A necessitie of separation from the Church of England, prooved by the nonconformists principles Specially opposed vnto Dr. Ames, his Fresh suit against humane ceremonies, in the point of separation only. Also Dr. Laiton, Mr. Dayrel, and Mr. Bradshaw, are here answered, wherein they have written against us. With a table in the later end, of the principal occurrents in this treatise. By Iohn Canne, pastor of the ancient English church, in Amsterdam.

CHAP. V. (Book 5)

* 1.1 WE heard in the first Chapt. of the reference, which Dr. Ames had unto Mr. Bradshawes book, intituled, the vnreasonablenesse of separation; now as my promise there was, so I will (according to the measure of knowledge, and grace, given me) in this Chapter make answer unto it, that so the godly min∣ded, may judge, whether the Separatists, or he, are most vnreasonable.

That the reader might not exspect to see any thing in the booke, proved by the word of God, the publisher therefore of it (after some scoffing at Mr. Iohnson and others) tells us, that it was not the authors meaning to ga∣ther proofes, &c. and much quotation may prove som thing, but answereth not directly to any thing.

Answ. 1. Whosoever meanes to settle well the conscience, especially in a main point of faith and reli∣gion, ought necessarily to bring good proofes from the scriptures, for the things whereof he speaketh: For otherwise, either men will give no trust unto his* 1.2 words, or if they doe, it must be unadvisedly. And how∣soever, he putts Gods word here sleightly by, notwith∣standing others have otherwise esteemed of it. Augu∣stine was of mind, that Councells, Bishops, &c. ought not to be objected for triall of controversies, but the holy scriptures onely,

Another saith, I yeeld the scripture a witnesse of my

sence; and my exposition without the Scripture, let it be of no* 1.3 credit: Yea hereto accord the very Papists, We are ra∣ther to beleeve one private faithfull man, than a whole Councell, and the Pope himselfe, if he have the Word and reason on his side. As D. Ames therefore said, so doe we say, we esteeme not any thing like of a thousand objections, fetched from testimonies, subject to errour, as we would have done of one plaine testimonie divine, if it could have been produced.

2. That quotation of scriptures should not answer directly to any thing, it sounds in my apprehension very harshe, to say no worse▪ for I have hitherto allwayes thought, that there could be no better answering then by scrip∣ture, I mean rightly all eaged & applyed.

3. As many wordes simply will not serve to vntye the knot of a syllogisme, so neither will a few firmely knitt it, except they be spoken to good purpose.

4. For his upbraiding of us with ignorance about Logical formes, I let it passe, we are, that we are, and doe blesse God for that small knowledge of humane lear∣ning, which we have received, & do think it a practise most unbeseeming any of the Saints, to boast of their own ability, much more to deride others, for their lacks But this is to be observed generally, that those which stād for bad causes, doe after this sort still reproch their adversaries; thus do the Papists,a 1.4 the Protestants, so the Protestants,b 1.5 the Puritans, and so they us, as here, & in their other writingsc 1.6 usually. Now to the booke.

I thought once to have sett downe his answer, be∣fore my reply, as he hath done Mr. Iohnsons reasons, be∣fore his answer: but I perceived then, that this treatise would be very large; besides, both their bookes are all∣ready in many mens hands, & therefore I changed my mind▪ only I doe desire the reader to peruse both their writings, for so shall he profitt the more, by that which I have here penned.

* 1.7 I find nothing here, but some insinuating florishes, of his owne skill in Logick, and great contempt putt upon Mr. Iohnson, for his vnablenesse therein. Now, my purpose is, both here and in other places, in a manner alltogether to passe-by his vntemperate speaches, know∣ing that before this time, he hath made his reckoning for them with God.

* 1.8 Besides, it is a Christian part not to render rebuke for rebuke, and a thousand times better were it to sustaine even a legion of reproaches, then for a man by tur∣ning (though but one) to give cause of suspition, that evill hath gott som part of conquest over him. But I marvell, why he saith, that Mr. Iohnson in disdaine sti∣leth them forward preachers; For 1. He knew not the others heart. 2. To my knowledge, this is a terme commonly given, and taken of them, acceptably, and* 1.9 in good part. 3. The Apostle saith, Love hopeth all things; But it is evident Mr. Bradsh. followed not his rule, which is, when things are doubtfull in themselvs, to embrace the best.

* 1.10 He speaks often of their law, but what law he means, I know not, whether the cōmon, provincial, civil, or statut;

neither what by the true intent of it, and therefore until some freind of his, doe set forth an exposition of it, we cannot give to it any direct answ. 2. Seing he grants, to be a true minist. there must be a qualificatiō, according to the intent of the law, we desire them, in their next writing, to tell us plainly, whether all their Bb. Preists, & Deacons, are so qualified: if not, then certainly Mr. Dayr. Mr. Bradsh. &c. have much deceived the people: For under the colour of some few among them, qualified (as they say) they have cunningly sought, to justifie all the rest; and yet knew, (as it is cleare by this mans wri∣ting) that their ministerie is false and unlawfull. 3. Let the vanity of his speach be here observed; their mi∣nisters are true, if they bee, &c. which is, as if a knowne harlot, should say, I am honest, if I am qualified, accor∣ding to the word of God. 4. He mistakes Mr. Iohn∣sons words, for he doth not say, that the Prelates are ministers of the Church Assemblies, but of the Church of England; Notwithstanding, if there were need, we could prove both by their profession, and practise, that* 1.11 the Bb. are the proper Pastors of all the Parishes in their Diocesses, and the rest are curats only to them. 5. If the ministerie of the Prelates, belong not to any ordinarie assemblies, then is the same Antichristian, and so consequently is that which is derived from it; And so much from their owne Principles, we have formerly* 1.12 proved. 6. He should have proved, that that authority & power, which the Law gives to the Prelates, is lawfull, and good; for if the same be otherwise (as he knew in his owne conscience it is) I doe not see for what

reason he mentioneth it, it having no weight of mat∣ter against us, nor for themselves.

* 1.13 Answ. 1. To let passe the name Priest, and that like∣nesse which is betweene their ministery and the popish* 1.14 priesthood, because others already have sufficiently hand∣led the thing: I doe deny that they are such Pastors and teachers as are spoken of in Ephes. 4. 11, 12. and have shewed the contrary from their owne principles.

2. Note this mans lightnesse and inconstancy. Some∣time he stands for the justification of all their Ministers, as here, and in pag. 10. &c. but otherwhile he will only defend those which are qualified according to the law, and execute their office, as page 2. 5. 94, &c. Thus a man knowes not how to follow, nor where to finde him:* 1.15 As the way of an Eagle in the ayre, such is the way of an a∣dulterous woman: It is hid and cannot be knowne.

3. It is untruely affirmed, that their priests and Dea∣cons doe exercise the proper and essentiall ministerie of Pa∣stors and Teachers. For first, most of them, by their con∣fession,* 1.16 are idle bellied Epicures, sencelesse asses, and not one of twenty that can preach. 2. By their law, their Deacons are not to administer the Sacraments, neither any of those which are full Priests, but according to a Popish Leiturgy. 3. None of them, neither may, nor doe exercise Church-governement, though they acknowledge it an assenti•••••• and proper part of their ministerie.

* 1.17 Answ. 1. Our question is not of what should, or may be in a Land, but of that which we know is by law established and practised accordingly. 2. I cannot thinke that the Prelates have permitted the ministery

of some, which never received ordination from the papists or themselves: for though it may be possible, that one or two, may secretly passe without being made Priests by them, yet that they should permit this thing, I am perswaded he could never proove it.

3. He often taxeth M^r. Iohns. with absurdenesse, but no man I thinke could passe him here. For if it should be granted, that there was a Prelate which for love or money permitted the ministery, &c. doth it therefore fol∣low, that the ministery of that Church, is any other, but of their Prelacie, Priesthood and Deaconry, as Mr. Iohnson sayth. For what if some have as much per∣mission under the Papacie, is not their ministery then of Prelacy, Priesthood and Deaconry? Indeed so M^r. Bradsh. doth inferre, but with what wit or truth, let the Reader Iudge.

4. A man may be an unlawfull Minister, though he never received the Bb. ordination, viz. when he runs of his owne head, and is not elected, called and ordained by the free and common consent of a true Church, and such were those of whom M^r. Bradsh. speaketh, if there be any truth in his relation.

5. If some do swerve from some observances, which the Law requires, yet is not their calling hereby the more true and lawfull: for if Monkes and Friars do not keepe sometimes all their rules and orders, yet are they notwithstanding the divels and Popes officers, even so, &c.

6. Though their Law intend not, such a proper priesthood, as was in the Iewish Church, nor (as in all re∣spects)

is now under the Romish beast, yet this helpes nothing their cause, seeing it both tendeth and establi∣sheth such a ministerie, as by their owne confession is directly against the word of God:

* 1.18 7. Touching their Parsons, Vicars, Stipe ndaries, Chap∣lins, &c. wee have prooved from their writings that these names and offices come wholly from the di∣vell and Antichrist: and therefore his pleading for Baal is altogether here unusefull as to say, All is one kinde of ministery and in this respect they are Parsons, and in that respect, Vicars, &c. for, as much may a Papist say of their Parsons, Vicars, &c. and as true too. If therefore he would have justified these men, he should first have manifested, that his brethren have notoriously slandred their ministery, & so have taken quite away their rea∣sons, by shewing better, and not needlessely to bring in a tale, which neither helpes him, nor hurts us.

8. His conclusion is pi••tifull: for instead of satisfa∣ction, he leaves his Reader more doubtfull then before: in regard of an exception which he makes thus, If they duely execute the same, meaning, the office of true Pastors, now what, if they doe not this, as indeed they doe not, what be they then? To this he saith nothing: nei∣ther will I inferre any thinge, but leave it as a Quaere, to be answered by him, which shall next write in the behalfe of Mr. Bradsh.

* 1.19 Before I make answer unto the particular things in these pages, I will lay downe some generall observa∣tions, touching the manner of this mans writing, both here, and in the rest of his booke. 1. Haveing no∣thing

with any shew to object, like a bold sophister, he makes a flat denialls of expressed truths, as thus: I say it is false, I deny it, &c. as if the weight of an argument were sufficiently removed by empty denials, 2. His proofs are allwayes beggarly I sayes, or ifs, and may be soes; and doth not in all his writing, either directly, or by sound consequence from the scripture, confirme any one thing, whereof he speaketh. 3. Although in the course of his life, he made shew to be a great eni∣my of the Bb. and their traditions; yet now against us, he standeth to maintaine the vilest abominations in their Churches. 4. Such corruptions as the Noncon∣formists generally have condemned, he basely here ju∣stifieth; and by the same carnall and corrupt reasons, which the Prelates use to doe, so that his writing is not more against us, then against themselves, and therefore it concerneth them as much as us, to set forth an answer unto it. 5. As Mr. Dayr. in his booke, hath shewed much ignorance, and contradiction; no lesse hath he great hypocrisie, in pleading for such evills; as some, which knew him, doe well know, that his judgement of them (at least of many of them) was wholy other∣wise.

It is true, the report goes, that he was not the pro∣per author of it, but another did it, and gott him to father it▪ This may be so, and it is probable enough, notwithstanding Mr. Brandsh. evill is not the lesse, if he should suffer any one, as the Asse did Balaam, to ride upon him, for to curse the Israel of God. Now to answer the things particularly.

Answ. 1. When we know what those accessarie parts bee, which true Pastors, and teachers may have of their offices, callings, and administrations, not ordained by Christ, we will speak more of that point, in the meane time, they may doe well, to consider, that they want not the accessarie only, but indeed the substanciall and essenciall parts of true offices, &c. & this they thēselvs doe not barely say, but soundly prove: & to cōfute this, Mr. Bradsh. hath nothing in all his writing, and therefore their owne arguments must needs stand in force, un∣till they doe revoke them, and bring better to the con∣trary.

2. Whether the Prelates be ordinarie, or extraordi∣narie ministers, it is not material, and therefore the di∣stinction is idle, and impertinent; For if their office and* 1.20 calling be false, devilish, Antichristian, &c. as the Non∣conformists say, we will give Mr. Bradsh. leave, to place them in what order or degree he will, and yet his cause shall be never the better by it: but observe, how∣soever some time he undertakes to justifie their stan∣ding; yet here by a wile, which he useth, they are left, to shift for themselves.

3. He could not prove, when he was alive, that ei∣ther the prastise of all the Preists in the Church of Rome, in all things was according to that constitution, or their constitution, according to their practise, or either of them answereable to the strict termes of the Law. What then, might not he therefore conclude any thing generally against the unlawfullnesse of their ministry? his wordes import positively no, but we are sure yes; &

so will every wise man I think (beside himselfe) affirm too. Notwithstanding his Tenets usually doe lead un∣to such absurdities.

4. He either, through ignorance, or deceit speakes, besides the present question. For Mr. Iohns. to proove them false ministers, mentioneth their calling and en∣trance, according to their Pontisicall, now to this he saith nothing, but talkes of their practise: the which, if it should be granted, to be otherwise then the Law requires, yet it is nothing to the purpose, for which he brin∣geth it.

Would it not make some men laugh, if they should heare one, that is accused to be a bastard: To maintaine the contrarie, by this reason, viz. because he doth such duties, as those children doe, which are borne under wedlock. The thing which Mr. Iohnson affirmeth from their owne writing, is, that their ministerie begotten by the Prelates, is illegitimate and false; I say those, which take their offices, and callings from them, are bastardly ministers. Now, marke (good reader) how handsomly Mr. Bradsh. makes an answere to it. He cannot prove (saith he) that the practise of all our ministers, is in all things according to the constitution, &c. What then, yet seeing he proves your ministerie by your owne con∣fession to be a Child of the Whore,* 1.21 it must needs be still a bastard, whether the practise of it be good or evill.

5. I doe deny that those administrations, which are performed by their Popish Canons, and booke of common prayer, are the maine, principall, and essentiall admini∣strations,

which Christ hath ordained. For first, these allow of no true Pastors and Teachers. 2. Require the Sacraments to be unlawsully administred. Lastly, com∣mand an idolatrous worship, and divellish discipline to be performed and executed in all their congregations.

In page 46. he sayth, that the Prelates may well laugh at Mr. Iohnsons simplicity and sillinesse of wit, that thinkes to fright them with such a bugbeare as this, &c. But may they not much more laugh at the writings, which his brethren have published against their Canons & service∣booke,* 1.22 calling the former slavish Ordinances, lawlesse, peri∣lous, Popish, wicked, & damnable Canons, shamefull idolls, &c.* 1.23 the later, a devised service, the Masse in English, &c. But what of all this, if they will beleeve Mr. Bradsh. they need not be frighted with such bugbeares, as these: For if it should be granted (as it is only for reasoning sake, that he will doe this) that some thinges are in the Canons and booke aforesaid, which were never ordained by Christ, yet the main, principal, and essencial administra∣tions, which he commaundeth, are contayned in them.

Now, how much better had it beene, if this mishap∣pen thing, had had its mothers womb, for the grave, or beeing brought out, had been ever kept in some hole or darke place, where it should never have seen any light, nor any mans eyes should ever have looked upon it, then to serve in this sort, which it doth; namelie, to strengthen the handes of the wicked, greive the hearts of the righteous, & to discover their owne vile halting, & double dealing.

* 1.24 Ans. 1. Are the Princes of the earth bound by Gods Lawes to mainetaine the ordinary ministery of your assem∣blies? then have you from time to time, shamefully mocked and abused them, in craving so earnestly for their aide, to have this same quite rooted out, and abo∣lished,* 1.25 and a right established in the roome and place thereof. 2. The Dumb dogs, Caterpillers, and idle bellies never had a better Proctor then this man to plead for their unlawfull standing. For he saith the Magistrate is bound to protect their ministery. But how can we beleeve him, seeing the Nonconformists teach otherwise, and lay downe unanswerable arguments for the same: but as for him he gives none at all. If any should say, He meanes not the bare Readers. I answer, He makes no distinction, nor exception, but speakes generally, and indefinitely of the ordinary ministery of their Church as∣semblies. Beside, the office and calling of these, is for nature and kinde the very same which the rest of them have received. 3. I doe not so much admire, that he makes here some question, whether there be any cor∣ruption, in and about their ministery. And that pag. 13. he thinkes needlesse to spend any time, in justifying their Canons, as I wonder he had not downe right affirmed, that there are no faults at all in either of them.

For any one may see by his worke, that he meant not now to tie his conscience short, but would make a little bould with it for the present, and so he might fetch over a sure blow upon us, he cared not though with every stroke he made wounds through the sides of his brethren. 4. Seeing he confesseth, the idolatrous

ministerie of Antichrist is to be abolished. It must needs follow then, that these scriptures,† 1.26 alleaged by Mr. Iohns. are neither abused nor prophaned: For such is theirs. 1. Because their enterance into the ministery, is by a Popish, and vnlawfull vocation. 2. The service, which they are enjoyned to doe, is idolatrous and Anti∣christian. 3. The manner of performing it, is also unlawfull. For they are to weare surplusses, signe chil∣dren in Baptisme, with the signe of the Crosse, kneel in the act of receaving the bread and wine in the Lords supper, &c. the which things are very idols. 4. Touching preaching, it is no essencial part of their mi∣nisterie: For those which neither doe it, nor can, are yet by their Law as true and Lawfull Ministers, as any other among them. And all this, many Nonconfor∣mists of greater note, and zeale, then ever Mr. Bradsh. was, have by reason soundly manifested, and therefore he hath here shewed the more pride, and ignorance, thus still to oppose them, haveing nothing wherewith to refute their effectual arguments; But to use his own* 1.27 phrase, a vomit of his coleworts, not twise, but twise twenty times sodden, that is, bold I sayes.

* 1.28 Doth he speake in earnest, that the Prelacie, in and of it self, may stand well enough with the Offices of the A∣postles, Evangelists, Pastors, &c. Truely I cannot think so, and therefore if I should have seene such a passage, in their writing against the bb. I would have admired at it; but seeing it is put forth onelie against the Separatists tush, why may it not passe, though it be as contrarie to their saying otherwhere, as light to darkenesse.

The author of the Preface, before the Fresh suit, against humaine Ceremonies, saith, he cannot abide dawbing. Now, I professe in all good conscience, I never saw to my re∣membrance, such dawbing in any Conformist; and to say truth, it is a great deale worse: And for proofe hereof, observe what they write in their writings against the Prelacie:

* 1.29 The Hierarchicall government cannot consist in a nation with soundnesse of doctrine, sincerity of Gods worship, holi∣nesse of life, the glorious power of Christs government, nor with the prosperity and safety of the commonwealth.

* 1.30 Another saith: Not Paul himselfe, if he were liveing, should be permitted, to continue his function, if he would not conforme, as we are verily perswaded he would not.

Mr. Vdal, Mr. Cartwright, Mr. Banes, Mr. Bates, and many others of them, have spoken to the same effect, and suffered for this banishment, spoyling of their goods, yea some of them losse of life. See also before in pag. 34, 35. 138.

It is reported of a certain Thratian, by name Leicur∣gus, how imagining that he was, hewing downe a vine with his hatchet, slew his owne sonne, and maymed* 1.31 himselfe. Much to this purpose is Mr: Bradsh. worke: for thinking to refute us, he quite overthrowes his bre∣threns cause, and his owne too. And whether this be not unreasonable, let the judicious judge.

If Dr. Ames had not boasted of this mans booke, I would not have touched it, because I knew the bowels of it could possible not be opened, but it would cause an ill savour to some, in regard it containeth most

vile and uncleane matter; but seeing they are neither affraid to publish such stuffe to the world, nor ashamed afterward to glory of it, they must give us leave to re∣turne it home to them againe, howbeit to their losse & discredit too. † 1.32

* 1.33 Answ. 1: Touching the corrupt shifts, which he useth, to justifie civil offices, in Ecclefiastical persons, I will not speak much of it, but doe desire the reader to take knowledge, that the Nonconform.* 1.34 affirme the thing to be utterly unlawfull, and give sundry good reasons for it. 2. Whereas he saith, the same authoritie that permits their ministers to be civill Magistrats, doth permit them to be drunkards, &c. And by the same Law, that their ministers may take vpon them civill Magistracy; any true Pastors may take vpon them the same authoritie. To this I say in his owne words, what a shamelesse man is this to* 1.35 affirme such vntruths: for concerning the first, he slaun∣dereth the state, and in the other he puts the lie on the writings of his brethren, which testifie otherwise. 3. Whether they be made civil Magistrats, by the favour or grace of Princes, as he speakes, or any other way, it is no∣thing to the purpose, seeing the thing in it selfe is eve∣ry way, and alltogether unlawfull. 4. When they have proved themselves to be true Pastors & Teachers, then there willbe a fitt place, to shew, whether the ad∣mitting of a civil office••, doe change the nature of a Church ministery or no.

* 1.36 Here Mr. Bradsh▪ in plaine termes, casteth his brethren off, and good reason too, for he sees, that either he must wholy renounce their Principles, or conclude

with them, that their ministery is unlawfull. But he tels us, that he is not bound to their opinions. Well, neither I thinke are they to his. And now, seeing he, and they, are thus parted, let us a little consider, whose of their opinions, in likelyhood, are the truest, and best, to be embraced. Touching the former, I mean the Non∣conformists (to say nothing of their number, zeale, learning, knowledge, sufferings for the truth, &c. In all which they farre exceeded him,) not onely doe they affirme their ministery to be false; but as I have often said, and also shewed out of their bookes, they prove by good arguments, the thing to be so. But as for Mr. Bradsh. he delivers his opinion upon his owne word, and if we will not take that, we must have nothing: nay truely many times we cannot have his word, sor he turnes his tale so often forward and backward, as no man can tell where, when, or how to beleeve him: For instance, somtime all their ministers are true with him, otherwhile they which be qualifyed only, & such as duly execute their office. Thus he is like to one that hath a mad dog by the eare, and knowes not whether it be best to hold him, or let him goe.

For Mr. Barrow, & Mr. Greenwood, as we will not bind our consciences to their opinions, so neither will we rashly reject the grounds, which they have taught, and given reasons of, unlesse we be able to shew bet∣ter, although Mr. Bradsh. hath dealt thus ilfavouredly with his brethren.

* 1.37 There are fishes name Sepiae (as writers report) who least they should be taken of their pursuers, do cast be∣hinde them abundance of blacke matter, and so escape out of sight. By such a wile Mr. Bradsh. thinkes here to get away from us▪ for with his shifts; and trickes, he puts quite by the matter in hand. But to answer briefe∣ly. 1. There are many hundred Priests in the Land, which have no particular places to serve in: Is their ministery therefore unlawfull? Indeed he seemes here to grant it, as the rest of his brethren doe. 2. Seeing not all (as he confesseth) but some of those that have offices are bound to bee members of true visible Churches. I will leave it in this place as a Quaere, Whether such as nei∣ther are, nor by law are bound to be such, are true Pastors or no? for Mr. Bradsh. had so much forecast, as to say nothing about this thing; howbeit, it was the maine point in question. 3. He takes it for granted, that their Churches are true, but brings no proofe for it: and ex∣cept we will give him all this at once, there is nothing which he speakes to any purpose in the world. But this we cannot give him, though he beg it shamefully,* 1.38 because the thing is otherwise, as their owne writings manifest. 4. What if their Priests be not in all points answerable to their lawes, are they then members of a false Church? indeed either his words cary such a mea∣ning, or to me they seeme non sence. 5. Have not some in the Church of Rome dispensations to have more cures then one? Yes surely; now doe these speciall dispensations make the action lawfull? such an inference Mr. Bradsh. words have, or else the man talkes he knowes not

what. 6. Howsoever the matter be not much, whether the Governement which the Bb. excercise in civil and* 1.39 ecclesiasticall cases, doe impaire the dignity, authority, or supremacy of the civill Magistrate, seeing the same is unlawfull and Antichristian as we have before proo∣ved. Notwithstanding this thing is confidently affir∣med of the Nonconformists, and they give sundry instan∣ces thereof; and therefore the boldnesse of this man is notorious, that he should dare in this manner still to dawbe up the vile things, which his brethren pull downe with both hands.

Some men in matters of controversie, care not (as one saith)* 1.40 though they loose the peace of conscience, so they may gaine their supposed victory. If Mr▪ Bradsh. in judge∣ment came the nearest (as it is reported) of all the Non∣conformists to the separation; surely his soule could have small comfort in this writing, it conteining nothing for the most part, but what is quite contrary to all their sayings otherwhere.

To let passe his idle scoffing, as imputing it to a 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 necessarily attending that pen which under∣takes the defence of such a cause. In these pages he sheweth himselfe a miserable informer and setler of the cons••ience: for his counsell is much to this effect; so a man hold some thing, it is no matter what it be, nor how ungroundedly taken up, to answer his ifs and thoughs, and whats particularly.

First, What if some (saith he) shall say that our Archbb. and Bb. have the Pastors Office? Answere.

Then they shall speake untruely, or else you your selves doe beare false witnesse against them; in affirming, that they are not‡ 1.41 Pastors and Teachers, neither any true ministers at all in the Church of God.

2. What, if one hold, they are not Pastors, but named only so, metaphorically, as Princes are so called? &c. Answ, This were to hold a thing, which is contrarie to their Law, and directly against their profession and prac∣tise.

3. What, if one hold, that the ministers of our particular congregations, are Pastors? Answere. He hath no reason for it, because they have no true calling unto that office, neither doe performe the substanciall duties* 1.42 thereof. When Dr. Burges stiled himselfe Pastor of Sutton Coldfeild. Marke what Dr. Ames writes, in an∣swere to it: It is (saith he) such a name or title as by the* 1.43 Prelates rules, is not admitted, and our booke of ordination acknowledgeth no such Pastors, from whence also it is, that in our convocation church language, we never heare of a Pa∣stor of one Parish alone. None of our divines in the Synod of Dort would take to themselves that title, though most others* 1.44 did in their subscription. D. Andrewes, an Archbishop in esteeme, censureth this title for a Noveltie.

4. What though one hold, that our Archbb. and Bb. are Commissioners and visitors, in causes Ecclesiasticall, vnder the King. Answ. The Magistrate hath no authority from God, to set up such Officers, which shall take into their hands the rights and priviledges, belonging to the whole Church, and therefore whereas he attemp∣teth, both here, and in pag. 35. 36. to justifie the Hierar∣chicall

Government; and by this reason, viz. because they take it from the King. I desire the reader to compare with this base stuffe their former principles, and con∣sider* 1.45 whether there be not probable reasons, to think, that he sinned herein fearefully against his knowledg and conscience.

But to the point in hand, is not here witt, to dispute by ifs & thoughs? Now, I am not of Mr. Bradsh▪ merry dispositiō, to laugh at anothers fault: But truly, if a man were so disposed, his sillie, and childish wordes would give him often occasion enough. For suppose, a Papist should argue, as he doth, What if one should hold, that our Archbb. and Bb. be Pastors, or what &c. would not every one, that seeth it, say, there is in it, neither ryme, nor good reason. If therefore he had not meant a meere gulling and mocking of the world, he would not have taught men to hold this thing, and that, or what they would, without any reason and ground, but have shewed first by the word of God, that the opi∣nions were lawfull and good, which he counselled them to embrace.

After this, he tells us, that some of their Preists and Deacons, are Pastors, & som Teachers; but I have proved the contrarie, and therfore both now, & hereafter doe purpose, to let his idle repetitions passe; onely if I may without offence aske a question of them, seeing Mr. Bradsh. makes here this distinction, and doth often∣times justifie the whole Clergy, by what names or titles soever they be called, I would willingly therefore

know, of what kind their dumb ministery is, whether these S^r. Iohns be Pastors, or Teachers; for if they be true ministers, one of these, they must be necessarily.

* 1.46 Mr. Bradsh. haveing a great desire to justifie their Deaconrie (howbeit, he knew that his brethren had condemned it for a false office, as they have it in their assemblies) demaundeth of us, whether Magistrates may not require some things of Teachers, not required by the A∣postles? Answ. Yes forsooth, but if they require, be∣fore a man shallbe a Teacher, that he enter into the ministery by an unsawfull and Popish vocation, and shall execute afterwards the same in an idolatrous manner, If he in all this doe obey them, he must needs ther∣upon become no true minister; and such is their cause, by their owne confession; And therefore the que∣stion, as he propoundeth it, is deceitfull and imperti∣nent.

Lastly, he excuseth their Preists, which obey the Bb. what obedience (saith he) doe they promise to Prelates, but onely in things, that they shall judge honest, and Lawfull, and not repugnant to the word of God. If this manner of arguing be good, what corruptions so abo∣minable but may get contenance? Vnder such pre∣tences, any Heretick may maintaine the grossest er∣rours, which he holds, and practiseth.

But to let passe any further answer, I desire the reader* 1.47 to take knowledge, that none of the Nonconformists have more effectually condemned their Popish Ceremo∣nies than this man, for he hath by many arguments proved, that the use of them is very sinfull: notwith∣standing

behold his forehead, how in his writing here against us, he seeks by flattering speaches, to justifie the very practise, which he professeth in his writing against the Hierarchie, to be unlawful, idolatrous, antichristian.* 1.48 I may well use the words, which they speake against the Conformists: We abhorre this hypocrisie, and leave such temporising vnto those, which are content, to make themselves the servants of men. But its true, as one saith: Extremitie drives men vnto hard shifts.

* 1.49 Here Mr. Bradsh. bestirreth himself, to prove their ministery good, by the Scribes and Pharisees, but this example will not helpe him in the least.

For first, howsoever they had new names, and in many things were very corrupt, yet they sate in Moyses Chaire,* 1.50 that is, came rightly, and Lawfully, to the Leviticall and Preistly Offices, which they executed in the church of God. But their ministers (as we have shewed it un∣der their owne hands) doe want this true calling, and therefore the comparison holds not. It is possible, that two persons, liveing in adultery, may in sundry respects be no worse, then some, which are truely mar∣ried: Is their state therefore one? not so; and why? because the former wanted a right comming together: So in this cause, in somethings I am perswaded, their ministers are not worse thā the Pharisees,‡ 1.51 as in pride, covetuousnes, hypocrysie, persecution of the saints, &c. yet neverthelesse, their standing (in respect of the mi∣nistery) is not as good, as the Pharisees; because (as I said before) they have not a true calling thereto, which the others had.

2. I cannot thinke, that Mr. Bradsh. should be so ig∣norant, as in this place he makes shew of. For his words import, that the abilitie, which the Pharisees had, to ex∣pound the Law, argued them true ministers: But this is false, for that; and indeed that only, which argued their office to be true, was the Lords institution, in setting the Tribe of Levi apart for the holy administratiōs;† 1.52 of which Family were these,‡ 1.53 so many as were imployed, in, and about the service of the sanctuary.

3. If the preaching of the word and administration of the Sacraments be sufficient, to argue a true mini∣stery; then are not onely many Papists Preists, but other, vile, Heretickes, and excommunicates, Lawfull Pastors and Teachers, for so much they can doe. The truth is, his arguing is no better, then if Ieroboams Preists should thus have pleaded: Those Preists, that teach Iacob* 1.54 Gods judgements, and Israel his Law, that put incense before the face of God, and burne incense upon his Altar, are true Preists; But these things doe we, therfore we are true Preists. If they shall say, the assumption is untrue, the like say we of their cause.

4. Howsoever, he often undertakes, the defence of all their ministers, yet here he leaves the blinde Preists in the ditch: And indeed this is the manner usually of them, they are so shifting up & downe, as a man knows not where there home is, nor when to find them there, for some time the whole Clergie is pleaded for: when they are beaten thence, then they fly to their best mini∣sters; when they cannot defend them any longer, then we have an howers talke of their gifts and services.

Thus as a man that sitteth uneasie, is ever stirring to & fro, till he be out of his place, so doe they shift, and shift, till they be cleane out of their arguments & matter: If they thinke, I speake beyond my compasse, let them once pitch and insist upon any one of these grounds, without starting, joyne issue with us, and come to the particular, that so a directly named position, may re∣ceive a direct and speciall reply.

* 1.55 Answ. 1. There is little hope to finde any good here, seeing so manifest an untruth, is uttered in the be∣ginning. He tels us (if we will beleeve him) that to communicate spiritually with the ministers of Antichrist, in holy things, is not to communicate in his Apostacie. If this be true, then unlawfull ministers, may be lawfully communicated with; but this cannot be, for as it was unlawful to communicate with Corah, or with Vzziah, though they burnt true incense, or with Ieroboams Preists, though they offered true sacrifices, so it is un∣lawfull to communicate, with a devised, or usurped ministery, what things soever, (though good in them∣selves,) are administred in, and by it. And this we for∣merly* 1.56 have proved fully.

2. It is certaine, that the ministery of Preists and Deacons, ordained by Antichrist, is the ministery of his Apostacie, and not Christs, as he prophanely affirmeth: for he makes them not according to the institution, prescribed of God, but wholy after a wicked and dive∣lish device of his owne braine; so that the same is a meere fruite of the Beast and false Prophet, and no acci∣dental effect, but a most cursed thing, which doth as

properly flow from his defection, as figgs from the figg-tree, or a child from the seed of the Parents. As for Luther, Husse, Wickliffe, and others, whereof he speaketh, it is but an absurd and childish begging of the question, seeing it cannot be proved, that they re∣ceived a lawfull ordinary ministery from the Church of Rome.

3. He saith, that the ministerie of such Priests and Dea∣cons, which the Prelates ordaine, are the true ministers of Iesus Christ. What every dumb dog, and all those 60. 80. and a 100. which are made at a clap, and sent forth as rouges and masterlesse servants, to get benefices, where then can, having no particular congregation? &c. Yea now all againe are justified: for he speakes without exception•• or limitation. If I were not unwilling to give occa∣sion unto the Bb. to insult over these mē, I could hence manifest much bad dealing in them, but I will forbeare for the present, and doe referre the reader to their ow•• Principles,† 1.57 which is, that all Ecclesiasticall officers ough•• necessarily to be made by the free choise of the congregation wherein they are to administer. This manner of ordina∣tion, they professe, is only Lawfull, and none else. T•• this ascenteth Dr. Ames, and denies utterly, that the calling of their ministers doth essencially depend upon the Bb▪ calling. Now, what the reason is, that they are thus mu table, it may easily be conceived, namely, the differen condition of the persons▪ against whome they write for if a man should read over their bookes, publisher to the world, against the Hierarchie, he should not (warrant you) heare them once there to say (as heer

they doe) that it is lawfull for their Prelates, to ordaine ministers; but then they will speake out boldly, that this practise is wicked, and unwarrantable, yea and they can upon such occasions give good reasons for it also.

Mr. Bradsh, in page 5. justifieth the ministery of such among them, as are not ordained by the Bb. here he saith that these are the Ministers of Iesus Christ, which receive their ministery from the Bb. yea and from An∣tichrist too, so that it seemes, if men will be Priests of their churches, they may come in any way, and it is no matter how they be ordained, nor who ordaines them, nor whether they be ordained or no: indeed his words imply no lesse, and therefore he must needs be reasonable. But if the Nonconformists should have seene but halfe such rotten stuffe in any. Conformists writings, they would have cried out, and that justly, Dawbing, daw∣bing.

4. He hath little cause to scoffe so idely as he doth, at M^r. Iohns. for the manner whereby he prooves his propositions, considering how he himselfe never brings either Scriptures, Examples, Reasons, or human Testimonies to confirme any one thing whereof he writeth. Hierom speaketh of some who have their Syl∣logismes and argumentations not* 1.58 in mood and figure but in their heeles. M^r. Bradsh. is not much unlike these; for wanting all proofe to make good the points which he boldly affirmeth, he lay••th about him with his heeles, by kicking the person whom he opposeth, with bitter and unchristian floutings. Notwithstanding, the wise∣dome

of God is marvellously here to be seene, which suffered not this man to countenance his corrupt spee∣ches with any weight or shew of arguments, that so it might appeare, to be penned by him, rather for disgrace of others, then defence of themselves, & also that none by it might be deceived, but such as are willing to pluck out their eyes, and to take one that is blinde for their guide and leader.

5. To let passe the unlawfull speach, which they use in ordayning ministers (i. e.) receive the holy Ghost,‡ 1.59 and certaine frothy demaunds, which he moveth, to uphold (if he could) the Bb. Kingdom. The things not beeing worthy of answer. In pag. 38. he bewray∣eth great ignorance, in not putting a difference be∣tweene a minislerie, and the execution of it, for these are two distinct things, and therefore it is possible, that one may be a true Ecclesiastical Officer, and yet never doe the services thereof; as for example, a woman is really a wife, immediately upon her marriage, I say, before she performes any dutie; yea though it should come to passe, that she never performeth any. And therefore Mr. Bradsh. was deceived, to thinke, if one bee a false minister by ordination, that the administration of law∣full things, makes him true; for it is not so. If the Church of Israel should have chosen some, not of Aarons house, but of other Tribes, to be Preists, and they had administred without exception, had these there∣fore been Lawfull Officers? in truth, according to his understanding they had; but herein he grossely erred. Mr. Perkins* 1.60 layes it downe, as one infallible note of a

false Prophet, to come without a calling from God, and from the Church. I pray observe, although a man should execute the ministerie of a Pastor, notwithstanding if he want a lawfull calling, he is still a false minister in the judgement of this author, and I thinke of all wise men, beside Mr. Bradsh.

Againe, if one be ordained a Pastor, accor∣ding to Christs institution, he hath certainly a lawfull ministerie; howsoever, things afterward shall fall out; yea though he should sing Masse and Mattens, as he speaketh; but he asketh, if any, that is in his witts, will say so? yes, and prove it also, and if he himself had not wanted some witt in this point, he would not thus have confounded one thing so absurdly with another▪ for as a person may be a servant or subject truely, & fully, and yet doe afterwards the actions of theeves, re∣bels, Traitors; so a man may take a true ministerie, by ordination, and yet both in life and doctrine doe wic∣kedly, and deserve justly to be deposed.

But I gesse, wherefore he hales-in these foolish posi∣tions; it is probable, he knew wel enough (what gloses so ever he made sometime to the contrarie) that their ordination of Preists & Deacons, by the Prelates, is (as his brethren say) unlawfull and Antichristian; and there∣fore he hoped now to justifie themselves, in regard of their good services: but this will not helpe him neither; for if their administrations were right (which are not) yet would their ministerie be still false, so long as they doe retayne that false calling, which they tooke first of the Bb. they of the Pope, and he from the devill. † 1.61

* 1.62 Ans. 1. As a man, when in his answers, he purpo∣seth to deceive others, his manner is, to conceale that which should give special light unto the matter: It is even so with Mr. Bradsh. that he might meerely gull the reader, he hides from him, whatsoever should most serve for his true information, about the point in dis∣pute. In pag. 7. he tould us, that Pastors and Teachers may have divers accessarie parts of their offices &c. not or∣dayned by Christ. Here he sayth, that they may in divers, and sundry particulars, disobey Christ in his ordinances of worship and Government. Now he doth not expresse in either place, what these divers & particulars are, nei∣ther durst he, I am perswaded, for had he, we should soone have joyned issue with him. But to leave him in the midst of his idle words: this I say, when we un∣derstand once their meaning, they shall have our direct answer unto it. In the meane while, I doe entreat them, to consider advisedly of their owne Principles, about their Worship & Government. Touching the first,* 1.63 it is (as they say) contained, in the booke of common prayer, the which was taken out of the vile Massebooke, full* 1.64 of all blasphemies▪ lyes, and abominations; and the other is taken wholy, and every part from the Pope.

2. To let passe many thinges, which he often af∣firmeth, without any proofe, I doe desire, that they wil shew us, in their next reply, some good reason for that which he writeth in pag. 40. 41. viz. That ministers may execute the ministerie and Government of other Archb••. & Lordbishops besides Christ, be Archdeacons, parsons, vicars, read stinted prayers out of a booke, and observe other humane

inventions, and have their Church Government, according to Canons, Courts, &c. which were never appointed by Christ, and yet obey Christ in all the main, essen••iall, and substanciall points of his ministery, worship, and Government. If they can prove all this, I doe not see, but the controversie may be easily taken up, between them and the Bb. on∣ly then, they have just cause to beg pardon of them, for their pleas against the Prelacie, and the many heavie ac∣cusations, which they have put up, both to Princes & Parliaments, against them. But if they cannot (as I know they cannot) make good the thinge here avou∣ched, then let it ly as a blot for ever upon their cause, for thrusting abroad such deceivable trash, especially upon those, which either were Authors of it, or have since justifyed so hypocriticall and shamelesse a writing.

3. He once more here rejecteth, the Principles of the Nonconform▪ and bidds them, answere for themselves, touching the Suits, which they have putt vp to the Parlia∣ments, for the abolishing of their ministery. Now, the reason why I doe againe note it, is, because the reader may see how impossible it is for any of them, to justi∣fy their standing and writings too; the same beeing as unlike each to other, as good is to evill. For the Pre∣lates laughing, whereof he speakes in this place, I have mentioned it before; this only I add, that never did Mr. Iohns. by his simplicitie and sillinesse of witt, give that occasion unto the Bb. of Mirth, as he hath justly of sorrow to all his brethren, by his dawbing and rotten speaches; for truely in the wordes of Iacob, they may

* 1.65 say, he hath troubled us, to make us, to stinke among the in∣habitants of the Land; yea to increase their greife, as* 1.66 David said of Ahitophel, & Christ of Iudas, so may they speake of him, our familiar freind, in whome we trusted, which did eat of our bread, hath lift vp his heele against vs.

* 1.67 Answ. 1. Mr. Bradsh. sayth, that there is no ordinary ministeriall office, which Christ hath given to his Church, but their ministers either have, or by their Lawes ought to have the same. I have proved before, that this is un∣true, and therefore it is not needfull that I should make answere any more to his bold thredbare, I sayes. But ob∣serve here (to use his owne wordes) what a jugling* 1.68 method of reasoning he hath gotten. Their ministers have such ordinary ministeriall offices, &c. Why? because by their Lawes they ought to have them. Now, may not a man, by the same manner of arguing, prove that there are no Theeves, Traitors, Whoremoungers, &c. with∣in the Kings Dominion, in regard by the Lawes, every one should be true, loyall, chast, &c. But this later, I thinke, would be laughed at of all, notwithstanding to the very same effect, is only the other, or else it serves for no use at all, but to shew, that the man had more will to doe mische••fe, then he had, either witt or skill to accomplish the same.

2. I passe over againe his idle scoffing at Mr. Iohnson, for quotation of many Scriptures. Indeed Mr. Bradsh. was careful to shunne this fault; for he hath not from the beginning, to the end of his book, brought one proofe from the word of God, to make good any one thinge

whereof he speaketh, but as if he were one of the illumated Fathers of the Familists, delivereth his yea & no alwayes upon his owne bare word.

3. Many greivous errours are bound up in this in∣vective of M. Bradsh. but for lying here is one that sur∣mounts them all,; namely, that the Prelates doe not thrust them into a ministery, but leave them to be called and chosen by the people; or those Patrons, vnto whose fidelity the people,* 1.69 have committed this charge. This (as I have shewed) is very false. And truely it is strange to me, that they should dare affirme, so knowne and apparent an un∣truth; for according to their law, profession, and prac∣tise, whosoever is ordained by the Bb. hath immediate∣ly upon his ordination all the essenciall and substan∣cial parts of a minister, is (I say) as true in their under∣standing, as these, which have a people, or have bought benefices of their Patrons; yea although he should ne∣ver have any particular congregation, to administer un∣to. Therefore welfare the Conform. for howsoever, their courses are starke naught, yet they will owne their errours, and not shift them off (as these doe) by groundlesse devises, the which they can no more prove, then that there is a man in the moone. They have la∣boured these many yeares, to get away this power of making ministers from the Bb. But seeing they are now out of all hope to gaine it, they perswade the people, that it is only but a leave & libertie, which the Prelates grant; And touching the ministery itselfe, they have it else where. Oh, horrible mocking and abusing of the world! a meere invention of their owne, haveing

no shew or coulour of truth in it.

4. If the Prelates doe not put them into a ministery, but leave them to be called or chosen by the Patrons, then it must follow necessarily, that either they are made mi∣nisters by those Patrons, or else they are none at all. But this I will leave as another Qu••re. Moreover, because my desire is, to come speedily unto some par∣ticulars with them. I doe therefore demaund some good proofe, for the thinges which this bold man here affirmeth. First, that the people have committed this charge, vnto the fidelity of Patrons. 2. If they have, whe∣ther the thing be lawfull or no? And to give the rea∣der in the mean time some information about the point, this I would have him to know, that howsoever* 1.70 here against us, they plead for these Patrons, yet in their writings against the Prelats, they tell quite another tale, for there they call them all Latrons, and professe their places to be unlawfull and wicked; and give many worthy reasons thereof. And no doubt, this is true, which they say; for indeed, the bondage is intollerable, which the poore enslaved people suffer at these mens hands. If some one in a Parish, had entayled to him and to his heires for ever, the power of appointing husbands and wives to all the people therein, the slave∣ry were unsufferable, although in a matter of a civill nature: but how much more then unspeakably great is their sin, which loose this spiritual freedome! And greater those Patrons, which keepe it: and greatest Mr. Bradsh. and such fellowes, who labour what they can, to maintaine so vile & wicked a thing.

5. Seeing he asketh what errours we can prove in their Church, and is so audatious, as to affirm, that those set downe by Mr: Iohs.† 1.71 are pretended. I will therefore give in som particulars (for it were impossible to name them all) published under their owne handes, and professed of them to be the poysonsome Leaven of Anti∣christ. * 1.72

1. The Popish names, and offices of Archbishops. 2. Lord bishops. 3. Their titles of Primacy, Lords grace, &c. contrarie to the commaundement of Christ. 4. Their visi∣tations▪ and power, which they exercise over their brethren. 5. Their Lordly Dominion, revenues, and retinew. 6. Their black Chym••re, or sleevelesse coat, put vpon the fine white rochet, with other Popish apparel. 7. Chauncellours. 8. Deanes. 9. Subdeanes. 10. Archdeacons. 11. Officials. 12. Chaunters. 13. Commissaries. 14. Pre∣bendaries. 15. Apparitors. 16. Parsons. 17. Vicars. 18. Parish Preists. 19. Idle readers. 20. Vagabound ministers of no place. 21. Chapleynes. 21. Canons. 22. Petty Canons. 23. Virgerers. 24. Rector Chori. 25. Epistlers. 26. Gospellars. 27. Queristers men and boyes. 28. Singing Clarkes. 29. Organists. 30. Organ blowers. 31. Beadmen. 32. Sextins. 33. Impropia∣tions. 34. Ministers, not made, neither by election, voca∣tion, nor aprobation, agreable to Gods word. 35. Deacons, made to other purposes than the scriptures appointe. 36. The horned cap. 37. The tippet. 38. Surpl••sses. 39. Copes in great churches. 40. The t••mporall offices of Ec∣clesiasticall persous. 41. A dumb ministery. 42. The Popes accursed Canon Law. 43. The Prelates articles &

injunctions from time to time newly devised. 44. The Church wardens eath, to present to their courts, all the offen∣ces, faults, and defaults, committed in their Parishes against the aforesaid articles. &c. 45. The court of faculties, from whence are had dispensations, licences, tolerations, &c. 46. Dispensations, to eat flesh, at their times forbidden. 47. And licences, to marie in any time of the year, and in priviledged places, by means wherof, many are maried without their parēts knowledg, or consent, yea and many stolen oftimes from their Freinds, and so maried. 48. Dispensations for boyes and dolts, to have benefices. 49. Dispensations for nonresidents. 50. & for plurality of benefices, as they haveing of 2. 3. 4. or more To••quot, as many as a man will have, or can get. 51. Their institutions, inductions, proxes, &c. 52. Absolving the dead dying excommunicate, before they can have (as they call it) Christian burial. 51. Houseling the sicke. 52. Private Bap∣tisme. 53. Godfathers, and Godmothers. 54. The ring in marriage. 55. Bishopping of children. 55. Churching of we∣men. 56. Prayer over the dead. 57. Lords supper to be re∣ceived kneeling. 58. Lent. fast. 59. Crosse in Baptisme. 60. Hallow eves. 61. Imbring dayes. 62. Frydayes and Sater∣dayes fast. 63. The hallowed font. 63. Marriage forbidden at certaine seasons of the yeare. 64. The oath ex officio. 65. Apccripha bookes, which have in them errours, lies, blas∣phemies, magick, contradiction to the Canonical scriptures. 66. an Antichristian discipline. 67. Private communion. 68. Their administring of it, not with the words of Christs institution, but with other, taken out of the Popes Portuis. 69. Reading homilies. 70. Corrupting the scriptures, in mistranslating many places, adding to the text, and leaveing

quite out many parts thereof.

Many score of vile errours, besides these, I could name, from their writings, but this is enough for the time. Only I request the reader, to observe the bad dealing, which is here shewed. The corruptions, which Mr. Iohnson mentioneth in his trea••ises, to be in the church of England, are only such, which he tooke out of their owne bookes.† 1.73 Yet see, how they will beare now the world in hand, that these are but pretended matters, when indeed (as I said) they are only their owne Prin∣ciples, set forth by their owne hands, and justifyed still upon all occasions, when they deal against the Hierar∣chie. It seemes therefore they are not willing, that any, saving themselves, should say, that their Bb. their Courts, Canons, Officers, Ceremonies, Service, &c. is Antichristian and unlawfull; for if we say but word for word the same, which they say before us: They cry out pretended er∣rours, and yet the things are true when they speake them. Now, if this be not vnreasonable dawbing, I know not what is.

But he asketh, how we can prove, that these things are taught in their Churches? If a Papist should have thus replyed, unto one, which had written against their transubstantiation, images, holy water, &c. it would have been counted an idle and foolish put off; for what if they be not allwayes taught, yet these are their sinnes, in regard they both professe and doe them, and have them established by Law, in their congre∣gations.

The like may be said of the errours, fore named, as authority commaunds them, so they are constantly practised, and upon all occasions defended publikely & privately. Besides, if any one shall open his mouth, to shew the evill of them, he is subject to be immediately sil••need, suspended, excommunicated by the Lords, the Prelates. And to prove this, let their terrible Canons beare witnesse; for thus it is enacted:

* 1.74 Whosoever shall hereafter affirme, that the form of Gods worship in the Church of England, established by law, and conteyned in the book of Common prayer, &c. is a corrupt, superstitious, or vnlawfull worship of God, or conteyneth any thing in it, that is repugnant to the scriptures; let him be excommunicated ipso facto, and not restored, but by the Bishop of the place, or Archbishop, after his repentance and publick revoca∣tion of such his wicked errours.

* 1.75 Whosoever shall hereafter affirme, that the rites and ceremonies of the Church of England, by law establi∣shed, are wicked, Antichristian, or superstitious, or such as being commaunded by lawfull authority, men who are zealously and godly affected, may not with any good conscience approve them, vse them, or as occa∣sion requireth, subscribe vnto them; let him be ex∣communicated ipso facto, and not restored vntill be

repent; and publickly revoke such his wicked er∣rours.

* 1.76 Whosoever shall hereafter affirm, that the govern∣ment of the Church of England, vnder his Majestie, by Archbishops, Bishops, Deanes, Archdeacons, and the rest that doe beare office in the same, is Antichristi∣an, or repugnant to the word of God; let him be ex∣communicated ipso facto, and so continue, vntill be repent and publickly revoke such his wicked er∣rours.

* 1.77 Whosoever shall here after affirm, or teach, that the form and manner of making and consecrating Bishops, Priests, and Deacons, conteyneth any thing in it, that is repugnant to the word of God, &c. let him be excom∣municated ipso facto not to be restored, vntill he re∣pent and publickly revoke such his wicked errours.

6. Where he demaundeth, what one truth of religion we can name, that is not, or hath not beene (when just occa∣sion hath been offered) taught by some of their ministers? Although this be not much materiall, touching the point in controversie, seeing none of them teach true doctrine, but in a false and Antichristian calling, which is utterly unlawfull to be done; notwithstanding if we will beleeve the Nonconform he had small cause to bragg thus of their preaching. For first, their ministers

* 1.78 for the most part are ignorant asses, and loytering idle bel∣lyed Epicures, which either cannot, or doe not teach at all. 2. A number of those, which doe, are prophane, and heathenish Oratours, that thinke, all the grace of prea∣ching lyeth in affected eloquence, in fond Fables, to make their hearers laugh, or in ostentation of learning of the latin, their Greek, and Hebrew tongue, and of their great reading* 1.79 of antiquities: when God knoweth most of them, have little further matter, then is in the in the infinite volumes of com∣mon places, and apothegmes called to their hands. 3. How∣soever some of them deliver many sound truths,* 1.80 yet they doe not lay the axe to the root of the tree, I mean, seeke to suppresse such evills, as raigne most among them. We would repute that Phisitian unwise, which hath a patient under cure sicke of a great fever, and he gives him a medicine, which serves only to heale the gout or dropsie. Now, in truth, such vnwise Phisitians are the best of them: for the main disease, which cleaves to the foule of the people, is false worship. But what course take they about it? Thus they doe: they administer good things, to purge out pride, drunken∣nesse, &c. But leave all the while this Capitall disease alone, by which meanes many persons perish, and are utterly cast away.

Now, these have not the Prophets for an exāple: for it is marvelous observable, when the ten Tribes fell away from the true worship of God, that all those Pro∣phets, whome the Lord then sent early, and late after them, applyed their doctrines even alltoge∣ther (as it were) against the sinnes of Dan and

Bethell:† 1.81 as the spiritual sicknesse of Israel was idolatry, so they gave them constantly such souveraigne medecines, as served best to cure the same; And indeed this course of teaching is onely profitable: for as a small stroake downe-right upon the naile, is better then a thousand besides it: Even so, a little home matter, against the present evils of the people; as namely, their devi∣sed service, false ministery, Antichristian Government, &c, would profit them much more, then all their lowd & long crying out, of judgement, judgement; only against swearers, drunkards, usurers, whoremoungers, &c. be∣cause the former faults are more generally committed, and have taken deeper roote in the hearts of old and young.

7. Concerning the defence, which he makes for reading their booke of Articles and Canons in the church, a few words will serve in answer to it. 1. If it were true, which he saith, that they doe not this thing mi∣nistrially, yet their fault is not the lesse. But he speaketh falsely herein, for this is laid upon them as a proper part of their Office; and none else but they, by their Law, either doe, or may doe the same. 2. If they doe not teach them for truths, then it must be for lies, and er∣rours; if so, their evill is the greater, and proportionable thereunto, without repentance, will Gods vengeance be upon them for it. 3. His answere here, is quite beside the point▪ and he seekes meerly to cozen the reader; that which Mr. Iohnson mentioneth, is their Articles & Canons, very vile and wicked things by their owne confession; To this he replyeth: may not a man in

the weakenesse of his judgement and in infirmity, at his first entrance, into a calling, conforme, and subscribe to some things, not so warrantable and true, &c. Note how punc∣tually he speakes, and comes up, as neere to the matter, as Yorke is to the Lands end, a man in the weakenesse of his judgement, &c. may doe some thing, &c. Ergo, he may conforme to the damnable Canons, and articles, read them to the people, &c. By the same manner of arguing▪ he may be a ••ew, a Turke, a Heathen▪ any thing. And not only in this place, but such sencelesse shifts are common with him, throughout the booke; for whereas it is proved in Mr. Iohnsons writing, that their ministery is ••nlaw∣full & Antichristian, because neither their Offices, cal∣ling, nor administration, is according to Gods Word, but (as they say themselves) all taken from Antichrist. He childishly tells us, that true Pastors & Teachers may want some accessarie parts of their Offices, &c. which answereth nothing to the point; nor is more to any purpose, then if a convicted traitor would seek to prove his cause, to be otherwise, for that he wants som accessarie parts of a true subject. 4. Touching the distinction which he puts betweene reading the Canons to the people, and not teaching the ••rrours contained in them. I shall leave it, as another Demaund: how they can proove, that these falshoods and lies may be read in the manner that they are, and yet be neither taught nor justi∣fyed?

* 1.82 Answ. 1. If it be vnlawfull (as he sayth) outwardly, and but in appearance to joyne with Idolaters in their Idola∣try, then hath he shewed himseIfe all this while an

vnreasonable man, to pe••swade us to returne againe unto their service, considering if we should, it were upon their owne grounds, to joyne with Idolaters in Ida∣latry; but this we dare not doe, neither I thinke would they, if they did feare the Lord and his righteons judg∣ments, as they should, and mind advisedly their owne writings. They have a long time beene named Pro∣fessours, and fitly so: for truely, their profession is good,† 1.83 and therefore in this, they and we doe well ac∣cord, as I have before shewed: But those, which willbe Christians indeed, must be more than Professours, to weet, practisers, and doers of all the Lords com∣maundements, so farre as they know, according to their power & abilitie.

2. I would know, what scriptures there are, which doe witnesse, that there was false worship in the Iewish Synagogues, and of what kind it was, and proofe also that Christ was present, where, and when the same was practised. These Doctrines we finde often in their bookes against us, but to this day never saw their rea∣sons for them; and therefore we are perswaded, they are meerely their owne dreames, purposely taken up, to countenance by them, if they could, their insincere walking.

3. I cannot see what profit any reader can have by Mr. Bradsh. writing; for whofoever desires to know what ministers are true among them: First, he must (if he will follow his direction) search their Lawes, to know what is their pres••rib••d about this thing; after∣ward, make diligent inquirie of the true meaning ther∣of,

then goe among the Clergy, to examin, whose office, calling, and administration, is according to the Law and the intent of it.* 1.84 Now, is not he vnreasonable, to put poore people upon such hard taskes; notwithstanding unlesse they doe all this, they are as farre to seeke in the thing, as ever they were; for any satisfaction he gives them; But no doubt, if Mr. Bradsh. had had a good cause in hand, he would have referred his reader to the Prophets, Christ, & his Apostles, and not used such carnal & idle talke.

4. He saith, it is lawfull to communicate in that Worship Where the Ceremonies are vsed; but we cannot beleeve him, for his brethren both affirm, and prove the con∣trary. And here now is a fist place, to write downe the wordes, whereof mention was made in page 99. partly, because the author is a principal Nonconfor∣mist, and partly to discover the rashnesse and folly of this inconsiderate man, which durst without any rea∣son, (more then boldnesse) still justifie the very things, which his brethren, by many sound Arguments, have manifested to be evil and unlawfull. Thus he writes:

* 1.85 The sitter is accessorie to the sinne of the kneeler. First, he endureth the kneeler by his presence, and maketh him thinke, that his kneeling is neither scandalous nor idolatrous. You say, your sitting condemneth his kneeling. No such matter. But in communicating with him, you approve it as indifferent, as when ye sit in time of prayer af∣ter Sermon, When another is kneeling, or standing▪ For shall you communicate With an idolater in the very

act of his Idolatrie? and not be accessarie in counte∣nancing it With your presence. If you doe damne it as scandalous, or idolatrous, Why communicate you with bim? If you build vp that, which you destroyed, you make your selfe a irespasser. The Apostle forbiddeth the Corinthians to converse, or eate With a brother ido∣later, 1. Corinth. 5. and yet you will eate and drinke With him, When he is committing the very act. The Apostle forbiddeth not societie With him in publick As∣semblies, but onely in private, and Where he commit∣teth the act, till he be reclaimed. Next, the commu∣nicant with the kneeler casteth himselfe into tentation, by setting before him an evill example, Which may in∣duce him to doe the like, especially, if the kneeler be a person of any credit and countenance. Many are dis∣quieted With the sight of a monster, or carcasse many moneths after. It is an evill token, When you can be so Well content to see such a monster in our Kirk, and your heart not rise Within you. If you should present your solfe to the Masse in the same manner, and With the same liberty, custome would so harden the heart, that in the end you would halt With the lame, and conforme in every point. It will creepe like a Ring-Worme: seemeth it now tollerable, the next day it Will seeme holy, and the third day necessa••ie. So bewitching sinnes are idolatry and superstition. Third∣ly, you are partaker of an Idoll feast. Start not at this I say: for the Sacrament of the Lords Supper may be turned into an idoll feast, and hath been a more ab∣hominable feast then ever Was any among the Heathens.

And howbeit, there may be some difference betwixt the Formalists, and the Papists, arising upon the diversitie of in∣ward opinions and conceits of Christs reall presence in the Elements, yet if both their gestures be idolatrous in their* 1.86 owne kindes, the Lords Supper is made an idoll feast. Non ad diabolum pertinet quis isto, vel illo modo erret, om∣nes errantes vult quibuslibet erroribus. It is nothing to the Devill, whether a man erre this way, or that way what∣soever way they erre, all that be in errour, he seeketh to be his. Fourthly, the communicant advanceth this innova∣tion, and setteth forward this grosse corruption by his pre∣sence and communicating with the kneeler. For if the knee∣ler•• were left to themselves, they would be ashamed of them∣selves▪ whereas now they are comforted, and hardened in their sinne, and some follow their example. Fides pura* 1.87 moram non patitur ut apparueri•• scorpius, illico conte∣rendus est. Pure faith suffereth no delayes. As soon as the the scorpion appeares, it is to be bruised saith Hierom. Fourthly, a confusion of gestures lawfull, and vnlawfull, is brought into the Lords table, some sitting like ghuests at a Feast, as Christ and his Apostles sate; others like supplicants kneeling and adoring vpon the knees. This confusion is not like that varietie of gesture, in time of prayer, when some sitte, some stande, some kneele. For all the three gestures are there indifferent. But not so heere.

If men are polluted, by receiving the Sacrament with those which kneel, then much more, when with∣all they take it where the same is administred, by an unlawfull person, and according to a prescript form••,

culled out of the blasphemous Massebooke. And this is their present cause, by their owne confession; I wish therefore, they would take due consideration of it, and speedily reforme themselves herein. They professe to be espoused unto Christ: Now, marke the similitude, if a betrothed virgin, before the day appointed for marriage, should prostrate her body to a stranger, she disables herselfe for ever hereby from being his wise: Their marriag day, they make account, shalbe celebra∣ted in Heaven; But now, if in the mean while, they defile their soules and bodies with the uncleane acts of Idolatry, what reason have they to think, that they shal enjoy the sweet comfort, and pleasure of so heavenly & blessed a husband.

* 1.88 Answ: 1. Though it should be granted, that in a true constituted Church some matters incerely Ecclesiastical may be imposed through humane srailty; yet this helpeth* 1.89 their cause nothing at all; in regard, that a false wor∣ship, an Antichristian Hierarchy, or Church Govern∣ment, and unlawfull ministery therefrom derived, is imposed upon, and by the people slavishly submitted unto.

2. Though every humane Ordinance be not of that na∣ture, as to make that Church and Ministery false, where it is vsed; yet some are, or else there are no false Churches and Ministers in the world; and such humane Ordi∣nances, there be many in their Parish Assemblies, as from their owne Principles, we have shewed.

3. Though it were generally granted of all, that thoses Churches and Ministeries are to be communicated

with all that have some thing in, or appertaining to the constitution thereof not instituted by Christ; yet it will not thence follow, that we may with such, as in their constitution were wholy false; but such are theirs.

4. Grant this, that all are not false Churches, which doe not, or by the Laws of man are not suffered to vse their power. Notwithstanding such congregations, as doe al∣together* 1.90 want this power, and stand under that, which was taken every part from the Devill & Antichrist, are certainly false, and so not to be communicated with all; And this is their present state, if they speake truely themselves.

5. Admitt, that those may be true Pastors, who are out∣wardly by mans Lawes subjected to a superiour Ecclesiastical Officer.* 1.91 Yet can it not hence be concluded, that their ministers are true, seeing neither their Offices, cal∣ling, administrations, &c. are agreable to the word of God.

6. If the Offices of Provincial and Diocesan Bishops be contrarie to the Scripture, then necessarily that ministe∣ry, which is derived from it, must be so also. And this conclusion the Papists have drawne from the writings* 1.92 of the Conformists. If our English Prelates be no true Bishops, then surely neither be the Preists, or Ministers, or Deacons, that be ordained by them; and so consequently the congregation of England, is not the true Church of Christ.

Here we have againe much rude scoffing, and such crowing (to use his owne termes) as if he were some

cock of the game, that hath picked out the eyes, and broken the neckes of all that have beene set against him. The proposition (sayth he) is false, the Assumption is false, the consequence is false. But for proofe, a man may finde assoon a needle in a bottle of hay, as any for the things which he boldly denyeth. Moreover, the points in controversy, which are of greatest weight, & moment, he either puts quite off, by a fine trick, they* 1.93 need no answer, or else answereth to them, besides the matter. For an instance to this purpose, writeth Mr. Iohnson: Every true visible Church of Christ, or ordinary Assemblie of the faithfull▪ hath by Christs ordinance power in it selfe immediately vnder Christ, to elect and ordaine, de∣prive, and depose their ministers, and to execute all other Ec∣clesiastical Censures. But none of the Parish Assemblies of England have such power: Therefore they are not true vi∣sible Churches of Christ.

Both parts of this reason he proves from their owne writings; now marke his reply to it: All are not false Churches, which doe not vse this power, &c. And is not this (thinke ye) wittily answered? We say from their Principles, that a true Church cannot be without power; But their Churches are wholy without it. For answere, he tels us, a true Church m••y want the vse of it. We say so too. But doth it follow, because a man in a sound, hath not the use for the time, of that life, which is in him; therfore one may be quite without life & yet not dead. To this effect he reasoneth, or else (as Paul sayth of* 1.94 som) he understood not what he said, nor wherof he af∣firmed, but spake evil of the things which he knew not. * 1.95

* 1.96 Mr. Bradsh▪ having used all the witt and skill he had to refute the former Reasons: in these pag. in a moc∣king contradiction of Mr. Iohnson, he undertakes to prove that the publick ministery of the Church Assemblies of England, is true and lawfull. I have neither time nor mind, to follow him in his vagaries, & idle repeti∣tions, but will set downe, in few wordes, the summe of his long talke, and give answer to it breifly. First, thus he sayth:

To have such gifts, as Christ ascended to heaven, for the worke of his ministery, to be outwardly called to that worke, by such a Church as professeth the fundamentall points of the Gospell; to instruct the people committed to their charge, in the Doctrine of the Law and Gospell: to administer vnto them the holy Sacraments of Christ, and to be their mo••th in prayer vnto God are all the things essencial, appertaining to the office of true Pastors and Teachers. Such is the ministe∣ry of our assemblies.

Howsoever. I will not contend much with him a∣bout the Proposition, which is lame to the ground; and a farre better might have beene framed breifly thus: To have such an office, as Christ in his Testament hath given to his Church; a lawfull calling and enterance therevnto, and a lawfull administration thereof, according to the said Testament, are all the essencial, &c.

The Assumption is false. 1. Their ministers have not the gifts, whereof he speaketh, and so we have ma∣nifested from their owne writings. 2. I doe denie, that their Bb. of whome they take their ministery, are* 1.97 a Church in any sence, saving the malignant, and there∣fore

if all the rest were granted, yet hence would his whole argument (like the unwise mans house) fall to* 1.98 the ground. 3. Though they instruct the people in some Doctrines of the Law and Gospell, as doe Papists & all other Hereticks; notwithstanding the reading of the Servicebooke, in forme and manner, the celebra∣ting of marriage, Churching of women, burying of the dead, conformity, and subscription, are more essencial to their ministery, & more necessarily required by the Lawes of their Church, then preaching either of the Law and Gospell is. And so much Mr. Bradsh. else∣where affirmeth: Those that yeeld to Ceremonies, need not preach at all in their Churches, except they will, no nor doe any other part of divine service, if they will maintaine a Curate, that will keepe the Ceremonial Law, and fairely read or singe the Kinges Service, as they call it.† 1.99 4. For the Sacraments, they are (as they say) wickedly mingled, and prophaned, and wickedly administred. Be∣sides, if we will beleeve Mr. Bradsh. when he speakes out against the Hierarchy, they have divers Sacraments, which are not of divine institution, administred in their* 1.100 Churches, viz. the Crosse, Ring in marriage, Surplesse, &c. 5. The prayers, which they are to make unto God, must of absolute necessitie (without partiall, dispen∣sation, or manifest violation of their oath to the Bi∣shops) be foolish, false, and superstitious. ‡ 1.101

But I desire the reader to observe how wittily he confirmeth the Assumption. It shall be sufficient (sayth he) that we can set forth vnto him such a ministery in sun∣drie of our Church Assemblies, of which all those points may

be truely verified. Who would have thought that Mr. Bradsh. having blotted many leaves of his booke, with meere scoffing at Mr. Iohnson, about his Logick, should so grossely overshoot himselfe in termes of reasoning. For what wise man, but he, would have laid downe a Position, that comprehended indefinitely, & generally all the ministers of their Assemblies; and to prove it, saith, we can shew some such. It seemeth then, that those (some such) must make all the rest true. Intruth, so he inferres, or else his argument (as he saith often of Mr. Iohnson) is crackt braind, and lacks not truth only, but sence also.

There are some merchants, who to put off the false wares, which lie upon their hands, will shew the buyer a little that is good, and by this meanes cunningly shift all the rest upon him, and so deceive him: The like subtilty useth Mr. Bradsh. here, and often in his booke, that he might perswade the reader to beleeve that all their Ministers and Churches are true, he shew∣eth him some of the best; in hope that under these, he shall craftily put all the rest upon him. I mention these his deceiveable shifts the oftner, that we may have here∣after more honest dealing. If they will justifie all their Ministers and Churches, let them say so directly; If but som few, as in their writings they still intimate, I desire them to speake it out plainely, and not to cary the thing so covertly, as if they would have the poore people to beleeve, that they meant all, when them∣selves are perswaded the greatest number are false and Antichristian.

Another reason, which he brings, to prove their mi∣nistery Lawfull, is, because they professe the Pope to be An∣tichrist; renounce all Ecclesiastical homage to him, and main∣taine all the members of the Church of Rome to be Hereticks and Idolaters. &c. To this I say, quid verba audiam cum facta videam. It is true, I know, many great er∣rours of that Church, they opppose and have left, not∣withstanding, they retaine the selfe same Ministery, Church Government, Service, Courts, Canons, &c. which they brought out from thence, uphold them still (I say) to the uttermost of their strength and power; and hate, revile, imprison, banish kill, &c. those which will not conforme thereto. And hence it is* 1.102 the Papists say, that from their treasure house, the religion now established in England, hath learned the forme of Chri∣ning, marying, Churching of women, visiting of the sicke, burying of the dead, and sundry other like, as the book (trans∣lated* 1.103 out of theirs) declared. So Iacobus Gretzerus al∣leadgeth against the Reformed Churches their Service∣booke, for their Popish holydayes, D^r. Tucker, and their Late booke of Canons, both for the signe of the Crosse, for kneeling in the act of receiving the Sacrament. For the whole Hierarchy, from the Archbishop downewards, & divers other their superstitions. So Cornelius Scul∣tingius† 1.104 citeth Whitgift, and taketh whole leaves out of him, for defence of their Hierarchie.* 1.105 Stapleton also useth the foresaid Doctors arguments, to uphold thereby their discipline, and professeth, that they are built upon one foundation. I could multiply authors

of this nature,‡ 1.106 but it needs not, only let it be here minded, that all these testimonies are acknowledged to be true of the Nonconformists. Is not therefore their profession great against the Pope: they clal him (they say) Antichrist and the Beast, &c. Yet not∣withstanding in respect of many maine and founda∣mental Orders, and Ordinances of his Church, they wallke along hand in hand with him. So that, they are much like to one, which cals a woman, &c. Whoore, Whoore, and lyeth with her all the while in the bed, and commits folly with her.

* 1.107 Nothing is here said, but the former thinges againe repeated. Indeed, he undertooke to answer certaine demaunds, but he kept himselfe off, so covertly from the points, that he hath left them farre more obscure & darke then they were before. For this cause I have thought it necessarie to propound unto them 13. que∣stions, all gathered from Mr. Bradsh. shifting answeres, & idle putt offs, with request, that they would answere them directly and sincerely, and from the scriptures; and so doubtlesse the controversie betweene them & us will be brought the sooner to an end.

1. Whether the office of Lecturers in the Ecclesia∣stical Assemblies of England, be not new, and strange from the scriptures? If not, whether they be Apostles, Evangelists, Pastors, Teachers, Elders? &c.

2. Whether the civill Magistrate hath power to set over the Churches of Christ, in his Dominions,

such Commissioners and overseers, as the present Hierarchie is, or no?

3. What be those Ecclesiastical Officers, which some true Churches in England, have these many yeares beene without, either all, o•• cheifest of them?

4. Whether the calling, enterance, administration, and maintenance of any of the publicke Ministers of the Church of England, be unlawful, and Antichri∣stian, or no?

5. Who are those Ecclesiasticall Officers, in the Church of England, which neither in name, nor in deed, are true, as he himself confesseth?

6. Whether it be lawfull for the Ministers of the Gospell, to be maintained by tithes and offerings, &c. in the manner and forme, as it is practifed now in Eng∣land, or no?

7. Whether all the Parish Assemblies of England be true visible Churches or no?

8. Where are those Churches in our Kingdom, from whence we have separated, which doe consist, as now they stand, of a companie of people, called, and separa∣ted from the world, and the false worship, and wayes thereof, by the word of God, and are joyned together in the fellowship of the Gospel, by voluntarie profes∣sion of faith, and obedience of Christ?

9. What are those parts and parcells, in the booke of Common prayer, which is not the true worship of God, whereof he speaketh?

10. Whether it be Lawfull, to have communion

with the English Leiturgie, as it is ordinarily now used in their Churches?

11. If the true worship of God be prescribed, in the booke aforesaid, we demaund then in what part there∣of the same is contained?

12. Whether those, which joyne to the Ecclesiasti∣cal Ministerie, Worship, and Orders of their Cathedral or Parishional Assemblies in those things, which are not performed therein, according to the true meaning & intent of their Lawes, doe sin, or no?

13. What is the true intent and meaning of these Lawes, and to whom doth it properly belong, to give the interpretation of them?

Thus having finished, what I purpose to write for this time, I commend now the same to the best accep∣tance of every wel disposed reader. Beseeching God to make us more and more of one mind in the truth, and to give us all hearts, to walke sincerily in it, untill our changing come.

ISA. 48. 18, 19, 20.

O that thou haddest hearkened to my commaundements, then had thy peace been as a River, and thy righteousnesse as the waves of the Sea. Thy seed also had been as the sand, and the off-spring of thy bowels like the gravel thereof: his name should not have been cut off, nor destroyed from before me. Goe ye forth of Babilon, flee ye from the C••ldeans▪ &c.

FINIS.

Notes

• * 1.1

  Pag. 54.
• * 1.2

  August. contro. maxim. l. 3, c. 14
• * 1.3

  Orig. Ho∣mil. 9. in Ier. Panormit. de elect. & ele. potest. c. signif. Fresh suit, l. 2, p. 351
• a 1.4

  Defence of the A∣polog. of the chu. of Eng. p. 619
• b 1.5

  Mr. Hutton against the minist. of Devon, & Cornwal, p. 9, & p. 151 the 7. confideration. Stones Serm. on Psa. 120.
• c 1.6

  Sprint
• * 1.7

  Answ. to pag. 1.
• * 1.8

  1 Pet. 3. 9. Rō. 13, 21,
• * 1.9

  1 Cor. 7.
• * 1.10

  Answ. to pag. 2, 3.
• * 1.11

  Reply to D. Morton pa. 85.
• * 1.12

  P. 9, 11, 39.
• * 1.13

  Vnto p. 4.
• * 1.14

  See Treat. of the mi∣nist. of the Church of Eng. page 98, 99, &c.
• * 1.15

  Prov. 30. 18, 19.
• * 1.16

  Pag. 15, 16, 43.
• * 1.17

  To the 5, 6, 7. pages.
• * 1.18

  Pag. 44. 45, 46.
• * 1.19

  To pag 7, 8, 9.
• * 1.20

  See p. 34, 35
• * 1.21

  So is the Pope called by the Holy Ghost, in Rev. 17, 5
• * 1.22

  P. 139, 140
• * 1.23

  P. 78.
• * 1.24

  To pa. 10.
• * 1.25

  1. Adm.
• † 1.26

  Rev. 17, 16. 1 Tim. 2, 2 Rom. 13, 4 Deut. 12, 2 P••a. 72, 1
• * 1.27

  Pag. 87.
• * 1.28

  To pa. 13.
• * 1.29

  Syons plea p. 4.
• * 1.30

  Remove. imputati∣ons from the minist. of D. and Cor. p. 36
• * 1.31

  Apoll. de Orig. Deorum l. 3.
• † 1.32

  This is the book, which Mr. Pag. up∣braides us, with, Ar. ag. Separ. p. 38.
• * 1.33

  To 14, 15 pag.
• * 1.34

  T. C. the rest of the second re∣plie, p. 1, to 31. Mr. Bates 73, 74, &c. Course of Confor∣mitie, p. 20
• * 1.35

  P. 11.
• * 1.36

  To 16, 17 pag.
• * 1.37

  To Page 18, 19, 20, 21.
• * 1.38

  See before page 169. &c.
• * 1.39

  Re moove imputat. from mi∣nist. of C. D. pag. 46 Syons plea pag. 4. Page 34, 35 147▪ Protestat▪ from Scot. pag. 88, 89, &c. Altare Damas••. 57, 58, &c.
• * 1.40

  Intus in animo perdant, modo vi∣ctores ab∣scedant. Ambro••. To page 22, 23, 24, 25, 26.
• ‡ 1.41

  Defen. Eccle. dis. ag. Bridg. pag. 88, 89 Pref. Dio. Strif. of the Ch. Repr. Mart. Iun. pag. 12. Mr. Bates, pag. 55.
• * 1.42

  In title page of his Rej.
• * 1.43

  Fresh suit l. 1▪ p. 5.
• * 1.44

  Resp. ad Epist. 1. Ma.
• * 1.45

  See before p. 34, 35, 147.
• * 1.46

  See before p. 48.
• * 1.47

  See Mr. Bradsh. 12 general Argumēts against Ce∣remonies.
• * 1.48

  Remove. imput. frō the minist. of D. and C. p. 22. Fresh suit l. 2, p. 184.
• * 1.49

  To p. 27, 28, 29.
• * 1.50

  See Pa∣reus in Mat. 23, v. 2, p. 578.
• ‡ 1.51

  Yet the Nonconf. say, they are worse, see page 15, 16.
• † 1.52

  Exo, 28, •• Mal, 2, 4▪ 5 Heb. 5, 4.
• ‡ 1.53

  Ioh. 1. 19 with 24.
• * 1.54

  Deu. 33, 10
• * 1.55

  To p. 30. 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37.
• * 1.56

  Pag▪ 27, 28
• † 1.57

  1 Admo. p. 3. Offer for Confer. p. 2. N••ces▪ dis. p 2••. T. C. ••. 1, p. 193, Eccle. dis. p. 40. Mr. Bates, p. 66. Demon. dis. p. 24, 25. Def. Adm▪ p. 2.
• * 1.58

  Non in modo & figura, sed in calci∣bus.
• ‡ 1.59

  T. C. ••. 1, pag. 6••, &c. Altar. Da. pa. 165.
• * 1.60

  Exposi¦tion upon Mat. 7. ver. 16, pag. 239. Last volu.
• † 1.61

  This is no other∣wise, then according to their owne Te∣nets; for they say: Whatso∣ever com∣meth frō the Pope, which is antichrist, commeth first from the devill.
• * 1.62

  To pag. 39 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47.
• * 1.63

  See before pag. 72, 78
• * 1.64

  P. 138, 147
• * 1.65

  Gen. 34, 30
• * 1.66

  Psa. 41. 9.
• * 1.67

  From pag. 48. to 67.
• * 1.68

  Pag. 52.
• * 1.69

  P. 56, 57, 58.
• * 1.70

  An••tomy of Cere. made by Mr. Sprint before de∣fore def. of Pet. to the K. Learn. dis∣cours. of▪ Eccl. Gov. p. 125. M. Bright. on Rev. 3, p. 194, Edit. 3. Alt. Dam. p. 170.
• † 1.71

  An answ. to Mr. H. Iacob. his defen. of the Chur. and minist. of Eng. page 63, 64. A treatise of the mi∣nist. of the church of Eng. p. 10, 11, 12, &c.
• * 1.72

  M. Gilby in the table, Luk. 22, 2••
• † 1.73

  Namely, the Ad∣monition to the Par∣liament, sold, sold. Bar. Tabl. T. C. his first and second re∣ply. Neces. dis.
• * 1.74

  Canon. 4.
• * 1.75

  Canon. 6.
• * 1.76

  Canon. 7.
• * 1.77

  Canon, 8.
• * 1.78

  2 Admon. p. 47. Asser. Christian. Ch. pol. 236.
• * 1.79

  2 Admon. p. 52.
• * 1.80

  Out of their own mouth, they con∣demne many times their sinfull practises. 1 Sam. 12, 5
• † 1.81

  Read the Prophe∣sies of Ho∣sea, Ioel, Amos, and Michea, who were Prophets, especially ray sed up, to reco∣ver that people.
• * 1.82

  From pa. 68, to 83.
• † 1.83

  When they write against the Prelates.
• * 1.84

  Quaere. To whom must men goe, to know the true mea∣ding of the Law.
• * 1.85

  A dispute upō com∣munica∣ting, at cō∣fuled cō∣munions, pag. 68, 69, &c.
• * 1.86

  August. hom. de Pastor.
• * 1.87

  Hieron. ad Ioannē Hierosol.
• * 1.88

  From pag. 84, to 92.
• * 1.89

  See chap. 2. Sect. 2, 4 and ch. 3. Sect. 2, ch. 1, Sect. 2 4.
• * 1.90

  P. 149, &c.
• * 1.91

  But for this thing I shall exspect, to see some proofe.
• * 1.92

  A detec∣tion of divers no∣table un∣truths, &c. p. 188, &c.
• * 1.93

  P. 83, 88.
• * 1.94

  1 Tim. 1, 7
• * 1.95

  Iud. 10.
• * 1.96

  Answ. •••• p. 92. 100.
• * 1.97

  Psa. 26, 5.
• * 1.98

  Mat. 7.
• † 1.99

  you must observe, he wrote this a∣gainst the Bb. 11. Ar∣gum. ag. Cerem.
• * 1.100

  9. Argum.
• ‡ 1.101

  I mean, whē they read their service∣booke. 2 Admon. pag. 57
• * 1.102

  Pap. supp. an. 1604. Reas. of religiō. 13
• * 1.103

  Panegyr. Missae, cap. 11, 12. and De∣monst. dogm. cap. 7.
• † 1.104

  In his Hierarchi∣ca Anacri∣sis.
• * 1.105

  Relect. against Whitak. cont. 2. q. 3 art. 3.
• ‡ 1.106

  Rhemist. in 10. 21, 17.
• * 1.107

  Answ. to p. 100. 110