The defense of the aunsvvere to the Admonition against the replie of T.C. By Iohn VVhitgift Doctor of Diuinitie. In the beginning are added these. 4. tables. 1 Of dangerous doctrines in the replie. 2 Of falsifications and vntruthes. 3 Of matters handled at large. 4 A table generall.

Chap. 2. the. 22. Diuision.

Ansvvere to the Admonition. Pag. 66. Sect. 3.

Ambrose also that olde and learned father, both alloweth the name* 1.1 and office of an Archbyshop, Lib. de dignitate Sacerdotum. cap. 5.

T. C. Pag. 71. Sect. 2.

If (*) 1.2 all shoulde be allowed of that S. Ambrose alloweth of, then besydes other thyngs which he holdeth corruptly, the mariage of the Ministers should go very hard: but it is worthy to be ob∣serued wyth what wordes Ambrose doth allowe of the Archbyshop, that all men may vnderstande,* 1.3 howe lowe it goeth wyth M. Doctor, for his defence of the Archbyshop: and how the Archbyshop is so out of credit, that there cannot be gotten any to be suertie for his honestie. Ambrose complay∣ning of the Ministers or Byshops in those dayes sayth, if a man aske them who preferred them to be Priests, answere is made by and by that the (a) 1.4 Archbyshop for an hundred shillings ordeined me Byshop, to whome I gaue an hundred shillings that I myghte get the fauour to be Byshop, whych if I had not giuen I had not bene Byshop: and afterwarde he saythe that this greeued him, that the Archbyshop ordeyned Byshops carnally or for some carnall respect, and this is all the allowance that Ambrose sheweth of an Archbyshop. Your Archbyshop taketh all things in good part, so that his very dispraise he expoundeth to his commendation.

Io. Whitgifte.

I know no man whose writings and workes are so perfect (the writers of the Ca∣nonical scriptures excepted) that all things in their bookes are to be allowed. But God forbyd that we should therefore reiect that which they haue well and truely spoken: you will doe little for Ambrose if you will not allowe him for an historicall witnesse of that which was in his tyme, this is therefore a shifting answere, but nothing com∣mendable. It euidently appeareth by that place, that in his tyme there were Archby∣shops, for what though he reproue the abuse of some Archbyshops in ordeyning By∣shops & Ministers for monie, doth he therefore disalowe, either the name or the office? Nay this is rather to be concluded, that there were Archbyshops in Ambroses tyme, which had authoritie to ordeine Bishops, bycause Ambrose doth reproue suche Arch∣byshops as for carnall respects ordeined Byshops.

Your vndutifull and arrogant frumpes and scoffes I passe ouer. It séemeth by your so oft vsing them, that you are afraide, least you should be taken for a modest Chri∣stian.

Notes

• * 1.1

  Ambrose.
• (*) 1.2

  Ambrose i〈1 line〉〈1 line〉 little beholding to you, that can∣not be accepted for a wi〈1 line〉〈1 line〉nesse.
• * 1.3

  1. Lib. offi. cap. 50.
• (a) 1.4

  In those words Ambrose doth not dissa low the office, but the abuse of it by the person.