The defense of the aunsvvere to the Admonition against the replie of T.C. By Iohn VVhitgift Doctor of Diuinitie. In the beginning are added these. 4. tables. 1 Of dangerous doctrines in the replie. 2 Of falsifications and vntruthes. 3 Of matters handled at large. 4 A table generall.

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The defense of the aunsvvere to the Admonition against the replie of T.C. By Iohn VVhitgift Doctor of Diuinitie. In the beginning are added these. 4. tables. 1 Of dangerous doctrines in the replie. 2 Of falsifications and vntruthes. 3 Of matters handled at large. 4 A table generall.
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Whitgift, John, 1530?-1604.
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Printed at London :: By Henry Binneman, for Humfrey Toye,
Anno. 1574.
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Cartwright, Thomas, 1535-1603. -- Replye to an answere made of M. Doctor Whitgifte -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
Church of England -- Apologetic works -- Early works to 1800.
Episcopacy -- Early works to 1800.
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"The defense of the aunsvvere to the Admonition against the replie of T.C. By Iohn VVhitgift Doctor of Diuinitie. In the beginning are added these. 4. tables. 1 Of dangerous doctrines in the replie. 2 Of falsifications and vntruthes. 3 Of matters handled at large. 4 A table generall." In the digital collection Early English Books Online. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A15130.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed June 15, 2024.

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T. C. Pag. 164. Sect. 2.

And where he sayth it is not materiall, although these Deanes, Uycedeanes, Canons, Petyca∣nons, prebēdaries, &c. come from ye Pope, it is, as if he should say, that it skilleth not although they come out of ye bottomlesse pitte. For whatsoeuer cōmeth from the Pope which is Antichrist, com∣meth first from the Deuill: and where he addeth this condition (if it be good. &c.) in deede if of the egges of a Cokatrice can be made holesome meate to feede with, or of a spiders webbe any cloth to couer withall, then also may the things that come from the Pope & the Deuill, be good, profitable, and necessary vnto the church. And where he sayth that Collegiate churches are of great annciēcie, he proueth not the aunciencie of the Cathedrall churches, onlesse he proue that cathedrall and colle∣giate be all one. But I will not sticke with him in so small a matter, and if our controuersie were of the names of these churches, & not of the matter, I could be content to graunt his cause in this point as good as antiquitie without ye word of god (which is nothing but rottēnesse) could make it.

Io. Whitgifte.

This Replie neither answereth directly nor truly, to any thing yt I haue set down.* 1.1 For first it is vntrue that all things cōming frō an Antichristian Pope, cōmeth first frō ye Deuill. I haue sufficiently proued ye contrary in that portion, where I speake of* 1.2 apparel of ministers: an euill man may do some thing that is good, euen as a good mā may do some thing that is euill: & as God doth worke ye good by ye one, so doth the De∣uill worke ye euill by the other. Ethnikes haue made good lawes, they haue appointed stipendes & rewards for learning, & such other like good things, which are profitable & not to be reiected for the Authors sakes, though they were members of Satan.

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Secondly, it is vntrue that Cathedrall Churches came from the Antichristian* 1.3 Pope: for I tolde you that they were in the yeare of our Lorde. 235. at what tyme the Bishops of Rome were godly men and Martyres.

Thirdly, you haue not answered my question, for I demaunded from what Pope they came or in what time they were firste inuented: And to this you say not one worde: wherfore in effect you haue answered nothing. If they be of so late a fundatiō, it must néedes appeare who was the firste inuentor of them: but if that can not he founde (as belike it can not) then must their antiquitie be very great.

Collegiate and Cathedrall Churches be all one, for any thing that I can reade to the contrarie: if it be not so, shewe the difference.

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