The defense of the aunsvvere to the Admonition against the replie of T.C. By Iohn VVhitgift Doctor of Diuinitie. In the beginning are added these. 4. tables. 1 Of dangerous doctrines in the replie. 2 Of falsifications and vntruthes. 3 Of matters handled at large. 4 A table generall.

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The defense of the aunsvvere to the Admonition against the replie of T.C. By Iohn VVhitgift Doctor of Diuinitie. In the beginning are added these. 4. tables. 1 Of dangerous doctrines in the replie. 2 Of falsifications and vntruthes. 3 Of matters handled at large. 4 A table generall.
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Whitgift, John, 1530?-1604.
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Printed at London :: By Henry Binneman, for Humfrey Toye,
Anno. 1574.
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Cartwright, Thomas, 1535-1603. -- Replye to an answere made of M. Doctor Whitgifte -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
Church of England -- Apologetic works -- Early works to 1800.
Episcopacy -- Early works to 1800.
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"The defense of the aunsvvere to the Admonition against the replie of T.C. By Iohn VVhitgift Doctor of Diuinitie. In the beginning are added these. 4. tables. 1 Of dangerous doctrines in the replie. 2 Of falsifications and vntruthes. 3 Of matters handled at large. 4 A table generall." In the digital collection Early English Books Online. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A15130.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed June 16, 2024.

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T. C. Pag. 9. Sect. 2.

IT maye be sayde vnto you, that whiche Aristotle sayde of a certayne Philosopher, that he knew not his owne voyce: For if that you had remēbred that which you do so often promise, that you will not answere wordes, but matter, the Printer shoulde not haue gayned so muche, men should not haue bestowed so muche money of a thing not of so greate value, nor that (whiche is more) the worlde shoulde not bee burdened with vnprofitable writinges. For howe often run∣ninges out haue you, to drawe the authors of the Admonition into hatred, by inueyghing bitter∣ly agaynst their vnlearnednesse, maliciousnesse. &c. (as it pleaseth you to terme it) so that if there were any excesse of speeche in them, you haue payde it agayne with measure pressed downe, and running ouer. Howe often charge you them with pride and arrogancie, men that confesse once or twice of them selues their wante of skill, and whiche professe nothing of them selues, but onely a bare and naked knowledge of the truthe, whiche maye be done with modestie, euen of them which haue no learning. And yet those that know them, know that they are neither voyde of the knowledge of the tongues, nor of the liberall Artes, albeit they doe not make so many wordes of* 1.1 it, as you. Salomon saythe, that he that is despised, and hathe but one seruaunte, is better than he whiche magnifieth and setteth out him selfe, and yet wanteth bread: whereby he meaneth, that the man that hathe but a little, and carieth his countenance accordingly, is muche more to be estee∣ined, than he whiche beareth a greate porte, and hathe not to supporte it. These brethren haue not vndertaken the knowledge of Logike, Philosophie, and other schoole learning, whereof not∣withstanding they are not destitute: you in so often reproching them, with the ignorance of them, woulde make vs beleeue, that you are so notable a Logician, and Philosopher, as if Logike and Philosophie had beene borne with you, and shoulde dye with you: when as it may appeare partely by that whiche hathe beene spoken, and partely by those thinges, that will fall out heere∣after, that you are better acquaynted with the names of Logike and Philosophie, than with any sounde, or substantiall knowledge of them. But let that be the Uniuersities iudgement, where you haue beene brought vp, and are best knowne. To returne to your vnprofitable excursions, howe often times in your booke doe you pull at the Magistrates sworde, and what sworde you woulde haue, I leaue to the consideration of all men, seeing you are not satisfied with their imprisonment: wherevpon also dothe eusue the expense of that whiche they haue. What mat∣ter is in all these, that bringeth any helpe to the decision of these causes, that are in question be∣tweene vs? howe many leaues haue you wasted in confuting of the quotations, whiche (you saye) are* 1.2 vayne, foolishe, vnlearned, and to no purpose of that for whiche they are alleaged? And if they be so, where learned you to spende so muche time aboute them: dyd you neuer learne that 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉. to confute (a) 1.3 tri〈1 line〉〈1 line〉ing thinges seriously, is a poynte of those, whiche haue no iudgement to knowe what is meete for the tyme and place, and other suche circumstaunces? If I (b) 1.4 shoulde of the other side nowe goe aboute too mayntayne euery place, too bee not vnfitly quoted, vnto that ende, wherfore it is alleaged, and shewe howe vniuste your reprehensions are, and howe small cause you

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haue to leade th〈1 line〉〈1 line〉in oftentimes, so gloriously in triumphe (as you do) which I assure you I could do in the most places. As what could be more 〈1 line〉〈1 line〉tly alleaged, to induce to reade the booke, than that they shoulde trie all things? what more fitly to holde men from rashe condeinning of thinges, than that they shoulde be slowe 〈1 line〉〈1 line〉 speake? what more fitly to moue that they shoulde not 〈1 line〉〈1 line〉illike of the goodnesse of the cause, for the simplicitie or base degree of them that defende it, than that we shoulde not haue the saythe of our Lorde Iesus Christe in respecte of persons? And what more vmustly done than that you should whip them for the Printers faulte, in putting one place for another? If, I saye, I shoulde thus goe aboute to make good euery place, howe euill should I deserue either of learning, or of the truthe it selfe, in blotting of muche paper, whereby no pro∣fite woulde come to the Reader? And if the dayes of a man were as many as the dayes of an oke, I woulde neither willingly trouble, nor be troubled, with suche strife of wordes. Seeing therefore, God hathe shut vs in so narrow〈1 line〉〈1 line〉 termes, me thinke men shoulde haue conscience of pe∣stering the worlde, with such (c) 1.5 vnprofitable treatises.

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