The defense of the aunsvvere to the Admonition against the replie of T.C. By Iohn VVhitgift Doctor of Diuinitie. In the beginning are added these. 4. tables. 1 Of dangerous doctrines in the replie. 2 Of falsifications and vntruthes. 3 Of matters handled at large. 4 A table generall.

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The defense of the aunsvvere to the Admonition against the replie of T.C. By Iohn VVhitgift Doctor of Diuinitie. In the beginning are added these. 4. tables. 1 Of dangerous doctrines in the replie. 2 Of falsifications and vntruthes. 3 Of matters handled at large. 4 A table generall.
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Whitgift, John, 1530?-1604.
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Printed at London :: By Henry Binneman, for Humfrey Toye,
Anno. 1574.
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Cartwright, Thomas, 1535-1603. -- Replye to an answere made of M. Doctor Whitgifte -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
Church of England -- Apologetic works -- Early works to 1800.
Episcopacy -- Early works to 1800.
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Chap. 3. the fourth Diuision.
T. C. Pag. 46. Sect. 1.

And as for Andronicus and Iunius whiche are by you recited(*) 1.1 belike to proue that we may haue more Apostles, bycause it is said of S. Paule that they were famous and notable amōgst the* 1.2 Apostles, it cannot be proued by any thing I see there, whether they had any function ecclesiasticall or no. For S. Paule calleth them his kinsfolks, and fellowe prisoners, and dothe not saye that they were hys fellowe labourers: and a man maye be well notable and famouse amongst the Apostles, and well knowne vnto them, whiche is no Apostle. And if the Apostles woulde haue had this order of the Apostles to continue in the Churche, there is no doubt but that they would

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haue chosen one into Iames his roome, when he was slayn, as they did, when they supplyed the place of Iudas, by choosing Matth〈1 line〉〈1 line〉s, and so euer as they had dyed, the other would haue put other in their places. So it appeareth that this function of the Apostles is ceased.

Io. Whitgifte.

The foresayd authors of the storie called (a) 1.3 Magdelburgica, do also recken these two* 1.4 among the Apostles, euen as they do Paule & Barnabas. (b) 1.5 M. Caluin vpon that place to the Romaines sayth, that the name of an Apostle there doth extende to all those whiche teache not one Churche onely, but many. &c. and séemeth to accompte Andronicus and Iunius such.(c) 1.6 M. Beza in the same place writeth thus: Inter Apostolos. &c. i quorum no∣men inter Apostolos viget, vel qui & ipsi sunt insignes Apostoli, 〈1 line〉〈1 line〉ic enim accipitur interdum 〈1 line〉〈1 line〉oc no∣men in genere pro bis, qui Christi nomine funguntur legatione, That is, whose name is famous among the Apostles, or whiche are themselues notable Apostles: for so is this name some∣tyme generally taken for those, which are sent in embassage in the name of Christe. Bul∣linger doth think yt they wer in the number of the. 72. disciples. Peter Martyr vpon that* 1.7 place, They are called notable amongst the Apostles: not bicause they were of the colledge of the twelue Apostles, but bicause (as it is credible) they had spread the Gospell through* 1.8 manie places, and had planted many Churches. And a little after speaking of your in∣terpretation, he sayeth, This sense doth not displease me, if the wordes themselues bee not contrarie thervnto. So that he séemeth to doubte whether the wordes will beare your interpretation or no. Gualter and Bullinger also suppose it not to be vnlykely〈1 line〉〈1 line〉,* 1.9 that they were the first planters of Christian religion at Rome. And I can reade of none that doubteth whether they had any function Ecclesiasticall or no, as you do.

I brought them in before pagina. 47. to proue that some may be chosen to preach the woorde whiche haue no certaine cure, and you to auoyde a direct answere, haue shifted them of to this place, and now you say, that belyke. I bring them in to proue that we may haue more Apostles, which thing in déede they proue manifestly, but I brought them in to declare that a man may be admitted to preach, though he haue no certaine cure, and to that you haue not answered.

There is nothing expressed in Scriptures, whether the Apostles did choose any into the roome of Iames or no: but I am persuaded they did not, neyther was it ne∣cessarie. For who euer sayd, that there muste continually be twelue Apostles, and neyther more nor lesse?

I tolde you before out of M. Caluine, that this worde Apostle, in his proper and v∣suall signification comprehendeth only the twelue Apostles appoynted by Christe. Wherfore in this signification there are nowe no Apostles, neyther was there anye since that tyme: but it signifieth also generally such as preache the Gospel in sundry places, and although they go not through the whole worlde, as the twelue did, yet are they not bounde to any one place certainly. And according to this signification, there both hath be〈1 line〉〈1 line〉e and are Apostles.

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