The defense of the aunsvvere to the Admonition against the replie of T.C. By Iohn VVhitgift Doctor of Diuinitie. In the beginning are added these. 4. tables. 1 Of dangerous doctrines in the replie. 2 Of falsifications and vntruthes. 3 Of matters handled at large. 4 A table generall.

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The defense of the aunsvvere to the Admonition against the replie of T.C. By Iohn VVhitgift Doctor of Diuinitie. In the beginning are added these. 4. tables. 1 Of dangerous doctrines in the replie. 2 Of falsifications and vntruthes. 3 Of matters handled at large. 4 A table generall.
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Whitgift, John, 1530?-1604.
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Printed at London :: By Henry Binneman, for Humfrey Toye,
Anno. 1574.
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Cartwright, Thomas, 1535-1603. -- Replye to an answere made of M. Doctor Whitgifte -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
Church of England -- Apologetic works -- Early works to 1800.
Episcopacy -- Early works to 1800.
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Io. Whitgifte.

It shall appeare God willing, whether M. Doctors memory or yours be worse:* 1.1 whether he hath an euill conscience in falsifying writers, or you in slaundering of him: whe∣ther he taketh his stuffe at the second hand, or you rather, that haue borrowed of other mē〈1 line〉〈1 line〉 collections, almost whatsoeuer you haue heaped togither in your booke. All this I say shall appeare, euen to trie your corrupt & vntrue dealing in this place: and certainely I cannot but maruell what affection hath so gotten the vpper hand of you, that it pro∣uoketh you to such outrage〈1 line〉〈1 line〉us speaches in a matter so manifestly counterfet. If you haue not séene the Author I will ascribe it to negligent ignorāce, but if you haue séene him, I cannot ascribe it to any other thing, than to vnsha〈1 line〉〈1 line〉efast malice. The whole storie as it is in Theodoret is this: 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉* 1.2 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉. Iohn the great hauing receyued the sterne of the Church, reproued the iniuries of certaine boldly, and counsayled the king and the Queene things c〈1 line〉〈1 line〉uenient, and exhorted the Priest〈1 line〉〈1 line〉 〈1 line〉〈1 line〉o walke according to the lawes appoynted. But such as were not afrayde to breake them, he suffered not to come to the table, saying it was not meete that those should enioye the ho∣nour of Priestes, which would not follow the conuersation of true Priestes. And this care 〈◊〉〈◊〉 vsed not only ouer that citie, but also ouer whole Thracia, which cōteyneth six prouinces, and ouer all Asia, which is gouerned vnder eleuen rulers: and moreouer he gouerned the Church of Pontus with these lawes, in which coūtrie are as many rulers as in Asia. First he sayth that Chrysostome tooke the stern〈1 line〉〈1 line〉 or gouernmēt of the Church, then that he did

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freely reprehend vice. Thirdly, that he commaunded the Priests to liue according to the lawes. Fourthly, that he did excommunicate and depriue of their priestly honour such as durst transgresse. Is not this to rule? what Archbishop in England doth execute greater iurisdiction? Then it followeth immediatly in Theodor. and vvith this care he did prouide for, or embrace not only his citie, but the Churches of Thracia, &c. Where it is to be noted that Theodorete sayth with this care &c. meaning that as he had the gouernment of the Church of Cōstantinople, and did there reprehend vice, cōmaunded the Priests to liue according to the lawes, excōmunicate them that did not, and put them from their office, so did he also in the Churches of Thracia, Asia, and Pontus. Theodoretes words be 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 &c. and you haue craftely left out 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 that you might the rather cloke Theodoretes plaine meaning. Besides this Theodo∣ret sayth in playne woordes, that he gouerned the Churches in Pontus with these lawes, the Gréeke woorde is 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉.

I shall moste hartely desire the Reader to consider this dealing of yours: surely I thinke fewe Papistes would haue dealt in lyke manner. And if the woordes of them∣selues were not playne (as they be most playne) yet very reason might haue taught you, that this was Theodoretes meaning, for if he should not haue ment some special care of these Churches, wherfore should he rather make particular mētiō of them, thā of other Churches? do you not thinke that wisé mē can easily espie your grosse shifts?

Cyprians care ouer Rome, was not lyke the care that he had ouer his owne Chur∣ches, it could not be sayd that he embraced Rome with the same care of gouernment, of reprouing, of excommunicating such as durst offend &c. that he did Carthage, and o∣ther places committed vnto him, as it is here sayd of Chrysostome.

I omit your ouersight in saying that Ireneus was sent to the Churches in Phrygia: for Eusebius lib. 5. cap. 3. & 4. (which places you quote in your margent to proue it) hath no such thing: only he sayth that Ireneus was sent to Rome to Eleutherius.

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