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And verses. 13. 14. 15. it is manifest, that he did baptise Christ with∣out preaching. This is buta slender proofe you vse, thereby to con∣demne the sinceritie of our sarramentes, and administring of them in this Church.
And whereas you say that it is manifest that our sauiour Christ was baptised without prea∣ching, I would know of you, what one worde doth declare that, when as the contrary rather doth appeare in S. Luke, which seemeth to note playnely, that our Sauiour Christe was baptised, when* 1.1 the people were baptised. But the people as I haue shewed were baptised immediatlye after they heard Iohn preache, therefore it is lyke, that our sauiour Christ was baptised after yt he had heard Iohn preach. And it is very probable, that our sauiour Christ which did honor the ministery of God by the hand of men so far, as he would vouchsafe to be baptised of Iohn, would not neglect or passe by his ministery of the word, being more precious than that of the Sacramente, as it appeareth by Iohn, that our Sauiour Christe was present at his sermons, for so much as S. Iohn doth as hee was preaching to the people, point hym out with the fynger, & tolde them that he was in the middest* 1.2 of them which was greater than he.
First S. Mathewe maketh no mention of it, neither can it be gathered by any circūstance of the place. Secondly, Luke doth not say that Iohn preached immediatly before he baptised. But the contrary rather appeareth, if S. Luke wryte the story or∣derly. Thirdly, to what purpose should he preache to Christe before he baptised him? Lastly, in the first of Iohn, there is not one sentence to proue that Christe was pre∣sent at any of Iohns sermones, for those wordes (But there standeth one among you* 1.3 whome you know not. &c.) do not signifie that he was in that company at that present, Sed quod inter eos versabatur, that he was conuersant amongst them. But if he had bin pre∣sent, doth it therefore followe that the sacramentes may not be ministred without preaching? do you make preaching immediatly before the administration of the sa∣cramentes, De substantia Sacramentorum, of the substance of the Sacramentes?
Luke. 3.
Iohn. 1.
Iohn. 1.