*Yet there is another place of sainct Ambrose, whiche the Papistes thynke maketh muche for their purpose,* but after due examinacion, it shal plainly appeare, howe muche they be deceyued. They allege these wordes of sainct Ambrose in a booke intituled De ijs qui initiantur mysterijs.
Thus farre haue I rehersed the woordes of Saynt Ambrose, yf the sayd boke bee his (whi∣che they that bee of greatest learnyng and iud∣gement doo not thynke) by which woordes the Papistes would proue, that in the supper of the Lorde after the woordes of Consecration (as they bee commonly called) there remaineth nei∣ther bread nor wyne, bycause that S. Ambrose saieth in this place, that the nature of the bread and wyne is chaunged.
*But to satisfie their myndes, let vs grant for their pleasure, that the forsaid boke was Saint Ambrose owne worke, yet the same boke maketh nothynge for their purpose, but quite agaynste them. For he saieth not, that the substaunce of bread and wyne is gone, but he sayth, that theyr nature is chaunged, that is to saye, that in the holy communion we oughte not to receaue the bread and wyne, as other common meates and drynkes, but as thynges cleane chaunged into a hygher estate, nature, and condition, to be ta∣ken as holy meates and drynkes, wherby we re∣ceaue spirituall feedyng, and supernaturall no∣rishement Page 42 from heauen, of the very true body and bloud of our sauior Christ, through the om¦nipotent power of God, and the wonderfull wor¦kyng of the holy ghost. Whiche so well agreeth with the substance of bread and wyne styl remai¦nynge, that if they were gone awaye, and not there, this our spirituall feedyng, coulde not be taught vnto vs by theim.
And therfore in the most part of the exāples, whiche S. Ambrose allegeth for the wonderful alteration of natures, the substaunces dyd styll remayne, after the nature and proprieties were chaunged. As whan the water of Iordane (con∣trary to his nature) stoode styll lyke a wall, or flowed against the streame towardes the head & spryng, yet the substaunce of the water remay∣ned the same that it was before. Lykewyse the stone, that aboue his nature and kynde flowed water, was the selfe same stone that it was be∣fore. And the fludde of Marath, that chaunged his nature of bytternesse, chaunged for all that no part of his substance. No more did that yron, whiche contrary to his nature, swam vpon the water, lose thereby any parte of the substaunce thereof. Therfore as in these alteracions of na∣tures, the substaunces neuerthelesse remay∣ned the same, that they were before the alteraci∣ons: euen so doeth the substaunce of bread and wyne remayne in the Lordes supper, and be na∣turally receiued and digested into the body, not withstandyng the sacramental mutacion of the Page [unnumbered] same into the body and bloud of Christ. Which sacramentall mutation declareth the superna∣turall spirituall and inexplicable eatynge and drynkynge, feedyng and digestyng of the same body and bloudde of Christe, in all theim, that godly and accordyng to theyr duetie, do receiue the sayd sacramentall bread and wyne.
And that Saynt Ambrose thus ment, that the substance of breade and wyne remayne styll af∣ter the consecration, it is moste clere by three o∣ther examples of the same mater, folowynge in the same chapiter. One is of theym that bee regenerated, in whome after theyr regenerati∣on dooeth styll remayne theyr former naturall substaunce. An other is of the Incarnation of our Sauiour Christe, in the whyche peryshed no substaunce, but remayned as well the sub∣staunce of his godhead, as the substance whiche he tooke of the blessed vyrgin Mary. The third exaumple is of the water in baptisme, where the water styll remayneth water, although the holy ghost come vpon the water, or rather vpon him that is baptised therein.
*And although the same sainct Ambrose, in an other booke entitled De sacramentis, doeth saye,
And hereof he bryngeth .iiii. examples. The first of the regeneration of a man: the second is of the standyng of the water of the red sea: the third is of the bytter water of Marath: and the fourthe is of the yron that swamme aboue the water. In euery of the whyche exaumples, the former substance remayned stylle, not withstan∣dyng alteration of the natures. And he conclu∣deth the whole matter in these fewe woordes.
Thus is a sufficient answere made vnto thre principall authoritees, whiche the Papistes vse to allege, to stablysh their errour of transubstā∣tiation. The first of Cyprian, the second of S. Iohn Chrysost. and the thirde of S. Ambrose. Other authoritees and reasons som of them do brynge for the same purpose, but forasmuche as they be of small moment and weight, and easy to be answered vnto, I wil passe them ouer at this tyme, and not trouble the reader with them, but Page [unnumbered] leaue them to be wayed by his discretion.