The defense of the aunsvvere to the Admonition against the replie of T.C. By Iohn VVhitgift Doctor of Diuinitie. In the beginning are added these. 4. tables. 1 Of dangerous doctrines in the replie. 2 Of falsifications and vntruthes. 3 Of matters handled at large. 4 A table generall.

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The defense of the aunsvvere to the Admonition against the replie of T.C. By Iohn VVhitgift Doctor of Diuinitie. In the beginning are added these. 4. tables. 1 Of dangerous doctrines in the replie. 2 Of falsifications and vntruthes. 3 Of matters handled at large. 4 A table generall.
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Whitgift, John, 1530?-1604.
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Anno. 1574.
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Cartwright, Thomas, 1535-1603. -- Replye to an answere made of M. Doctor Whitgifte -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
Church of England -- Apologetic works -- Early works to 1800.
Episcopacy -- Early works to 1800.
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"The defense of the aunsvvere to the Admonition against the replie of T.C. By Iohn VVhitgift Doctor of Diuinitie. In the beginning are added these. 4. tables. 1 Of dangerous doctrines in the replie. 2 Of falsifications and vntruthes. 3 Of matters handled at large. 4 A table generall." In the digital collection Early English Books Online. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A15130.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed June 15, 2024.

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Chap. 4. the. 6. Diuision.
T. C. Page. 92. Sect. 1. 2.

Where he sayth that by this reason we should haue no Churches, pulpits, scholes, nor vniuer∣sities: it is first easily answered that S. Paule speaketh not in the. 4. to the Ephesians of all thinges necessarie for the Church, but only of all necessarie ecclesiasticall functions, which do both teache and gouerne in the Churche, and then I haue already shewed that there were both Chur∣ches and pulpits.

As for scholes and Uniuersities, it is sufficient (*) 1.1 commaundement of them, in that it is com∣manded that both the Magistrates and pastours should be learned, for he that commaundeth that they should be learned, commaundeth those things & those meanes, wherby they may most conue∣niently come to that learning. And we haue also examples of them commended vnto vs in the old* 1.2 Testament. As in the booke of the Iudges when Debora commendeth the Uniuersitie men, & those whiche handled the penne of the wryter, that they came out to helpe in the battayle agaynst the enemies of God. And in the first booke of Samuell: and in the seconde booke of the Kings:* 1.3 when Naioth and Bethel, Iericho, and a place beyonde Iordan are specified places which were* 1.4 scholes or Uniuersities, where the scholers of the Prophets were brought vp in the feare of God, and good learning: the continuance of whiche scholes and vniuersities amongst the people of God,* 1.5 may be easily gathered of that which S. Luke writeth in the Actes, where it may appeare, that in Ierusalem there were certayne Colleges appoynted for seuerall countrey men, so that there was one College to receyue the Iewes and Proselites, which came out of Cilicia, another for those that came out of Alexandria. &c. to studie at Ierusalem. And if any man be able to shewe suche euidence for Archbishops and Archedeacons, as these are for vniuersities and scholes, I will not denie but it is as lawfull to haue them as these.

Io. Whitgifte.

Yet sayth he truely, for in those tymes in Christian congregations there were neyther publike Churches, or Pulpits, or scholes, or Vniuersities, &c. and yet these doe apperteyne to the gouernmente of the Churche. In déede S. Paule speaketh onely there of suche ecclesiasticall functions as doe teache and preache the worde, and not of suche as doe onely gouerne, and therefore it can not be a perfecte platfourme for euer, as I haue before declared: and yet dyuers of these thinges mentioned by the Bishop of Sarisburie, perteyne bothe to the office of teaching and gouerning.

That whiche you saye of Scholes, and Uniuersities, I minde not to examine, bicause I knowe they be necessary for the Churche, howe aptely soeuer you proue them. But this is the matter: they be necessarie in the Churche bothe for the office* 1.6 of gouerning and teaching, and yet they be not expressed in the fourthe to the Ephe∣sians, therefore in that fourth to the Ephesians there is no perfecte paterne of all ecclesiasticall gouernment: for that is the thing that the Bishop of Sarisburie affir∣meth, and therevnto you answere not one worde.

Not one of these places that you alleage, proueth that in this texte to the Ephe∣sians, eyther Scholes or Vniuersities be mentioned: thoughe it be certayne, that they perteyne bothe to teaching and gouerning, and therefore all this spéeche of yours is* 1.7 to no purpose, but onely to dasle the eyes of the Reader, least he should perceyue how you offende in ignorantia Elenchi, in not answering ad idem.

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