The defense of the aunsvvere to the Admonition against the replie of T.C. By Iohn VVhitgift Doctor of Diuinitie. In the beginning are added these. 4. tables. 1 Of dangerous doctrines in the replie. 2 Of falsifications and vntruthes. 3 Of matters handled at large. 4 A table generall.

T. C. Pag. 44. Sect. 1.

The great Councell of Calcedon decreed that no Eider or Deacon, or any other in the eccle∣siasticall* 1.1 order shoulde be ordeyned 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉: that is, losely, and as it were let goe at ran∣don whither he himselfe 〈1 line〉〈1 line〉sted, whiche he also interpreteth by and by more playnely, when he ad∣deth,* 1.2 that he shoulde not be ordeyned 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉: that is, vnlesse it be specially in a congregation of some citie or towne. And in the Councell of Urban (as Gratian reporteth, distinction. 70.) it was decreed that the ordination, that was made without any title, shoulde be voyde, and what that meaneth, is shewed by and by, when it is sayde, and in what Church any is intitled, there let him always remayne. And this is also(*) 1.3 S. Hierome his* 1.4 complaynt, in that men were ordeyned vnto the ministerie, when they were chosen by no Churche, and so wente rounde about, hauing no certayne place. And therefore this, that none oughte to preache, vnlesse he haue some pastorall charge, oughte not to haue beene so straunge a thing vn∣to you, as you make it, if eyther the Scriptures, or the Councels, or the auncient Fathers, hadde beene so well knowne vnto you, as eyther your name requireth, or you take vpon you, whyche dare so boldely pronounce, that there can be shewed no texte of Scripture for the matter.

Io. Whitgifte.

You are notable in falsifying and coruptly alleaging of the authorities of Fa∣thers and Councels, and a singular grace you haue, bothe in ascribing that vn∣to them, whiche they haue not, and in otherwyse reporting that which they haue: as you doe nowe in this place deale with the Councell of Calcedon: for you say, that Councell decreed that no Elder or Deacon. &c. shoulde bee ordeyned 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉: that is losely. &c. And you adde, that he interpreteth this more playnely, when he addeth that he shoulde not be ordeyned 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉: that is, vnlesse it be speciallye in a congregation of some citie or towne. But you haue craftily lefte out that which maketh agaynst you, and playnely openeth the meaning of the Councel, which is this, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉. &c.

The whole Canon is this, Nullum absolutè ordinari debere presbyterum aut Diaconum, ńec quemlibet in gradu ecclesiastico, nisi specialiter in ecclesia ciuitatis aut pagi, aut in martyrio, aut monasterio, qui ordinandus est, pronuncietur. Qui verò absolutè ordinantur▪ decreuit Sancta syno∣dus,* 1.5 irritam haberi 〈1 line〉〈1 line〉uiusmodi manus impositionem, & nusquàm posse ministrare ad ordinantis ignominiam. Wherby it is plaine, that the meaning of the Councell is to haue none ad∣mitted into any Ecclesiasticall degrée, except he haue some thing to liue vpon, and not that he must of necessitie haue some cure: for then would not the councell haue sayd aut in martyrio, aut monasterio, for these be no pastorall charges: neither yet woulde it haue added aut Diaconum aut quemlibet in gradu ecclesiastico, Deacons or any other in eccle∣siastical degree: bicause euery one admitted in aliquem gradum ecclesiasticum, into any eccle∣siasticall degree, is not admitted to a cure. Wherefore the glosse in Gratian doth well interpret the meaning of this Canon, when it saith that nonc is to be ordeined sine ti∣tulo,* 1.6 without a title, ne dicatur, mendicat in plateis infoelix clerious: least it be saide, an vnhap∣pie clerke beggeth in the streates: and further addeth thus, colligitur etiam bic, ex eo quod dicit, siue possessionis, argumentum, quod si quis habet patrimonium sufficiens ordinari potest sine titulo: an argument may also here be gathered, in that it sayth (or of possession) that if any haue sufficient patrimonie, he may be ordeyned without a title. But these words, siue in martyrio siue in monasterio, do manifestly declare that the Councell would haue none ad∣mitted to any Ecclesiasticall function without some stay of liuing, either of some be∣nefice, Monasterie, Colledge, Chappell, his owne possessions, or such like: as the practise of the Church vnder the Pope is at this day. And yet if any man should say, that out o this Canon there can be nothing gathered, but onely this, in what places those that are called to the ministerie are to be admitted and ordeined, I knowe not howe you could answere it, for the wordes of the Canon admit that sense most properly.

That decrée of Vrban hath the same meaning, and that which followeth, of remay∣ning continually in that Church, in the which he is intituled, doth but signifie that he must be assured of his lyuing, whervnto he is intituled during his life: for the same Canon doth permit one man to haue two Churches, but yet that he ought not to be canonicus prebendarius, but onely of one Church wherof he is intituled. But I can not but mar∣ueile that you will vse the testimonie of this Councell of Pope Vrban, which was hol∣den at the least an. 1090. after Christ, euen in the most corrupte time, when as Anti∣christ had fully possessed the sea of Rome, in the which Councell among other things (a) 1.7 he confirmed the actes of Pope Hildebrand against Henrie the Emperour. This Vr∣ban also was the confirmer of the superstitious orders of the (b) 1.8 Cistercian friers, and (c) 1.9 Carthusian Monkes, he likewise deposed (d) 1.10 Deacons that were maried, from their or∣ders: And (e) 1.11 forbad (by the Councell of the traiterous Archbishop Anselme) that any Clearke should receiue beneficiorum inuestituram, or any Ecclesiasticall dignitie, of any Prince or lay man, but (f) 1.12 onely of the Pope. And that you may yet further vnder∣stand what a worthie patrone you haue gotten for your cause, this Vrban was he that was author (g) 1.13 of the Canonicall houres, commonly called our Ladies Psalter.

Certainly Hierome sayth no suche thing in that Epistle, you are disposed to father that of him that he neuer spake▪ His complaint was that much cost was bestowed vpon Churches in adorning and decking of them, and little regarde to the choise of Ministers, meaning that they had more care to haue gorgious Churches than good Ministers. But what is this to your purpose?

Thus haue you proued neither by Scripture, nor by Councell, nor Doctor (truely alleaged and vnderstanded) that none maye preache, vnlesse he haue some pastorall charge, and I still affirme that you haue not one texte of Scripture soundyng that way, where there are to the contrarie sundry examples, as I haue alleaged.

Notes

• * 1.1

  Cap. 6. act. 1〈1 line〉〈1 line〉.
• * 1.2

  The Councell of Calcedon may∣med.
• (*) 1.3

  You stil stum ble vpon Hie∣rome in steade of Musculus.
• * 1.4

  Ad Nepoti▪
• * 1.5

  Con. Cbalced▪ cap. 6. act. 15▪
• * 1.6

  Dist. 70. 〈◊〉〈◊〉.
• (a) 1.7

  Volater▪ & Bale.
• (b) 1.8

  Platina: in vita Vrb. 2.
• (c) 1.9

  Volateran: & Cent. II. ca. 10.
• (d) 1.10

  Distinct. 32 eos qui.
• (e) 1.11

  Matth. p〈1 line〉〈1 line〉 risi. in vita VVilli. 2.
• (f) 1.12

  Cent. 4.
• (g) 1.13

  P〈1 line〉〈1 line〉lid. de inuent. lib. 6. cap. 2.