The defense of the aunsvvere to the Admonition against the replie of T.C. By Iohn VVhitgift Doctor of Diuinitie. In the beginning are added these. 4. tables. 1 Of dangerous doctrines in the replie. 2 Of falsifications and vntruthes. 3 Of matters handled at large. 4 A table generall.

T. C. Pag. 131. Sect.

But this is a grosse ouersight of M. Doctor, both 〈◊〉〈◊〉 this section and that whiche goeth 〈◊〉〈◊〉 fore, that he hath not learned to make a difference betwene that which is not 〈1 line〉〈1 line〉ncerely done, & that which is not at al done, For in the former 〈◊◊◊〉〈◊◊◊〉 vpon the Admonition bicause they conclude that for as much as there is no examination therefore it is not 〈◊〉〈◊〉 and sincerely mi∣nistred. For saythe he, the examination of the communicantes, is not of the Iubstaunce of the

sacrament, and in this section he saith, that for as much as it is not of the substance of the sacramēt whether there be leauened or vnleauened bread, therefore it is not sufficiently proued that the sa∣crament is not sincerely ministred: but he ought to haue vnderstanded, that if eyther the matter of the sacrament as bread and wine, or the forme of it, which is the institution (which things are on∣ly substantiall parts) were wanting, that then there should haue bin no sacrament ministred at all, but they being reteyned, and yet other things vsed which are not conuenient, the sacrament is mi∣nistred but not sincerely. For example in the popish baptisme, there was the substance of baptisme, but there being vsed spittle and creame, and candels and such beggerly trumperie, it was not sin∣cerely ministred, therefore it is one thing to minister sincerely and another thing to minister, so that that which is of the substance should be wanting. But of this distinction I haue spoken in ano∣ther place, whereinto although M. Doctor falleth in the next section, and in other places, yet this shall be an answer for all.

Io. Whitgifte.

It is as grossely replyed vnto: but my beléefe is, that the sacrament is as purely and sincerely ministred, with the one, as it is with the other. For not euery fond, su∣perstitious or vayne opinion of euery priuate person in this or that ceremonie, ••e∣rogateth any thing, from the pure and sincere administration of the sacraments, ex∣cept it can be shewed that the things vsed be wicked, vnlawfull or superstitious of themselues. Wherefore this is a grosse quarell of yours, it is no ouersighte of mine, for I am well assured of the right and sincere administration of the sacraments in this Church, both touching substance, ceremonies, and other circumstances. And it is too much iniurie that you do to this Church of England, in comparing the cereme∣nies thereof (which he pure) to the corrupt and superstitious ceremonies of the Pa∣pists vsed in baptisme. But how should you otherwise vtter your cōtempt or great spite against it.