The defense of the aunsvvere to the Admonition against the replie of T.C. By Iohn VVhitgift Doctor of Diuinitie. In the beginning are added these. 4. tables. 1 Of dangerous doctrines in the replie. 2 Of falsifications and vntruthes. 3 Of matters handled at large. 4 A table generall.

Additions, detractions, and alterations in the first part of the Admonition.

In the Preface.

In the margent, for the. 15. of Mathew. vers. 23. they haue quoted the. 15. of Math. vers. 13. to proue that tyrannous Lordship cannot stand with Christs kingdome: the wordes be these: But he ansvve∣red and sayd, enery plant vvhich my father hath not planted, shall be rooted vp, meaning that such as be not by free adoption and grace grafted in Jesus Christ, shall be rooted vp. But this proueth not their propo∣sition: I do not alow tyrannous Lordship, but I disallow such vnapt reasons.

In the same Preface speaking of Bishops. &c. they haue added these wordes: they were once of our minde, but since their consecration they be so transubstantiated, that they are become such as you see. It may be that considera∣tion of the tyme, place, state, condition, and other circumstances hath altered some of them in some poynts, as wise (and not wilfull) men in such matters by such circumstances be oftentimes altered: but that any one of them were euer of your minde in most things vttered in those two treatises, I can not be perswaded.

Fol. 1.

For the. 1. Act. vers. 12. is noted. Act. 2. vers. 2〈1 line〉〈1 line〉. to proue that in the olde Church there was a try all had both of the Ministers abilitie to instruct, and of their godly conuersation also. The text is this: And it shall be that vvhosoeuer shall call on the name of the Lorde shall be saued. Which is farther frō the purpose a great deale, than the other place is. There is also in the same leafe left out, King Edwards Priests: whiche* 1.1 argueth with howe little discretion, and lesse aduise, the first Admo∣nition was pe〈1 line〉〈1 line〉ed.

Speaking of learning master Nowels Catechisme, these wordes be added: and so first they consecrate them, and make them Ministers, and then they set them to schoole. This scoffe is answered before, and might very well* 1.2 haue bene left out. And a little after, where it was before, then election

was made by the common consent of the whole Church: now it is thus corrected,* 1.3 then election was made by the Elders, with the common consent of the whole Churche: which altereth the matter something, but yet is not proued by the text alleaged out of the first of the Acts, and by me answered before.

Fol. 2.

For Act. 14. verse. 13. is quoted Act. 14. verse. 23. which ouersight I my selfe haue corrected in my answere to that place.

There is also left out an Albe, which before was sayde to be required* 1.4 by the Pontificall in the ordering of ministers. As I sayde before, so I say agayne, that in the booke of ordering ministers, now vsed, and printed since Anno dom. 1559. there is neyther required albe, surples, vestiment, nor pastorall staffe.

This lyne is also added, these are required by their Pontifical, meaning sur∣plesse, vestiment. &c. which is vntrue, as I haue sayde before.

For the. 1. Tim. 1. verse. 14. nowe it is. 1. Tim. 1. verse. 19. but it is not to proue any matter in controuersie, onely it is vncharitably and vniustly applyed.

For. 1. Sam. 9. verse. 28. is placed. 1. Sam. 9. verse. 18. the selfe same place that I haue answered before.

Where before it was thus written: Then ministers were not so tyed to any forme of prayers inuented by man: nowe these wordes inuented by man be lefte out, and there is added, as necessitie of tyme required, so they mighte poure. &c. I knowe not their meaning, excepte they woulde neyther haue vs bounde to the Lordes prayer, nor any other.

Fol. 3.

It was before, remoue Homilies, Articles, Iniunctions, a prescript order: nowe* 1.5 it is that prescript order. Wherby it should seeme that they haue learned to allowe of a prescript order of prayers, but not of that prescript or∣der which is in the booke of publike prayers. This is no dallying, neyther yet inconstancie.

For the. 3. of Mat. ver. 12. is placed. 3. of Mat. ver. 1. to proue that in the olde time the word was preached before the sacramēts were mi∣nistred: the place now alleaged is this: In those dayes Iohn the Bap∣tist came and preached in the vvildernesse of Iudea. This proueth that Iohnpreached, but it proueth not, that whensoeuer Iohn did bap∣tise, then he did preache.

Oueragaynst these words, the Nicene creede was not read in their cōmunion,* 1.6 is written in the margent, Note that we condemne not the doctrine conteyned therein. If you condemne not the doctrine therin, what do you then cō∣demne? or why mislike you the cōmunion, bicause that creede con∣teyning true doctrine is read at the celebration therof? It is well that you make this protestation, if you meane good fayth.

Here is also added the. 42. ver. Act. 2. to proue that then the sacra∣ment was ministred with cōmon & vsual bread: which place I haue answered before, in answering to the. 46. verse of that chapter.

Where as before it was thus, interrogatories ministred to the Infant, Godfa∣thers* 1.7 and Godmothers brought in by Higinus: nowe Godfathers and Godmothers brought it by Higinus is left out. It is happy that you are sosoone persua∣ded to

allow of godfathers and godmothers: I perceyue you tooke vpon you to set downe a platforme of a Church, before you had well considered of it.

Fol. 4.

For, some one of the congregation, is nowe, some of the congregation: wherby they seeme to allowe mo godfathers than one, whiche they dyd not before.

For the. 14. of the Acts, verse. 4. is noted the. 15. of the Acts, vers. 4. to proue that the office of Seniors was to gouerne the Church with the rest of the ministers: but without reason. For it is onely there written, that at Ierusalem there was Apostles and Elders, & that Paule and Barnabas declared vnto them what things God had done by them. I denie not the thing it selfe (whereof I haue suffici∣ently spoken before) but the argument.

These Seniors then bicause their charge was not ouer muche, did execute their office in their owne persons: Nowe these words, bicause their charge was not ouer much be lefte out. Wherfore they haue left them out I knowe not.

Fol. 5.

They haue lefte out Doctors three tymes in this leafe, whiche be∣fore they recited with Chauncelors, Archdeacons, Officials, Com∣missaries,* 1.8 Proctors. Belyke they haue remembred that this worde Doctor, is founde in the newe Testament, and especially Doctor of lawe.

To proue equalitie of ministers, they haue added Phil. 1. verse. 1. 1. Thes. 1. 1. The first place is this, Paule and Timotheus the seruaunts of Iesus Christ to all Saincts in Christ Iesus that are at Philippi, vvith the Bishops and Deacons. The seconde is this: Paule and Syluanus and Timotheus vnto the Church of the Thessalonians. &c. Truely I knowe not howe to conclude of those places an equalitie of all ministers: I would to God you would set downe your places, and frame your arguments yourselues.

Fol. 6.

They haue forgotten to quote Heb. 6. 1. and haue left out the body and* 1.9 braunche of Antichrist, and for the same haue put in the tayle: But these are but trifles, and very slender corrections.

Io. Whitgifte.

To all these there is nothing sayde, belike the Authors of the Admonition muste answere for them selues, or else prouide another Proctor.

Notes

• * 1.1

  King Ed∣wards priests left out.
• * 1.2

  A scoffe.
• * 1.3

  A correction of a place.
• * 1.4

  Albe left out.
• * 1.5

  Alteration of words.
• * 1.6

  A protestation by the way.
• * 1.7

  They allowe godfathers & godmothers at the last.
• * 1.8

  Why Doc∣tors of 〈◊〉〈◊〉 be left out.
• * 1.9

  Tayle of An∣tichrist.