The defense of the aunsvvere to the Admonition against the replie of T.C. By Iohn VVhitgift Doctor of Diuinitie. In the beginning are added these. 4. tables. 1 Of dangerous doctrines in the replie. 2 Of falsifications and vntruthes. 3 Of matters handled at large. 4 A table generall.

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The defense of the aunsvvere to the Admonition against the replie of T.C. By Iohn VVhitgift Doctor of Diuinitie. In the beginning are added these. 4. tables. 1 Of dangerous doctrines in the replie. 2 Of falsifications and vntruthes. 3 Of matters handled at large. 4 A table generall.
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Whitgift, John, 1530?-1604.
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Printed at London :: By Henry Binneman, for Humfrey Toye,
Anno. 1574.
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Cartwright, Thomas, 1535-1603. -- Replye to an answere made of M. Doctor Whitgifte -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
Church of England -- Apologetic works -- Early works to 1800.
Episcopacy -- Early works to 1800.
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"The defense of the aunsvvere to the Admonition against the replie of T.C. By Iohn VVhitgift Doctor of Diuinitie. In the beginning are added these. 4. tables. 1 Of dangerous doctrines in the replie. 2 Of falsifications and vntruthes. 3 Of matters handled at large. 4 A table generall." In the digital collection Early English Books Online. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A15130.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed June 8, 2024.

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T. C. Page 154, Sect 1.

This distinction if M. Doctor knoweth not nor hath not heard of, let him looke in the seconde booke of the Chronicles in the. 19. chap. and in the. 8. and. 11. verses, hee shall see that there were a* 1.1 number appointed for the matters of the lord, which were priests & Leuites, and there were other also appointed for the kings affaires, and for matters of the common wealth, amongest which were the Leuites, which being more in number than could be applied to the vse of the churche, were sette ouer ciuill causes, being therfore moste fitte, for that they were best learned in the lawes of God, which were the polylike lawes of that countrey.

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There he may learne if it please him, that the making of orders and giuing of iudgementes in ci∣uill and Ecclesiasticall, in common wealth and churche matters, perteyned vnto diuers persons, whiche distinction the writer to the Hebrewes doth note, when he sayeth, (*) 1.2 that the Priest was ordeyned in thinges perteyning to God.* 1.3

Io. Whitgifte.

Yes, I bothe knowe this distinction, and haue hearde of it, for I haue redde it* 1.4 in the bookes of the Papistes as I haue shewed before: I haue hearde also this same place of the. 2. Chro. 19. alleaged to confirme it: For Saunders in his booke before named, dothe vse it to the same ende and purpose that you do: that is, to proue the Ciuill Magistrate to haue no authoritie in making Ecclesiasticall lawes and or∣ders, his woordes be these. Likewyse Iosaphat kinge of Iuda distinguishing bothe the* 1.5 powers, sayde to the Leuites and Priestes: Amarias the Prieste, and your Bishop shall go∣uerne in those thinges whiche perteyne to God: But Zabadias &c. beholde something perteyned to the Bishop, other somethinges to the office of a Kinge. The same place al∣so dothe Harding vse, to the selfe same ende agaynst my Lorde of Sarisburie, fol. 118. of the defense of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande, from whome I beléeue you haue borrowed it. Do I not say truely that you iumpe with the Papistes? do you not both conspire agaynst the Ciuill Magistrate? and are you not content to vse theyr very woordes and reasons? greate ado there is agaynst me, bycause I vse a place of Cyprian for the authoritie of an Archbishop ouer his prouince, whiche the Papistes abuse for the authoritie of the Pope ouer all Christendome: and here you vse the reason not onely of Papistes, but of Traytours to the same ende with them: that is, agaynst that lawfull iurisdiction, whiche wée haue giuen to our Prince, and whiche hath hetherto bene maynteyned, bothe by preaching and by burning.

But to lette this reste in the consideration of the Reader, I will in fewe* 1.6 woordes declare that this place maketh flatte agaynst you: for who placed those Le∣uites and Priestes in Ierusalem for the iudgement and cause of the Lorde? or who prescribed vnto them what they shoulde do? or who gaue to them that authoritie? did not Iehosaphat? the texte is playne. Iehosaphat had chiefe authoritie and go∣uernment bothe in thinges perteyning to God, and in thinges perteyning to the common wealth, but for better execution of them, the one he did committee to be exe∣cuted by Amaria the Prieste, the other by Zabadiah a ruler of the house of Iuda: e∣uen as the Quéenes Maiestie beyng supreme gouernour in all causes, bothe Eccle∣siasticall and Temporall, committeth the hearing and iudgyng of Ecclesiasticall matters to the Archbyshops and Bishops, and of Temporall matters to the Lorde Chauncellour and other iudges, neyther can you any more conclude that Iehosaphat had no authoritie in Ecclesiasticall causes bycause he made Amarias the Prieste iudge in the same, than you can that he had nothing to do in Temporall affayres, bycause he appoynted also Zabadiah to heare & determine them. For if this reason be good, the Quéene of Englande hath nothing to do with Ecclesiasticall matters, bycause shée hath made the Archbishops and Bishops iudges in them, then is this as good, hir Maiestie hath no authoritie in Ciuill matters, bycause she hath commit∣ted the same to the Lorde Chauncellour and other Iudges. Thus you see howe both the Papistes and you are deceyued in one and she selfe same reason.

I will but note by the way that the Leuites beyng Ecclesiasticall persons, had* 1.7 to do in Ciuill matters, as the woordes of the texte verse. 11. moste manifestly, de∣clare, as for your shifte of the number of them, beyng more than coulde be applyed to the vse of the Churche, it is but your owne, and therefore to simple to answere so playne and direct a place of the Scripture.

That in the fifte to the Hebrewes is farre from the purpose, for the Apostle in the same sentence declareth what those things perteyning to God be: Euen to offer bothe giftes and sacrifices for him: I thinke you do not so malitiously reporte of vs

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as the Papistes do: that we giue to the Prince power to minisier the Sacra∣mentes, and to preache the woorde: if you do not, this place can by no meanes serue your turne.

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