The defense of the aunsvvere to the Admonition against the replie of T.C. By Iohn VVhitgift Doctor of Diuinitie. In the beginning are added these. 4. tables. 1 Of dangerous doctrines in the replie. 2 Of falsifications and vntruthes. 3 Of matters handled at large. 4 A table generall.

Chap. 1. the. 21. Diuision.

T. C. Pag. 64. Sect. 3. 4. 5.

The last (*) 1.1 refuge is, that the Apostle made mention of those functions whiche haue to doe with the ministring of the word and sacraments, and not of those whiche haue to do with order and discipline.

Speake in good earnest, had the Apostles (a) 1.2 nothing to do with discipline and order? with what face can you take away the raines of gouernment out of the Apostles handes, and put them in the Archby shops and Archdeacons hands? what a peruersnesse is this that the ministeries in∣uented by men should be preferred to all the ministeries appointed and commaunded of God.

The Apostles for sooth haue in common with the Archbyshops and Archdeacons the power of ministring of the worde and of the Sacraments, of binding and losing, and thus farre as good as the Archbyshops and Archdeacons. But for discipline and order the Apostles haue nothing to doe, but herein Archbyshops and Archdeacons are aboue them and better than they.

Io. Whitgifte.

You wonderfully forget your selfe, for it is your owne distinction as it appeareth* 1.3 in the. 5. line of the same page of your booke: and thereby you shifted off the obiection of Deacons and Elders. I know no man that taketh the raines of gouernmente out of the Apostles hāds and giueth it to any to whome it is not due by the word of God. But is your meaning that the Apostles should now execute it themselues? else Quorsum bae〈1 line〉〈1 line〉 Surely you are so full of passions that you forget the matter. I knowe the Apostles had in their time togyther with the ministerie of the word and sacraments, power to exercise ecclesiasticall discipline and order: But truly I vnderstand not your mea∣ning, for neuer any such thing as you here fancie entred once into my cogitation. I rather say that bycause in the Apostles there was ioyned the administration of dis∣cipline with the ministerie of the word and sacraments, therefore it may be so like∣wise now in Archbyshops and Byshops. For that authoritie of discipline and go∣uernment that the Apostles had in their time, is now for the most part executed by Archbyshops and Byshops, which is the ouerthrow of your whole assertion.

Notes

• (*) 1.1

  You 〈◊〉〈◊〉 that against your selfe nov▪ which before you were glad to vse as a 〈◊〉〈◊〉 for your selfe.
• (a) 1.2

  Here he con∣futeth his owne shadow.
• * 1.3

  Page. 64. li. 5.