ded: And I was in hope, that if any such thing should befall my body, the Iesuits, who work Miracles so familiarly, & whose

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reputation I was so careful of in this matter, would take com∣passion vpon me, and restore me againe. But as I had sometimes obserued

Feathers or strawes swimme on the watersface, Brought to the bridge, where through a narrow place The water passes, throwne backe, and delad; And hauing daunc'd a while, and nimbly plai'd Vpon the watry circles, Then haue bin By the streames liquid snares, and iawes, suck'd in And suncke into the wombe of that solne bourne, Leaue the beholder desperate of returne:
So I saw Machiauel often put forward, and often thrust back, and at last vanish. And looking

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earnestly vpon Lucifers 〈◊〉〈◊〉, I perceiued him to bee affected towardes Ignatius, as Princes, who though they enuy and grudge, that their great Officers should haue such immoderate meanes to get wealth; yet they dare not com∣plaine of it, least thereby they should make them odious and contemptible to the people: so that Lucifer now suffered a new Hell: that is, the danger of a Popular Diuell, vaine-glorious, and inclined to innouations there. Therefore he determined to withdraw himselfe into his inward chamber, and to admit none but Ignatius: for he could not exclude him, who had de∣serued so well; neither did hee thinke it safe to stay without, & giue him more occasiōs to am∣plifie his owne worth, & vnder∣value

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all thē there in publique, and before so many vulgar Di∣uels. But as hee rose, a whole ar∣my of soules besieged him. And all which had inuented any new thing, euen in the smallest mat∣ters, thronged about him, and importuned an admission. Euen those which had but inuented new attire for woemen, & those whom Pancirollo hath recorded in his Commentaries for inuenti∣on * 1.55 of Porcellandishes, of Specta∣cles, of Quintans, of stirrups, and of Cauiari, thrust themselues in∣to the troupe. And of those, which pretended that they had squared the circle, the nūber was infinite. But Ignatius scattered all this cloud quickly, by com∣maunding, by chiding, by deri∣ding, and by force & violence. Amongst the rest, I was sory to see him vse Peter Aretine so ill

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as he did: For though Ignatius told him true when he boasted of his licentious pictures, that because he was not much lear∣ned, hee had left out many things of that kind, with which the ancient histories & poëmes abound; and that therefore A∣retine had not onely not added any new inuention, but had al∣so taken away all courage and spurres frō youth, which would rashly trust, and relie vpon his diligence, and seeke no further, & 〈◊〉〈◊〉 loose that infinite & preci∣ous treasure of Antiquitie. He added moreouer, that though Raderus, and others of his Or∣der, did vse to gelde Poets, and other Authors: (and heere I could not choose but wonder, why they haue not gelded their Vulgar Edition, which in some places hath such obscene words

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as the Hebrew tongue, which is * 1.56 therefore also called Holy, doth so much abhorre, that no ob∣scene things can be vttered in it) insomuch, that (as one of them very subtilly notes) the starre of Venus is very seldome called by that name in the Scripture: for how could it be, the word be∣ing not Hebrew? yet (said hee) our men doe not geld them to that purpose, that the memory thereof should bee abolished; but that when themselues had first tried, whether Tiberius his Spintria, & Martialis symplema, and others of that kinde, were not rather Chimeraes, & specu∣lations of luxuriant wits, then things certaine & constant, and such as might bee reduced to an Art and methode in licen∣tiousnes: for Iesuits neuer con∣ thēselues with the Theory in

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thing, but straight proceed to practise) they might after com∣municate them to their owne Disciples and Nouitiates: for this Church is fruitfull in pro∣ducing Sacraments; and being now loaded with Diuine sacra∣ments, it produces Morall sacra∣ments. In which, as in the di∣uine, it bindes the Layety to one species; but they reserue to themselues the diuers formes, and the secrets and mysteries in this matter, which they finde in the Authors whom they geld. Of which kind I thinke they giue a little glimmering and intima∣tion, when in the life of their last made Goddesse, Francisca Ro∣mana, * 1.57 they say: that the bed where shee lay with her husband, was a perpetuall Martyrdome to her, and a shop of miracles. But for all this, since Aretine was one, who

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by a long custome of libel∣lous & contumelious speaking against Princes, had got such a habit, that at last he came to di∣minish and dis-esteeme God himselfe. I wonder truly, that this Arch-Iesuite, though hee would not admit him to any e∣minent place in his Triumphant Church, should deny him an of∣fice of lower estimation: For truly to my thinking, he might haue beene fit, either to serue Ignatius, as maister of his plea∣sures, or Lucifer as his Crier: for whatsoeuer Lucifer durst think, this man durst speake. But Ig∣natius, who thought himselfe sufficient for all vses, thrust him away, and when he offered vp∣ward, offered his staffe at him: Nor did he vse Christopher Co∣lumbus with any better respect; who hauing found all waies in

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the earth, & sea open to him, did not feare any difficulty in Hell, but when hee offered to enter, Ignatius staid him, & said:

You must remember, sir, that if this kingdome haue got any thing by the discouery of the West Indies, al that must be attribu∣ted to our Order: for if the o∣pinion of the Dominicans had * 1.58 preuailed, That the inhabitants should be reduced, onely by prea∣ching and without violence, cer∣tainely their 200000 of men would scarce in so many ages haue beene brought to a 150 which by our meanes was so soone performed. And if the law, made by Ferdinando, onely against Canibals; That all which would not bee Christians should bee bondslaues, had not beene extended into other Prouinces, wee should haue

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lacked men, to digg vs out that benefite, which their countries affoord. Except we when wee tooke away their old Idolatrie, had recompen∣ced them with a new one of ours; except we had obtruded to those ignorant and barba∣rous people, sometimes natu∣rall things, sometimes artifi∣ciall, and counterfeit, in steed of Miracles; & except we had ben alwaies ready to conuey, & to apply this medicine made of this pretious Americā drug, vnto the Princes of Europe, & their Lords, & Counsellours, the profte by the onely disco∣uery of these places (which must of necessity bee refer∣red to fortune) would haue beene very little; yet I praise your perseuerance, and your patience; which since that

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seemes to be your principall vertue) you shall haue good occasion to exercise heere, when you remaine in a lower and remoter place, then you thinke belongs to your me∣rits.
But although Lucifer being put into a heate, and al∣most smothered with this troupe and deluge of preten∣ders, seemed to haue admitted Ignatius, as his Lieutenant, or Legat a latere, and trusted him with an absolute pow∣er of doing what hee would, yet he quickly spied his owne errour, and danger thereby. He began to remember how for∣cibly they 〈◊〉〈◊〉 to vrge the Canon Alius; by which the king of Fraunce is sayd to haue beene deposed, not for his wicked∣nesse, but for his infirmity, and vnfitnesse to gouerne: And that

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kings do forfeit their dignity, if * 1.59 they giue them selues to other matters, and leaue the gouern∣ment of the State to their offi∣cers. Therefore Lucifer thought it time for him to enter into the businesse, least at last Ignatius should prescribe therein; by which title of prescription he well knew, how much the Church of Rome doth aduaunce and defend it selfe against other Princes. And though he seemed very thankfull to Ignatius, for his deliuery from this importu∣nate company, yet when he per∣ceiued, that his scope and pur∣pose was, to keepe all others out, he thought the case needed greater consideration; For though he had a confidence in his owne Patriarkes, which had long before possest that place, and in whose company (as an

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Abbot said to the Diuell, * 1.60 who after long intermission, now tempted him) hee was growne old, and dobted not but that they would defend their right, and oppose them∣selues against any innouation, which Ignatius should practise, yet if none but hee in a whole age should bee brought in, hee was afraid, that this singularity would both increase his cou∣rage and spirit, and their reue∣rence, and respect towards him. Casting therefore his eyes into euery corner, at last a great way off, hee spied `Phil∣lip Nerius: who acknowled∣ging in his owne particular no especiall merit towardes this kingdome, forbore to presse neere the gate; But Lucifer called to his remem∣brance, that Nerius and all

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that Order, of which hee was the Author, which is called congregatio Oratorij, were erected, aduaunced, and dig∣nisyed by the Pope, princi∣pally to this end, that, by their incessant Sermons to the people, of the liues of Saints and other Ecclesiastique An∣tiquities, they might get a new reputation, and so the torrent, and generall supersti∣tion towards the Iesuits, might grow a little remisser, and luke-warme: for at that time the Pope himselfe beganne to bee afraid of the Iesuites, for they begunne to publish their Paradox of Confession and absolution to bee giuen by letters, and Messengers, and by that meanes to draw the secrets of all Princes onely to themselues; And they

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had tried and sollicited a great Monarch, who hath manie de∣signes vpon Italy, against the Pope, & deliuered to that prince diuerse articles, for the refor∣ming of him. Now the Pope and Lucifer loue euer to follow one anothers example: And therefore that which the one had done in the middle world, the other attempted in the lo∣wer. Hereupō he called for Phi∣lip Nerius, and gaue him many euidences of a good inclination towards him. But Nerius was too stupid, to interprete them aright. Yet Ignatius spied them, and before Lucifer should de∣clare himselfe any further, or proceed too farre herein, least after he were farre engaged, there should be no way, to a∣uert or withdraw him from his owne propositions (for he saw

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there must be respect had of his honour and constancy) hee thought it fittest to oppose now at the beginning. He sayd ther∣fore, that

he now perceiued, that Lucifer had not bene al∣together so much conuersant with Philip as with the Iesu∣its, since he knew not, how much Philip had euer profes∣sed himselfe an enemy to him. a 1.61 For he did not onely deny all visions, and appari∣tions, b 1.62 And commaunded one to spit in Maries face, when she appeared againe, because he thought it was the Diuell; c 1.63 And droue away an other that came to tempt a sicke man, in the shape of a Phisition; d 1.64 And was hard∣ly drawne to beleeue any pos∣sessings; but e 1.65 when three Diuels did meete him in the

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way, to afright him, he nei∣ther thought them worthy of any Exorcisme, nor so much as the signe of the Crosse, but meerely went by them, as though he scorned to look at thē, & so despighted thē with that negligēce. It may be that hee hath drawne others into Religion, but himselfe remai∣ned then in the Layety; in so much as I remember, that f 1.66 I vsed to call him, The Saints Bell, that hangs without, and cals others into the Church. g 1.67 Neither doe they which follow this Order, bind them∣selues with any vow or oath; Neither do I know any thing for which this h 1.68 kingdome is beholding to him, but that he moued Baronius to write his Annals.

To all this Nerius sayde no∣thing,

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as though it had beene spoken of some body else. Without doubt, either he ne∣uer knew, or had forgot that he had done those things which rhey write of him. But Lu∣cifer himselfe tooke the bold∣nesse (hauing with some dif∣ficultio got Ignatius leaue) to take Nerius his part: and pro∣ceeded so farre, that he ad∣uentured to say, that

Baro∣nius, Bozius, and others, which proceeded out of the Hyue of Nerius, had vsed a more free, open, and hard fashion against Princes, and better prouided for the Popes Direct Iurisdiction vp∣on all Kingdomes, and more stoutly defēded it, then they; which vndertaking the cause more tremblingly, then be∣comes the Maiestie of so

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great a businesse, adhered to `Bellarmines sect, and deuised such crooked wayes, and such perplexed intanglings, as by reason of the various, and vn∣certaine circumstances, were of no vse: And that whatso∣euer Nerius his schollers had performed, must be attribu∣ted to him, as the fruit to the roote.
Ignatius perceiuing that Lucifer vndertooke all of∣fices for Nerius, and became Iudge, Aduocate, and witnesse, pursuing his former resolution, determined to interrupt him, least when hee had enlarged himselfe in Nerius commenda∣tion, hee should thereby bee bound to a reward. He there∣fore cried out,
What hath Nerius done? what hath he, or his followers put in exe∣cution? haue they not euer

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bene onely exercised in spe∣culations, and in preparatory doctrines? Are these bookes which are written of the Iu∣risdiction of the Pope, to any better vse then Phisitians Le∣ctures of diseases, and of Me∣dicines? whilest these Receits lie hid in Phisitians bookes, and no body goes to the Pa∣tient; no body applies the me∣dicine to the disease, what good, what profit comes by all this? what part; what member of this languishing body haue they vndertaken? In what Kingdome haue they corrected these humours, which offend the Pope, either by their Incision or cauterising? what state haue they cut vp into an natomy? what Sceletō haue they prouided for the instruction of Posterity? Do

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Do they hope to cure their diseases, by talking and prea∣ching, as it were with charmes and enchantments? If Nerius shall bee thought worthy of this Honour, and this place, because out of his schollers writings something may be gleaned, which may be applied to this purpose, why should we not haue Be∣za and Caluin, and the rest of that sort here in Hell, since in their bookes there may be some things found, which may be wrefted to this pur∣pose? But, since their scope was not to extirpate Mo∣narchies, since they publised no such Canons and Apho∣rismes as might be applied to all cases, and so brought into certaine vse & consequence, but limited theirs to circum∣stances

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which seldome fall out, since they deliuered no∣thing dangerous to Princes, but where, in their opinion, the Souereignty resided in the People, or in certaine Ephori, since they neuer said, that this power to violate the perso of a prince, might either be takē by any priuate man, or com∣mitted to him, & that there∣fore none of their disciples hath euer boasted of hauing done any thing vpon the per∣son of his soueraigne: we see that this place hath euer bene shut against them: there haue bene some few of thē (though I can scarce affoord those mē the honour to number them with Knox, and Goodman, and Buchanan) which following our examples haue troubled the peace of some states, and

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beene iniurious to some prin∣ces, and haue beene admitted to some place in this King∣dome; but since they haue performed nothing with their hands, nor can excuse them∣selues by saying, they were not able: (for wherein was Clement, or Rauillac more a∣ble then they; or what is not he able to doe in the middest of an Army, who despiseth his owne life?) they scarce e∣uer aspire, or offer at this se∣cret and sacred Chamber. Lu∣cifer had a purpose to haue re∣plied to this: that perchaunce all their hands which had bin imbrued in the bowels of Princes, were not so immedi∣atly armed by the Iesuits, as that they were euer present at all consultations and resolu∣tions: (and yet he meant to

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say this, not as sworne wit∣nesse, but as Lucifer himselfe, & the father of lies, in which capacitie he might say any thing) But that it was inough that Confessours do so possesse them with that doctrine, that it is not now proposed to them as Phisicke, but as natu∣rall food, and ordinarie diet; and that therfore for the per∣formance of these things, a Iesuits person is no more re∣quisite, then that the heart of a man, because it sends forth spirits into euery limbe, should therefore bee present in euery limbe: that when it * 1.69 was in vse for the Consuls of Rome for the safety of their Country and army, to deuote themselues ouer to the infer∣nall god, it was lawfull for themselues to absteine and

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forbeare the act, and they might appoint any Souldier for that Sacrifice: and that so the Iesuites for the perfor∣mance of their resolutions, might stirre vp any amongst the people: (for now they en∣ioy all the priuiledges, of * 1.70 the Franciscans, who say; That the name of people com∣prehends all which are not of their Order:) And that if this be granted, Nerius his schol∣lers are inferiour to none; with whose bookes (if all the Iesuites should perish) the Church might content her∣selfe, and neuer feare dearth nor leanenesse.
This Lucifer would haue spoken; but hee thought it better and easier to forbeare: for hee obserued, that Ignatius had giuē a signe, & that all his troupes which were ma∣ny,

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subtile, & busie, set vp their bristles, grumbled, and compa∣cted themselues into one body, gathered, produced, and vrged all their euidence, whatsoeuer they had done, or suffered. There the English Legion, which was called Capistrata, which * 1.71 Campian led, and (as I thinke) Garnet concluded, was fiercer then all the rest. And as though there had beene such a second martyrdome to haue beene suffe∣red, or as though they might haue put off their Immortalitie, they offered themselues to any imploiment. Therefore Lucifer gaue Nrius a secret warning to withdraw himselfe, & spoke no more of him; and despairing of bringing in an other, be∣gan earnestly to thinke, how hee might leaue Ignatius out. This therefore he said to him:

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I am sorry my Ignatius, that I can neither find in others, de∣serts worthy of this place, nor any roome in this place wor∣thy of your deserts. If I might die, I see there would be no longe strife for a successour: For if you haue not yet done that act which I did at first in Heauen, and thereby got this Empire, this may excuse you, that no man hath beene able to tell you what it was: For if any of the Auncients say true, when they call it Pride, or Licentiousnesse, or Lying: or if it be in any of the Casuistis, which professe the Art of sin∣ning, you cānot be accused of hauing omitted it. But since I may neithor forsake this king∣dome, nor diuide it, this onely remedy is left: I will write to the Bishop of Rome: he shall

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call Galilaeo the Florentine to him; who by this time hath throughly instructed him∣selfe of all the hills, woods, and Cities in the new world, the Moone. And since he ef∣fected so much with his first Glasses, that he faw the Moone, * 1.72 in so neere a distance, that hee gaue himselfe satisfacti∣on of all, and the least parts in her, when now being growne to more perfection in his Art, he shall haue made new Glasses, and they recei∣ued a hallowing from the Pope, he may draw the Moone, like a boate floating vpon the water, as neere the earth as he will. And thither (because they euer claime that those imployments of discouery belong to them) shall all the Iesuites bee transferred,

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and easily vnite and recon∣cile the Lunatique Church to the Romane Church, without doubt, after the Iesuites haue been there a litle while, there will soone grow naturally a Hell in that world also: ouer which, you Ignatius shall haue dominion, and establish your kingdome & dwelling there. And with the same ease as you passe from the earth to the Moone, you may passe frō the Moone to the other starrs, which are also thought to be worlds, & so you may beget and propagate many Hells, & enlarge your Empire, & come neerer vnto that high seate, which I left at 〈◊〉〈◊〉.
Ignatius had not the patience to stay till Lucefer had made an end; but as soone as hee saw him pause, and take breath, and

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looke, first vpon his face, to ob∣serue what changes were there, and after to cast his eye to an o∣ther place in Hell where a great noyse was suddenly raysed: hee apprehended this inter∣mission, and as though Lucifer had ended, he said:

That of Lucifers affection to the Ro∣mane Church, and to their Or∣der euery day produced new Testimonies: and that this last was to bee accounted as one of the greatest. That he knew well with how great deuotion the Bishop of Rome did euer embrace and execute all counsels procee∣ding from him: And that therefore he hoped, that hee would reserue that imploy∣ment for the 〈◊〉〈◊〉, and that Empire for him their founder: and that he beleeued the Pope

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had thought of this before; and at that time when he put Parsons the English Iesuite in hope of a Cardinalship, hee had certainly a reference to this place, and to this Church: That it would fall out short∣ly, that all the damages, which the Romane Church hathlately suffered vpon the earth, shall bee recompenced onely there. And that, now this refuge was opened, if she should be reduced into grea∣ter streights, or if she should be vtterly exterminated, the world would not much la∣ment and mourne for it. And for the entertainment of the Iesuites there, there can be no doubt made at this time, when, (although their pro∣fession bee to enter whether Princes will or no) all the

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Princes of the world will not onely graciously affoord them leaue to goe, but wil∣lingly and cheerfully accom∣pany them with Certificates, and Dimissory letters. Nor would they much resist it, if the Pope himselfe would vouchsafe to go with them, and so fulfill in some small measure, that prophecy of his Gerson, De Auferibilitate Papae. Besides this a woman gouernes there; of which Sex they haue euer made their profite, which haue at∣tempted any Innouation in re∣ligion; with how much dili∣gence were the two Empresses Pulcheria & Eudoxia sollicited by the Pope for the establi∣shing of Easter? how earnest∣ly did both Pelagius and the Pope striue by their letters to

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draw the Empresse to their side? For since ulia had that honour giuen to her in pub∣lique coines, that she was cal∣led the mother of the Armie, the Mother of the Gods, and of the Senate, and the Mo∣ther of her Countrie; Why may not woemen instructed by vs, be called Mothers of the Church? Why may not wee relie vpon the wit of woemen, when, once, the Church deliuered ouer her selfe to a woman-Bishop? And since wee are reputed so for∣tunate in obtaining the fa∣uour of woemen, that woemen * 1.73 are forbid to come into our hou∣ses; and we are forbid, to take the charge of any Nunnes; since we haue had so good experi∣ence of their fauour in all the dies, or at lest haue thought

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it fit, that they which haue the charge to write our an∣niuersary letters from thence should make that boast, and adde something to the Truth, both because the Auncient Heretiques helde that course in insinuating their opinions, and because they which are acquainted with our practises will think any thing credible, which is written of vs in that behalfe, why should wee doubt of our fortune in this Queene, which is so much subiect to alterations, and passions? she languishes often in the ab∣sence of the Sunne, and of∣ten in Ecclipses falles into swounes, and is at the point of death. In these aduanta∣ges we must play our parts, & put our deuises in practise: for

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at these times any thing may be drawne from her. Nor must we forbeare to try, what verses, and incantations may worke vpon her: For in those things which the Poets writ, though they themselues did not beleeue them, we haue since found many truths, and many deep mysteries: nor can I call to minde any woman, which either deceiued our hope, or scaped our cunning, but Elizabeth of England; who might the rather be pardoned that, because she had put off all affections of woemen. The principall Dignity of which sex, (which is, to be a Mo∣ther) what reason had she to wish, or affect, since without those womanish titles, vnwor∣thy of her, of wife, & mother, such an heire was otherwise

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prouided for her, as was not fit to be kept any longer from the inheritance. But when I, who hate them, speake thus much in the honour of these two Princes, I finde my selfe caried with the same fury, as those Beasts were, which our men say, did sometime adore the Host in the Masse. For it is against my will, that I pay thus much to the Manes of Elizabeth; from scorning of which word Manes, when the king of great Brittaine writ it, I would our Parsons had forborne, fie one of our owne Iesuits vseth the * 1.74 same word, when reprehen∣ding our Aduersaries, he says, That they do insult vpon Garnets Manes. And yet this Elizabeth was not free from all Innovation; For the

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ancient Relioion was so much worne out, that to reduce that to the former dignity, and so to renew it, was a kinde of la∣nouation: and by this way of innouating shee satisfied the infirmity of her Sex, if shee suffered any: for a little In∣nouation might serue her, who was but a little a woman. Neither dare I say, that this was properly an Innovation, lest there by I should confesse that Luther and many others which liue in banishment in Heaven farre from vs, might haue a title to this place, as such Innouators. But we can∣not doubt, but that this luna∣tique. Queene will be more in∣clinable to our Innouations: for our Clauius hath beene long familiarly conusant with her, what she hath done

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from the beginning, what she wil do hereafter, how she be∣haues herselfe towardes her neighbour kingdoms, the rest of the starrs, & all the plane∣tary, & firmamentary worlds; with whom she is in league, & amity, and with whom at difference, he is perfectly in∣structed, so he haue his Ephe∣merides about him. But Claui∣ is too great a personage to be best owed vpon this Luna∣tique Queene, either as her Counsellour, or (which were more to our profit) as her Cōfessor. So great a man must not bee cast away vpon so small a matter. Nor haue we any other besides, whom vp∣on any occasion we may send to the Sunne, or to the other worlds, beyond the world. Therefore wee must reserue

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Clauius for greater vses. Our Herbestus, or Busaeus, or Voel∣lus (and these bee all which haue giuen any proofe of their knowledge in Mathe∣matiques) although they bee but tastlesse, and childish, may serue to obserue her as∣spects, and motions, and to make Catechisones fit for this Lunatique Church: for though Garnet had Clauius for his * 1.75 Maister, yet he profited little in the Arts, but being filled with Bellarmines Dictates, (who was also his Maister) his minde was all vpon Poli∣tiques. When wee are establi∣shed there, this will adde much to our dignity, that in our letters which wee send downe to the earth, (except perchaunce the whole Ro∣mane Church come vp to vs

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into the Moone) we may write of what miracles wee list: which we offered to doo out * 1.76 of the Indies, and with good successe, till one of our Order, in a simplicity, and ingenuity fitter for a Christian, then a Iesuite, acknowledged and lamented that there were no miracles done there. Truly it had bin better for vs to haue spit all those fiue Brothers, A∣costas, out of our Order, then that any one of them should haue vomited this reproach against vs. It is of such men as these in our Order, that * 1.77 our Gretzer saies: There is No body without his Excrements, because though they speake truth, yet they speake it too rawly. But as for this con∣templation, and the establi∣shing of that gouernement,

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(though it be a pleasant con∣sideration) we may neither pamper our selues lōger with it now, nor detaine you lōger therein. Let your Greatnesse write; let the Pope execute your counsell; let the Moone approach whē you two think fit. In the meane time let me vse this Chamber, as a re∣sting place: For though Pope Gregory were strucken by * 1.78 the Angell with a perpetu∣all paine in his stomach and feet, because hee compelled God by his praiers, to deli∣uer Traian out of Heil, and transferre him to Heauen; and therefore God, by the mouth of 〈◊〉〈◊〉, tooke an assurance for all his S∣cessours, that they should ne∣uer dare to request the like a∣gaine: yet when the Pope

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shall call mee backe from hence, hee can be in no dan∣ger, both because in this con∣tract, God cannot bee presu∣med to haue thought of me, since I neuer thought of him, and so the contract therein void; and because the Condition is not broken, if I bee not remoued into Hea∣uen, but transferred from an Earthly Hell, to a Lunatique Hell. More then this he could not be heard to speake: For that noise, of which I spoke before, increased exceeding∣ly, and whē Lucifer asked the cause, it was told him, that there was a soule newly ar∣riued in Hell, which said that the Pope was at last entrea∣ted to make Ignatius a Saint, and that hee hastened his Canonization, as thinking it

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an vniust'thing, that when all artificers, and prophane But∣chers had particular Saints to inuocate, only these spirituall Butchers, and King-killers, should haue none:
for when the Iesuite Cotton in those que∣stions which by vertue of his inuisible priuiledge he had pro∣uided for a possest person, a∣mongst others, dangerous both to England and France, had in∣serted this question: What shall I do for Ignatius his Canonizing? and found out at last, that Phi∣lip, King of Spaine, and Henry, King of Fraunce, contended by their Ambassadors at Rome, which of them should haue the honour of obtaining his Cano∣nizing (for both pretending to be King of Nauarre, both pre∣tended that this right and ho∣nour belonged to him: and so

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both deluded the Iesuits:) For * 1.79 D'Alcala a Franciscan, and P∣nafort a Iacobite, were by Philips meanes canonized, and the Ie∣suite left out. At last hee de∣spaired of hauing any assistance from these Princes; nor did he thinke it conuenient, that a Ie∣suite should be so much behol∣den to a King, since Baronius was already come to that * 1.80 heighth and constancy, that be∣ing accused of some wronges done to his King, hee did not vouchsafe to write in his owne excuse to the King, till the Con∣claue which was then held, was fully ended, least (as himselfe giues the reason) if hee had then beene chosen Pope, it should bee thought hee had beene beholden to the King therein. For these reasons therefore they labour the Pope

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themselues. They confesse, that if they might choose, they had rather hee should restore them into all which they had lost in Fraunce, and Venice, then that Ignatius should be sent vp into Heauen; and that the Pope was rather bound to do so, by the Order which God himselfe seemes to haue obserued in the Creation, where he first furni∣shed * 1.81 the Earth, and then the Heauens, and confimed him∣sefe to be the Israelites God by this Argument, that he had gi∣uen them the land of Canaan, * 1.82 and other temporall blessings. But since this exceeded the Popes omnipotence in Earth, it was fit he should try, what he could do in Heauen. Now the Pope would faine haue sa∣tisfied them with the title of 〈◊〉〈◊〉, which formerly vpon .

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the intreaty of the Princés of that Family, he had affoorded to Aloisius Gonzaga of that Order. * 1.83 He would also haue giuen this title of Saint rather to Xaueri∣us, who had the reputation of hauing done Miracles. Indeed he would haue done any thing, so hee might haue slipped o∣uer Ignatius. But at last hee is ouercome; and so against the will of Heauen, and of the Pope, Lucifer himselfe being not very forward in it, Ignatius must bee thrust in amongst the Saints. All this discourse, I, beeing growne cunninger then that Doctor, Gabriell Nele (of whom Bartolus spea∣keth) * 1.84 that by the onely mo∣tion of his lippes, without any vtterance, vnderstood all men, perceiued and read in

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euery mans countenance there. These thinges, as soone as Lucifer apprehended them, gaue an end to the contention; for now hee thought he might no longer doubt nor dispute of Ignatius his admission, who, besides his former pretences, had now gotten a new right and title to the place, by his Canonization; and he feared that the Pope would take all delay ill at his handes, because Ca∣nonization is now growne a kinde of Declaration, by which all men may take knowledge, that such a one, to whom the Church of Rome is much be∣holden, is now made parta∣ker of the principall dignities, and places in Hell: For these men euer make as though they would follow Augustine in all things, and therefore they

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prouide that that also shall bee true which he said in this point: That the Reliques of many are ho∣noured vpon earth whose soules are tormented in Hell. Therefore he tooke Ignatius by the hand, and led him to the gate. In the meane time, I, which doubted of the truth of this report of his Canonizing, went a little out for further instruction: for I thought it scarce credible, that Paulus 5. who had but late∣ly burdened both the Citie of Rome, and the Church, with so great expences, when he cano∣nized Francisca Romana, would so easily proceed to canonize Ignatius now, when neither a∣ny prince offered to beare the charge, nor so much as sollici∣ted it: for so he must bee for∣ced to waste both the Treasures of the Church at once. And

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from Leo 3. who 800 yeares after Christ, is the first Pope which Canonized any, I had not obserued that this had euer beene done: Neither do I think that Paulus 5. was drawne to the Can onizing of this woman by any other respect, then be∣cause that Rule which shee ap∣pointed * 1.85 to her Order, was Di∣ctated and written by Saint Paul: For though Peter, and Mag∣dalene, and others, were pre∣sent at the writing thereof, as witnesses, yet Paul was the Au∣thor thereof. And since Saint Pauls old Epistles trouble and dis-aduantage this Church, they were glad to apprehend a∣ny thing of his new writing, which might be for them, that so this new worke of his might beare witnesse of his second conuersion to Papistry, since by

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his first conuersion to Christia∣nity, they got nothing: for to say, that in this businesse Paulus 5. could not choose but be God, God himselfe, to say, that hee must needes haue liued familiarly with the God-head: and must haue heard Predestination it selfe whispering to him: And must haue had a place to sit in Councell with the most Diuine Trinitie, (all which Valladerius sayes of him) is * 1.86 not necessary in this mat∣ter, wherein the Popes, for the most part, proceed, as humane affections leade them. But at last, after some enquiry, I found that a certaine idle Ga∣zettier, which vsed to scrape vp Newes, and Rumours at Rome, and so to make vp sale letters, vainer, and falser, then the Iesuites Letters of Iapan, and the Indies, had brought

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this newes to Hell, and a little Iesuiticall Nouice, a credulous soule, receiued it by his im∣plicit faith, and published it. I laughed at Lucifers easinesse to beleeue, and I saw no rea∣son euer after, to accuse him of infidelity. Vpon this I came backe againe, to spie (if the gates were stil open) with what affection Ignatius, and they who were in auncient possessi∣on of that place, behaued themselues towardes one an other. And I found him yet in the porch, and there be∣ginning a new contention: for hauing presently cast his eyes to the principall place, next to Lucifers owne Throne, and finding it possest, he stopt Lucifer, and asked him, who it was that sate there. It was answered, that it was Pope Bo∣niface;

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to whom, as to a prin∣cipall Innouator, for hauing first chalenged the name of V∣niuersall Bishop, that honour was affoorded. Is he an Inno∣uator thundred Ignatius? shall I suffer this, when all my Dis∣ciples haue laboured all this while to proue to the world, that all the Popes before his time did vse that name? And that Gregory did not repre∣hend the Patriarch Iohn for ta∣king to himselfe an Antichri∣stian name, but for vsurping a name which was due to none but the Pope. And could it be fit for you, Lucifer, (who in this were either vnmindfull of the Romane Church, or else too weake and incapable of her secrets and mysteries) to giue way to any sentence in Hell, which (though it were

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according to truth,) yet dif∣fered from the Iesuites Ora∣cles? With this Ignatius flyes vpwardes, and rushes vpon Boniface, and throwes him out of his Seate: And Luci∣fer went vp with him as fast, and gaue him assistance, least, if hee should forsake him, his owne seate might bee endan∣gered. And I returned to my body; which

As a flower wet with last nights dew, and then Warm'd with the new Sunne, doth shake of agen All drowsinesse, and raise his trem∣bling Crowne, Which crookedly did languish, and stoope downe To kisse the earth, and panted now to sinde Those beames return'd, which had not long time shin'd,

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was with this returne of my soule sufficiently resreshed. And when I had seene all this, and considered how fitly and pronortionally Rome & Hell an wered one another, after I had seene a Iesuit turne the Pope out of his Chaire in Hell, I suspected that that Order would at∣tempt as much at Rome.

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