A replie to Iesuit Fishers answere to certain questions propou[n]ded by his most gratious Matie: King Iames By Francis White D: of Div· deane of Carlile, chaplaine to his Matie. Hereunto is annexed, a conference of the right: R:B: of St Dauids wth the same Iesuit*

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A replie to Iesuit Fishers answere to certain questions propou[n]ded by his most gratious Matie: King Iames By Francis White D: of Div· deane of Carlile, chaplaine to his Matie. Hereunto is annexed, a conference of the right: R:B: of St Dauids wth the same Iesuit*
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THE SECOND PART [ A] of the Iesuits Disputation, concerning [ B] the supposed Errors of the PROTESTANTS.

IESVIT.

THe Conclusion of this Point, shewing that Protestants erre fundamentally. [ C]

ANSVVER.

THis Conclusion is inferred vp∣on false Premises, and therefore it is a Lying Conclusion. And if Protestants erre not in all, or any of the Articles ob∣iected, eyther materially, or pertinaciously, then they erre not fundamentally. [ D]

IESVIT.

Out of all this appeares, that the Romane is the true Church, and consequently, that Protestants haue funda∣mentall Errors about Faith.

ANSWER.

If the Antecedent were graunted, yet the Consequence is [ E] not necessarie: for the Church of Africa, in the dayes of Saint Cyprian, was a true Church; and yet they which beleeued o∣therwise, touching rebaptising a 1.1, than that Church, erred not eyther materially, or fundamentally.

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IESVIT. [ A]

Errours are fundamentall, that is, damnable, either in re∣gard of the matter, because against some substantiall Article of Faith, the knowledge whereof is necessarie for the per∣formance of a required Christian dutie; or in regard of the manner, they are held, to wit, so obstinately, as in defence of them, one denies the Catholicke Church. [ B]

ANSVVER.

The distinction of errours into fundamentall, and preter∣fundamentall, is collected out of the Scriptures: 1. Cor. 3. 12. Phil. 3. 15, 16. 2. Tim. 2. 18. Col. 2. 19. Heb. 6. 1. And the same is found in the Fathers a 1.2, and in the Schoolemen, in tearmes aequiualent b 1.3.

As all verities (according to St. Augustine) are fundamentall, without the knowledge and faith whereof, people cannot at∣taine saluation c 1.4: so likewise all errours, directly opposing, and destroying right Faith, concerning those necessarie and es∣sentiall verities, are fundamentall: 1. Tim. 6. 3. 1. Cor. 15. 4, &c. Gal. 5. 2.

All necessarie and essentiall veritie, either concerning Faith, or good manners (according to St. Augustine d 1.5) is deliuered in plaine places of holy Scriptures: and therefore they which accuse [ D] others of fundamentall errour, must produce plaine and mani∣fest Scripture against them e 1.6: And if after such ostension, Er∣rants continue obstinate f 1.7, they are guiltie both before God and men, of damnable Heresie, and deserue the title and punish∣ment of Heretickes.

These things being premised, concerning the Subiect of the Iesuits Proposition; I denie that errours in secondarie points,

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defended against the common tenet of the Catholike Church, [ A] are alwayes fundamentall: for 〈◊〉〈◊〉. Cyprian, with 80. Bishops of Affrica a 1.8, did stifly defend Rebaptising, against the common iudgement of the Catholicke Church, and yet S. August. freeth them from the guiltinesse of damnable errour. Secondly, if all such errour be damnable, yet the Protestants are innocent, be∣cause they defend no errour, great or small, wilfully or obsti∣nately, neither doe they oppose, but humbly submit themselues to the iudgement of the true Catholicke Church.

The Pharisees of Rome enroabe themselues with glorious titles; but where doth the word of Christ endow them with [ B] priuiledges beyond other Churches: shew vs out of the holy Euangelists, or the Acts and Epistles of the Apostles b 1.9, that you are the onely Catholicke Church. All fundamentall veritie is deliuered in the plaine Texts of Scripture c 1.10, Aug. d. Doct. Christ. l. 2. c. 9. And all fundamentall errour is condemned by manifest Scripture, Et Catholica fides in Scripturis manifesta est, The true Catholike faith is manifest in the Scriptures, Aug. d. Agon. Christ. c. 28. Ecclesia nonin parietibus consistit, sed in dogmatum veritate, Ecclesia ibi est, vbi vera fides est: The Church of Christ consisteth not of outward Titles and walles, but of the veritie of Do∣ctrine. [ C] Wheresoeuer true Faith is, there is the Church, saith S. Hie∣rom. sup. Psal. 133. Where Faith is, there is the Church, saith Saint Chrysostome: Where right Faith is not, there is not the true Church. Et Ecclesia est Hierusalem, cuius fundamenta posita sunt super montes Scripturarum: And the Church is Hierusalem, whose foundations are placed vpon the mountaines of the * 1.11 Scriptures: Eruite igitur aliquid manifestum, quo demonstretis Ec∣clesiam e 1.12. If therefore Papals will force vs to beleeue, that they are the only Catholicke Church, and that we must follow their Pope (though he lead vs to hell) f 1.13 bring something euident, and [ D] manifest out of the holy Scripture. Si diuinarum Scripturarum earum scilicet, quae canonicae in Ecclesia nominantur, perspicua firma∣tur Authoritate, sine vlla dubitatione credendum est. 〈◊〉〈◊〉 vero testibus vel testimonijs, quibus aliquid credendum esse suadetur tibi, credere vel non credere liceat, &c. If (saith S. Augustine) g 1.14 it be confirmed by the perspicuous authoritie of those diuine Scriptures which are Canonicall, it must, without all question, be beleeued: but as for other witnesses and testimonies, by which any thing is persuaded to be beleeued, it is lawfull for thee to beleeue or not [ E] beleeue them, as thou shalt perceiue them to deserue credit.

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IESVIT. [ A]

Fundamentall errours of the first kinde, Protestants haue 〈◊〉〈◊〉, particularly these Nine.

ANSWER.

Malice alwayes fighteth against Vertue, and laboureth to impose and rub off her owne faults vpon it, a 1.15 and all they whose brests and minds are inhabited by Satan, testifie their venemous [ B] rage with furious words b 1.16. If this Traducer be able to con∣uince the Protestants of Nine, or of any one fundamentall er∣rour, wee must acknowledge, that we are in a perillous state: but if hee onely depraue and falsifie our doctrine c 1.17, or affirme that to be fundamentall errour, which is diuine veritie, then he prooueth himselfe to be one of his Ministers, of whom S. Gre∣gory speaketh d 1.18, Perfidious dealing is in the Tabernacle of Antichrist, whereby he gainesayeth the faith of the Redeemer.

IESVIT.

First, their Doctrine against Traditions vnwritten, whereby the foundation is ouerthrowne, on which wee be∣leeue all other substantiall and fundamentall points, as hath beene shewed. [ D]

ANSVVER.

Either you wilfully falsifie, or ignorantly mistake the Pro∣testants Doctrine, concerning vnwrttten Tradition.

First, we admit in generall, all vnwritten Traditions, agreeing with the holy Scripture e 1.19, which are deriued from the Apo∣stles, and deliuered vnto vs, by the manifest and perpetuall te∣stimonie of the Primitiue Church f 1.20, and by the vniforme con∣sent of succeeding Churches in all ages.

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Secondly, we beleeue in particular, the historicall Traditions [ A] of the Primatiue, and succeeding Churches, concerning the dignitie, authoritie, perfection, authors, number, and integritie of the bookes of Canonicall Scripture a 1.21, and also the Histori∣call Tradition of the said Church, concerning the perpetuall virginitie of the blessed Virgin Marie b 1.22, and concerning the baptisme of infants c 1.23, and all other genuine Traditions, which maintaine the Faith and Doctrine, contained expressely, or by consequent in the Scripture.

Thirdly, we embrace such exposition of holy Scripture d 1.24, as being consonant to the rule of Faith, and to the text of Scripture, is affirmed by antient Tradition, to haue descended from the holy Apostles.

Fourthly, we beleeue the rule of Faith contained in the Apostles Creed e 1.25, both vpon the authoritie of Christs written word, and also vpon the voice and testimonie of vnwritten [ C] Tradition.

If it shall then be demanded, Wherefore do the Romists and you so eagrely contend about the question of Traditions? and wherein lies your difference? we answer as followeth.

First, we yeeld the highest and most soueraigne authoritie to [ D] the sacred Scripture f 1.26, and make the voice and sentence there∣of a supreame rule, and iudge of supernaturall Veritie; and we make Tradition vnwritten, subordinate, and ministeriall to ho∣ly Scripture, admitting the same so farre forth only, as it is con∣formable to the Scripture, and reiecting the contrarie.

Secondly, we affirme, that the Canonicall Scriprure contai∣neth all supernaturall Veritie necessarie to saluation, and being receiued and vnderstood, is a sufficient and perfect rule of

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Faith a 1.27, and the sole doctrine thereof is sufficient to instruct [ A] the whole Church, and euery member thereof to saluation. And, that Tradition vnwritten maketh no addition, or increase of new Articles of Faith, but is only an helpe and instrument b 1.28 to deliuer, applie, and interpret the doctrine expresly deliuered, or intended by the holy Ghost, in the Scripture.

Thirdly, we receiue no Tradition as diuine or apostolicall, but such as hath the plaine, manifest, and vniforme testimonie and approbation of the Primatiue Church c 1.29. But our Aduer∣saries either equall d 1.30, or preferre e 1.31 vnwritten Tradition be∣fore the Scripture, and they make Tradition a diuers and larger part of the rule of Faith, containing many Articles which are neither expressely, nor inuoluedly reuealed in the Scripture f 1.32, and they make the present Roman Church an infallible wit∣nesse of such Tradition, affirming, that we are bound to beleeue [ C] euerie Article, which the said Church g 1.33 deliuereth as a Tradi∣tion, with the same assurance of Faith, wherewith we beleeue any written testimonie of S. Paul, or the holy Euangelists. And many of them teach, That it is not necessarie to deriue Traditi∣on by a perpetuall descent, and current through all ages; but the voice of the present Church is sufficient to make any Ar∣ticle ctedible and authenticall to vs h 1.34.

Lastly, many particularopinions of antient Fathers (which they deliuered coniecturally or probably onely, and concer∣ning which they haue not affirmed, that they were diuine or apostolicall Traditions) are ranked by latter Pontificians in the number of diuine 〈◊〉〈◊〉, and made parts of the vndoubted word of God.

And thus the present Roman doctrine, concerning Traditi∣ons vnwritten, is a Seminarie of Errour, and by pretext hereof, Pontificians obtrude vpon the Church many prophane, fabu∣lous, [ E] and superstitious 〈◊〉〈◊〉, fansies, and nouelties re∣pugnant to holy Scripture, and the antient Catholicke Faith. Let therefore impartiall Readers consider, whether this Ro∣mish doctrine, debasing the sacred Scripture, and aduancing hu∣mane

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Traditions a 1.35 tendeth not to the corrupting of Christian [ A] Faith, and consequently, whether the same be not rather a fun∣damentall Errour, than an Orthodoxall Veritie? And on the contrarie, whether the doctrine of the Protestants, maintai∣ning the supreame authoritie of the sacred Scripture (which is Gods vndoubted word) and withall yeelding to genuine Tra∣dition, the credit and honour which the antient Church gaue thereunto, is not fundamentall Veritie, and a soueraigne meanes to preserue right Faith.

IESVIT.

Secondly, their questioning the infallibe authoritie of lawfull generall Councels, thereby casting downe the foun∣dation of Vnitie in Gods Church.

ANSWER. [ C]

They which will not permit generall Councels to assemble, or to proceed lawfully, and which oppose the decrees of anti∣ent Councels, are the Romists and not the Protestants.

First, The moderne Popes vsurpe the whole right and au∣thoritieof calling and conuocating Councells b 1.36, contrarie to the antient custome and practise of the Church c 1.37.

Secondly, They receiue and admit no Assessors and Iudges in Councels d 1.38 but onely their fast friends, to wit, men afore∣hand oblieged by solemne oath e 1.39, to proceed according to the will and purpose of the Pope.

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Thirdly, The Pope alone is appointed the authenticall [ A] Iudge of all causes and matters, which are concluded in Coun∣cels: he approoueth or refuseth whatsoeuer himselfe pleaseth, and all other Iudges and Assessors, are onely his shadowes and creatures a 1.40.

Fourthly, Whereas in words and tearmes they seeme to ad∣uance and magnifie the antient Oecumeniall Councells, affir∣ming that they honour them as the holy Euangelists, yet when they make against them, they regard them no more b 1.41 (as one of [ D] their owne part affirmeth c 1.42) than a couent of women pratling and chatting in a common bath, stoue, or Weauers shop. And this is apparant by their 〈◊〉〈◊〉 or falsifying the Councells of Nice d 1.43, Constantinople e 1.44, and Chalcedon f 1.45, when the same equal the Patriarke of Constantinople, or other Patriarchall Seas, to the Roman, or forbid the imposition of single life vp∣on the Clergie g 1.46; as also by the Councells of Basill, and Con∣stance, decreeing, that the Popes sentence is fallible.

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Cardinall Cusanus treating of generall Councells, deliuereth [ A] these ten Positions following:

First, That a perfect or compleate generall Councell, con∣sisteth of all the Patriarckes a 1.47 and prime Gouernours of the Church.

Secondly, That a Councell which is celebrated by the Ro∣mane Pontife, and those which are subiect to him onely, or ex∣cluding [ B] others, is a particular Councell b 1.48.

Thirdly, A generall Councell may bee celebrated, although the Pope refuse to ioyne and concurre, by his presence and consent c 1.49.

Fourthly, All which meet in Councells, ought to haue free audience and libertie, orderly to debate and determine matters in question d 1.50.

Fiftly, Whatsoeuer must oblige as diuine, vpon the deter∣mination of Councells, ought to be confirmed by the autho∣ritie of holy Scripture e 1.51.

Sixthly, No Councells are legitimate, wherein priuate respects are maintained, vnder pretext of Faith and Reli∣gion f 1.52.

Seuenthly, The Romane Bishop hath not that power which [ E] many flatterers heape vpon him, to wit, that he alone is to de∣termine, and others onely to consult or aduise g 1.53.

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Eightly, It is without all question, That a generall Councell [ A] properly taken; is both superiour to the rest of the Patriarchs, and also to the Romane Pope a 1.54.

Ninthly, Experience of things doth manifest, That a plena∣rie vniuersall Councell may be deficient; and wee reade, that many Councels lawfully assembled, haue erred b 1.55.

Tenthly, Whiles we defend, That the Pope is not vniuersall Bishop c 1.56, but onely the first Bishop ouer others, and whiles wee ground the power of sacred Councels vpon the consent of the whole Assembly, and not vpon the Pope, we maintaine Truth, and giue to euerie one his due honour. And then concluding the former Positions, the Cardinall saith d 1.57, I obserue little or nothing in antient Monuments, which agreeth not to these my As∣sertions.

With this Cardinall, agree many other famous Papists; Oc∣cham, Panormitan e 1.58, Almaine f 1.59, Cassander, Ferus, &c. and a∣mong the rest, Occham deliuereth these Positions:

First, That all generall Councels are inferiour to the holy Scriptures g 1.60, and that when S. Gregorie saith, That he honoureth the foure first generall Councels like as the foure Euangelists, this must be vnderstood, not of equalitie, but of similitude h 1.61, [ D] Matth. 5. 48.

Secondly, Councels are not called generall, because they are congregated by the authoritie of the Romane Pope i 1.62; and that if Princes and Lay-men please, they may be pre∣sent, and haue to deale with matters treated of in generall Councels k 1.63. [ E]

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Thirdly, Ecclesiasticall Dignitie, as it maketh not men holy, [ A] so it conferreth not infallibilitie of Iudgement a 1.64.

Fourthly, A generall Councell, or that Congregation which is commonly reputed a generall Councell by the World, may erre in matters of Faith b 1.65.

Ioh. Ferus commenting vpon the Acts, chap. 15. compareth the Apostles Councell with moderne, and saith c 1.66: In matters of Faith, and things which concerne the Conscience, it is not suffici∣ent to say, We will and command; but you must consider, in what manner the Apostles deale in their Assembly: They come together in simplicitie of heart, seeking onely Gods glorie, and the saluation of others; no meruaile therefore, if the Spirit of God was in this Councell. But our meeting is in another manner, namely, with great pompe, and seeking our selues, and promising to our selues licence (vpon [ C] fullnesse of Power) to doe any thing. And (this being so) how is it possible for the Spirit of God to approue such Assemblies?

Seeing therefore, by the confession of these learned Papists, latter Councels, celebrated by the meere and absolute authori∣tie of the Pope, are neither vniuersall d 1.67, nor of infallible Iudge∣ment; [ D] and (as experience testifieth) Papall Councels are ney∣ther free, nor proceed in debating and deciding matters con∣trouerted, according to the authoritie of the holy Scripture e 1.68; and that of later yeeres, and especially since Pope Gregorie the seuenth, they haue wholly intended their owne priuacie f 1.69: it is a malicious Censure which this Lojolist casteth vpon the Protestants, in charging them with fundamentall Heresie, for opposing the infallible authoritie of such Councels, and con∣sequently,

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with deiecting the foundation of Vnitie in Gods [ A] Church.

Protestants haue alwayes desired a lawfull generall Coun∣cell, for the concluding of differences in Religion a 1.70, and they are most readie and resolute to submit themselues to the de∣termination thereof b 1.71; and they yeeld the same honour and authoritie to all such Councels, which the antient Church in the dayes of Constantine the Great, Theodosius, and Martianus, and which S. Augustine did c 1.72; yea, which the more impartiall Romanes themselues, in precedent Ages, haue done. But the present Papalls will not endure a lawfull and impartiall Coun∣cell; [ B] and vnlesse themselues may be both Accusers, and Iud∣ges d 1.73, and proceed as their forefathers, the Pharisees, did a∣gainst the Apostles, determining all things by the Modell of their owne Cabala, they will admit no tryall by Councels e 1.74, nor any other meanes of Pacification, for restoring the com∣mon Vnitie of the Christian Church.

IESVIT. [ D]

THirdly, their denying of the Primacie of S. Peter, and * 1.75 his Successor; the Foundation which Christ laid of his Church, necessarie for the perpetuall gouernment thereof. Matth. 16. 18.

ANSWER.

PRotestants deny not the Primacie of S. Peter, but they yeeld vnto him, both as he was an Apostle, Primacie of Spirituall Authoritie, and Iurisdiction ouer the Vniuersall Church, Matth. 28.20. Ioh. 20.21. And also respectiuely to the other [ E] Apostles (which were his Compeeres and Equals a 1.76, in regard

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of all Apostolicall Authoritie) Primacie of Calling, Order, [ A] Grace, Gifts a 1.77, &c.

And the place of Saint Matthew, chap. 16.18. prooueth not Saint Peter to haue beene a visible Monarch ouer the whole Church.

First, Our Sauiour affirmeth not plainely and literally, that [ B] hee will build his Church vpon him, but vpon the Rocke: which hee confessed b 1.78, verse 16, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉, and not 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉; Vpon this Rocke, and not vpon this Peter: Non dictum est illi, Tu es Petra, sed, Tu es Petrus, Petra autem erat Christus; It was not said vnto him, Thou art the Rocke, but, Thou art Peter, for the Rocke was Christ. August. Retract. Lib. 1. cap. 21.

Secondly, If hee had affirmed expressely, That hee would build his Church vpon him; yet hee saith not exclusiuely, that hee would build the same onely vpon him, but in other places hee conioyneth the rest of the Apostles c 1.79 with him, Iohn. 20. 23. Eph. 2.20. Apoc. 21.14. Matth. 28.19.

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Thirdly, To be a Ministeriall Rocke, and foundation of the [ A] Church, is not to be the sole Monarch of the Church: because St. Peter might bee such, in regard of his Preaching and Do∣ctrine, as the other Apostles were, and not in respect of Mo∣narchicall dominion. Heereupon Turrecremate in his Sum. d. Eccles. lib. 2. cap. 11. saith, Non argumentati sumus Petrum prima∣tum habuisse quia dictus fuit fundamentum aut Petra Ecclesiae, sed quia singulariter, &c. Wee argue not, Saint Peter had the Pri∣macie, because he was called the Foundation, or Rocke of the Church, but because he was in a singular manner so called. But [ B] if the name of Rocke, argueth not St. Peters supremacie, the singular applying thereof in one Text of Scripture, will not doe it; both because the speaking to him in particular, is onely a circumstance, and relation of a matter, granted by the words of Rocke and Keyes, but no addition of any other essentiall gift: and also because the same Title, in tearmes equiualent, is elsewhere made common to other Apostles a 1.80.

The Iesuit addeth, That we denie the primacie of Peters Suc∣cessour: and that this Successour is the foundation of the Church, laid by Christ, and necessarie for the perpetuall go∣uernment of the same.

I answere, First, St. Peter, in one respect, to wit, in regard of his Apostolicall function, had no successour: for the Office of Apostles was extraordinarie, appointed by Christ, for the [ D] first planting of Faith; and consequently, it ceased with the A∣postles a 1.81. Immediate calling, Propheticall inspiration, the gifts of Miracles and Languages, authoritie ouer the whole Church, and all the ordinarie Pastours thereof, were proper to the holy Apostles; and if none succeed them in these gifts and prerogatiues, then it is manifest, that in respect of their Apostle∣ship b 1.82 they haue no Successours.

Secondly, In respect of ordinarie Ministerie, and in regard of the power and order of iurisdiction, St. Peter hath succes∣sours, in the same manner, as the rest of the Apostles: to wit,

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all Bishops and Pastours a 1.83, teaching (either where hee plan∣ted [ A] Churches, or in any other part of the world) the same Faith and Religion, which himselfe and his fellow Apostles did b 1.84.

Thirdly, That St. Peter hath a speciall Successour, differing [ B] in kinde, from the Successours of the rest of the Apostles, and which is to bee for euer, a visible Head and Monarch ouer the vniuersall Church, from whom all Ecclesiasticall power is de∣riued, and to whose sentence, in things diuine, euery Chrstian must submit himselfe; and that the Romane Bishop is the man, is deliuered as a prime Article of Christian Faith, by Papals a 1.85: but it is neither confirmed by the holy Scripture b 1.86, nor by any diuine Reuelation, neither is the same deliuered in the holy Apostles Creed, or by any antient generall Councell, or by the vnanimous consent of the Primatiue Fathers. And sundry [ C] Romists themselues haue made question of it c 1.87, and later Pontificians, doe with so many subtill sleights and inuentions propugne it, that all intelligent and impartiall men may plaine∣ly discerne, That this Doctrine of Papall Supremacie is builded vpon the sand.

For if the Romane Bishop had beene appointed and establi∣shed the perpetuall Successour of Saint Peter, in manner before mentioned: either our Sauiour himselfe would immediately, expreslly, and manifestly haue reuealed the same to his Church; or the holy Apostles would haue taken notice thereof, and de∣clared the same to others. Also Saint Peter must haue carried himselfe as a Monarch among the other Apostles, and exercised the actions of Soueraigntie in the visible Church. But we find [ E] in the holy Scripture, no supereminent iurisdiction, or Monar∣chicall actions exercised by him a 1.88, no vassallage and subiection

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yeelded him by the rest of the Apostles. And if hee must haue [ A] had a Successour in his Monarchie, the Apostles suruiuing him, b 1.89 should rather haue beene his Successours, than the ordinarie Pastours of one Diocesse. The Spirit of God also, together with so eminent authoritie, would haue conferred vpon 〈◊〉〈◊〉 Successours, extraordinarie graces, of Learning, Wisedome, Holinesse, &c. necessarie for so high a calling. Also it is not probable, that Eusebius, and other antient Ecclesiasticall Histo∣rians would altogether haue been silent of this Monarchicall authoritie of the Romane Bishop, neither would any Ortho∣doxe Father or generall Councell haue confined the Romane [ B] Pontife to equall bounds, with other Patriarkes. But the anti∣entest Ecclesiasticall Stories, are absolutely silent of such a swel∣ling * 1.90 preheminence as moderne Papals claime; and the Fathers and Councells contest the same. Pope Stephan was slighted by St. Cyprian, and the Bishops of Affrica d 1.91, when he enterposed in their affaires: and Pope Victor, by the Bishops of the East e 1.92. The Oecumenicall Councell of Chalcedon f 1.93, equalleth the Patriarch of Constantinople to the Bishop of Rome. Gregory the Great g 1.94 himselfe giueth the Papacie a deadly blow. And a [ C] great part of Christianitie h 1.95 hath euer to this day opposed the Papall Primacie. Therefore it is most improbable that this do∣ctrine should be fundamentall veritie, which hauing no 〈◊〉〈◊〉 or infallible grounds in diuine Reuelation, wanteth also the suf∣frages of all antient Ecclesiasticall Testimonie.

IESVIT.

FOurthly, Their denying the foundation of true 〈◊〉〈◊〉, which is one true Catholicke Christian faith, about reuealed Mysteries; bringing in a fantasticall faith, pre∣tending, [ E] That euery man is iustified, by beleeuing himselfe to be iust, or one of Gods Elect.

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ANSVVER. [ A]

YOu ought first to haue weighed our Doctrine, concerning the definition of Faith, and haue compared the same with the Tenet of sundrie of your owne Doctours, before you had accused vs of fundamentall Errour about the same.

First, We maintaine, that true Christian Catholicke Faith is a 〈◊〉〈◊〉 and foundation (to wit on mans part) of Iustification a 1.96, Heb. 11.6. Rom. 1.17. Iud. v. 20.

Secondly, We denie that euery man is iustified, by only be∣leeuing himselfe to be iust; for he must be truely iust, before he can, or ought to beleeue himselfe to be so b 1.97. The promise of remission of sinnes is conditionall c 1.98, Esa. 1.16, 17, 18. Ezec. [ C] 18. 21. Pro. 28. 13. Math. 6.14, 15. Iohn 15. 10. & 16, 27. Heb. 5.9. and the same becommeth not absolute, vntill the con∣dition be fulfilled, either actually, or in desire and preparation of mind: and the full assurance of remission of sinnes d 1.99 suc∣ceedeth Repentance, Faith, Obedience, and Mortification, 1. Iohn 3.19, 20, 21, 22.

Thirdly, We denie, that it is an action of Christian Faith, praeuious or fundamentall to Iustification, for a man to be∣leeue himselfe to be one of Gods elect; and admitting that one do not attaine the certainetie of Faith, but of Hope onely, that he is elected e 1.100: if there be no other impediment found in him, besides this, we make no question but such a person may be 〈◊〉〈◊〉.

Wherein then lyeth the fundamentall errour, concerning Faith and Iustification, wherewith we are reproched? If it be answered, That we erre fundamentally, by making sauing

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Faith, not only an intellectuall, but also a fiduciall assent a 1.101 to the [ A] promise of the Gospell b 1.102; the 〈◊〉〈◊〉 must remember, that many of his owne Doctours affirme the same. Vega. d. Iustiff. lib. 14. Fides in Scripturis 〈◊〉〈◊〉 idem est quod fidueia, & 〈◊〉〈◊〉 idem quod considere, Faith in the Scriptures is many times the same that Trust; and, to beleeue, the same that to trust. Ian∣senius c 1.103 Concord. Euang. cap. 32. The name of Faith in the Gospell, when Saluation is ascribed vnto it, containeth both firme assent, &c. and also considence and trust conceiued vpon the apprehension of his 〈◊〉〈◊〉 and goodnesse. Adam. Sasboth. d 1.104 sup. Rom. 1. v. 17. The word Faith in S. Pauls desputation, containeth not only As∣sent, [ B] but also Trust in Christ the Mediatour. Ferus e 1.105 sup. Math. Non semper Fides est, quod nos Fidem dicimus, &c. That which we call Faith, to wit, to assent to such things as are reported in diuine Histories, and which the Church propoundeth to beleeue, is not al∣waies Faith, &c. for the Scripture speaketh of Faith in another manner; for according to it, Faith is a trust in the diuine mercie, promised by Christ: with these also concurre, Guilliaudus f 1.106, Frede∣ricus Nausea g 1.107: and Suares h 1.108 saith, Multi Catholici putant sae∣pe accipi in Scriptura Fidem pro fiducia, Many Catholicks think, that Faith is oftentimes taken in holy Scripture, for Trust. [ C]

The Iesuit therefore wanted matter to fraught his papers, when he obiected this Article against vs, as a fundamentall er∣rour. For if his owne Doctours, and the holy Scripture it selfe i 1.109, take the word Faith in this notion, wherein haue we merited so grieuous a sentence? But I haue produced many famous Doctours of his owne part, which say expresly the same that we doe, concerning the signification of the word [ E] Faith, when it is said to iustifie: and in steed of many other

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Texts, I referre him to the places of Scripture following, Iam. [ A] 1.6. Math. 9. v. 2. 22. & cap. 14.31. Rom. 9.33. 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉, &c. Euery one that beleeueth vpon him, 1. Pet. 2.6. Now in regard of the matter of our Doctrine, the assurance of remission of sinnes, which we teach, is no other, than S. Bernard, Iohn Bacon the Carmelite, Caietan, Catherinus, Ferus, and many other Ponti∣ficians haue formerly taught. Caietan sup. Rom. 8. a 1.110 We haue from the holy Ghost, and our owne, a most sufficient testimonie, to make vs beleeue, that we are the sonnes of God: for by this testimonie, we cleerely discerne, that we ought to beleeue, that we are the sonnes of God. And S. Bernard b 1.111, If thou beleeuest that he only can blot out thine [ B] offences, whom thou hast offended, it is well: but ioine this also to the former, that by him thy sinnes are forgiuen thee. This is the testimo∣nie which the holy Spirit yeeldeth in our hearts, saying, Thy sinnes are remitted vnto thee: and in this sort doth the holy Apostle thinke, that a man is freely iustified by Faith.

Now from the precedent positions, I argue thus: [ C]

First, That Doctrine concerning the nature and actions of Faith, which is taught in holy Scripture c 1.112, and which hath the consent of many antient Fathers d 1.113, and which was deliuered by many learned Doctors of the Roman Church e 1.114, is not fun∣damentall Errour. But such is the Doctrine of Protestants con∣cerning iustifying Faith, &c.

Secondly, No Church erreth fundamentally, which teacheth such a kind of iustifying Faith as Abraham, Iob, S. Paul, and other iust persons (commended in holy Scriptures) had.

But Abraham, Iob, S. Paul, and other iust persons (commen∣ded in holy Scriptures) had such a iustifying Faith, as was both an intellectuall and fiduciall assent to diuine Veritie and Pro∣mises. Ergo,

The Church of the Protestants erreth not fundamentally, [ E] teaching such a iustifying Faith, as is both an intellectuall and fiduciall assent to diuine Promises and Verities.

The assumption is prooued by Rom. 4.18, 19, 20, 21. Iob 19. 25. Rom. 8.38. Gal. 2.20. 2. Tim. 4.7. And whereas Pontifici∣ans

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bequarrel vs in this argument, two waies: First, saying That [ A] these holy men had a particular promise made vnto them: Secondly, That they knew by extraordinarie Reuelation, that they were indued with Faith, Hope, and Charitie, which wee know only by coniecturall, or morall persuasion.

I answer, First, we haue particular promises contained in the generall, and the generall promises are particularly applied by the word of Absolution, and the Sacraments, and by the te∣stimonie of the holy Ghost, speaking in the conscience of true beleeuers by effects of Grace a 1.115.

Secondly, they which want miraculous Reuelation, may vn∣derstand, by ordinarie Grace, that they haue Faith, Hope, and Charitie, because the holy Scripture commandeth all Christi∣an beleeuers to trie and examine themselues concerning these [ C] Graces, 1. Cor. 11, 28. 2. Cor. 13.5. And godly persons which liued in former daies, knew they had these vertues, Psal. 119. 97. Esa. 38.3. Iob 27.5, 6. & 29.14. Luc. 9.24. Ioh. 21.15. And the Apostle speaking of other people, as well as of himselfe, saith, We know the things which are freely giuen vs of God b 1.116, 1. Cor. 2. 12. And S. Iohn saith, That he which receiueth the hidden Manna knowes it, Apoc. 2. 17. The Fathers also, and many Doctors of the Roman Church affirme the same. S. Augustine c 1.117, I see that I beleeue, if I beleeue: and in another place d 1.118, These two things are not vncertaine to me, the goodnesse of God, and mine owne Faith: [ D] and in another place e 1.119, Let euerie man enter into his owne heart, and if he find there brotherly Charitie, let him be secure, for he is passed from death vnto life: and in a fourth place f 1.120, 〈◊〉〈◊〉 man knoweth the Charitie wherewith he loueth his brother, better than his brother.

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vs concerning this question, may the better appeare, I will de∣liuer [ A] our Doctrine in certaine propositions.

First, We maintaine, that such persons only can haue true assurance and certaintie of their Iustification, which beleeue and repent, and are resolued to obey Gods commandements a 1.121.

Secondly, A Christian of a contrite spirit, beleeuing only that his sinnes are remissible, and which earnestly desireth re∣mission of sinnes by the merits of Christ, and ioineth with this desire the exercise of vertue; receiueth forgiuenesse, al∣though he be vexed with scruples and temptations, and want [ C] assurance, and persuasion in himselfe, that his sinnes are re∣mitted b 1.122.

Thirdly, The particular certaintie of remission of sinnes which iust persons attaine vnto vpon their Repentance, Obe∣dience, and Faith, is not equall in the firmitie of assent to that assurance which they haue about the common obiect of Faith, to wit, concerning the articles of Creation, Trinitie, Incarnati∣on, Resurrection, or the like c 1.123, because these articles are imme∣diately and totally reuealed in the holy Scripture; but that his sinnes in particular are remitted, vnto a penitent person, depen∣deth

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vpon an Argument, whereof one part onely is immediate∣ly [ A] the Word of God, and the other part is a collection arising vpon reflection, and obseruation of a mans owne qualities and actions, and the conclusion is more or lesse certaine a 1.124; according to the condition of the second Proposition.

Fourthly, The certaintie and assurance of their owne parti∣cular Iustification, which iust persons attaine vnto, is reduced by vs to certaintie and assurance of Faith, because one ground thereof is a Proposition, or Sentence, mediately Diuine; the other is inferred and concluded from that which is Diuine: for the Rule by which a man discerneth himselfe, to beleeue [ B] and repent, is the Doctrine of Gods Word, declaring the qua∣litie of Faith and Repentance.

Many Pontificians maintaine, That this Proposition, to wit, Pope Gregorie the fifteenth is S. Peters Successor, is of Faith b 1.125; and yet the same is not an immediate Diuine Reuelation, and the collection thereof from that which is reuealed, is lesse eui∣dent and certaine, than that which a iust person maketh concer∣ning his owne particular Faith and Charitie.

Fiftly, The difference betweene some learned Papists (who liued since the Trident Councell) and vs, concerning this [ C] Question, is very small (if it be any at all) for they maintaine, That iust persons may haue a true and certaine assurance, with∣out distrustfull doubting of their Iustification c 1.126; and that in∣fused Faith enclineth and leadeth immediately to this cer∣taintie and assurance d 1.127. And it is worthie obseruation which Andreas Vega deliuereth concerning the Trident Councell, saying, Non negat sciri hoc posse per fidem, sed tantum negat sciri hoc posse certitudine fidei e 1.128: The Councell denyeth not, that one may be able to know by Faith, that he is in the state of Grace; but it deny∣eth onely, that this can be knowne by certaintie of Faith. [ D]

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which is in their owne eye: for they make such a Faith, the [ A] foundation of true Iustification, as is common with Deuils a 1.129, Iam. 2. 19. and which, according to their owne Doctrine, is no true Vertue. It is (saith Michael Palacius b 1.130) a great Question, and as yet vndecided among vs, Whether Faith be a true Vertue, or not? and Albertus thinketh, it is not properly a Vertue, but onely improperly. Aquinas, It hath not a perfect Act, and therefore it cannot be a Vertue. The like is affirmed by Bonauenture, Du∣rand, Archangelus Rubeo, &c. And the same is manifest by rea∣son: For Vertue is a good qualitie, making the person in whom it is seated, and his actions, good c 1.131; and the Faith which the [ B] holy Scripture and the antient Fathers require to Iustificati∣on d 1.132, purifieth the heart, Acts 15.9. and impelleth vnto righ∣teousnesse, Heb. 11. 33. But informed Catholike Faith perfor∣meth none of these things, Iam. 2. 17. And therefore the Ro∣mists depart from the Scripture, and from Antiquitie, when they appoint a dead and informed Faith, which is no Vertue, to be the foundation of true Iustification.

Lastly, Our Doctrine concerning the forme and manner of Iustification, is the same which Peter Lombard e 1.133, the Maister of the Schoole, affirmed to be Orthodoxall in his dayes: His words are these, Wee are said also to be iustified by the death of Christ, because by the Faith of his Death, wee are cleansed from our sinnes: Whereupon the Apostle saith, The righteousnesse of God is [ D] by the Faith of Iesus Christ (Rom. 3. 22.) whom God hath set forth, to be a propitiation through Faith in his bloud (Verse 25.) that is through Faith of his Passion; euen as in times past, they which were bitten of fierie Serpents, were made whole by looking vpon the Brazen Serpent, which was raysed vpon a peece of Wood. If therefore wee by the aspect of Faith rightly behold him, who was hanged vpon a Tree for vs, wee are loosed from the bonds of Sathan, to wit, from our sinnes.

〈◊〉〈◊〉 Vega affirmeth, That many Romane Doctors in for∣mer

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dayes, denyed that men were formally iustified by any created [ A] qualitie inhaerent, but onely by the free grace and fauour of God, ac∣cepting man, and imparting the righteousnesse of Christ vnto him. And that vntill the Trident Councell, the present Doctrine of Ponti∣ficians, concerning the formall cause of Iustification, was onely recei∣ued as probable a 1.134. And before the said Councell, many learned Papists, to wit, Albertus Pighius, the Councell of Colen, set forth by Gropper, Antididagma Coloniense, Conradus Clingius, &c. maintained our Doctrine concerning the formall cause of Iu∣stification, and were not condemned of Heresie by the Romane Church: Wherefore the same cannot in these dayes be a fun∣damentall [ B] Error in vs.

IESVIT. [ C]

FIftly, Their extenuating the value of the price of our Redemption, not making it sufficient to giue inward sanctitie and puritie to mens soules, nor to rayse the good Workes of Gods children to a due proportion with their reward.

ANSWER.

NO Christian Church euer prised the oblation and merits [ D] of Christ more highly and religiously than wee, Heb. 10. 14. Eph. 5.2. Acts 4. 12. Ioh. 1.29. and wee firme∣ly beleeue the inestimable price and vertue thereof a 1.135, for mans Redemption, Sanctification, Iustification, and Glorification, 1. Cor. 1. 30. And in particular wee beleeue expressely, and contrarie to our Aduersaries accusation, That the same is all∣sufficient to iustifie a sinner in the sight of God, and to giue true and inhaerent sanctitie and puritie to mens soules, and actions: first, in this life, sanctitie and puritie, secundum statum viae, accor∣ding

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to the condition of mans wayfaring state: secondly, in [ A] the life to come, sanctitie and puritie of perfect righteousnesse, without error or sinne. And we beleeue, that the Sacrifice of Christ vpon the Crosse effecteth all this, both by way of merit and influence a 1.136, Rom. 6. 3, 4, 5. Ioh. 15. 1. &c.

What then doth this Popish Momus accuse in our Doctrine? I suppose, his owne fancie: for it is ordinarie with Papals to [ B] calumniate, saying, That wee hold Good workes to be mortall sinnes b 1.137, and that they are Vertues onely by extrinsecall denomination: and hee is also offended, that wee make not Good workes properly and condignely meritorious.

Concerning the first, I referre my Reader to the words of Melancthon c 1.138, and Beza d 1.139, who treating of this Question, speake as followeth: Although the workes of regenerate persons are not so perfect and good, as that they are able to merit eternall [ C] life, yet they are truly good, because they proceed from the Holy Ghost, who purisieth the heart by Faith, and because God is glorified by them, and wee our selues receiue excellent fruit e 1.140 by them, &c. The same are good, in regard of their obiect, forme, efficient, and end, Psal. 119. 167. Galath. 5.22. Phil. 2.13. 1. Cor. 10.31. They are good fruits, opposed to euill fruits, Matth. 7.17. workes of Light, opposed to workes of Darknesse, Eph. 5.9. a spirituall Sa∣crifice, acceptable to God, Phil. 4.18. And the same are truly good f 1.141, non comparatione scelerum, not comparatiuely onely, but Regula virtutum, according to the Rule of Vertue. August. [ D] c. 2. Ep. Pelag. lib. 4. cap. 10.

The imperfection and sinne g 1.142 which is adiacent and conco∣mitant to the vertuous actions of iustmen, changeth not their

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kind, because the same is freely remitted: Et quicquid alias in [ A] 〈◊〉〈◊〉 vitij est, Christi puritate sepultum non imputatur, saith 〈◊〉〈◊〉. Whatsoeuer defect or fault is otherwise found in them, being couered with Christs puritie, is not imputed a 1.143. And this Doctrine concerning the imperfection of good Workes, as they are considered in themselues (in this life) is deliuered, both by the Fathers, and by many learned Pontificians. Andreas Ve∣ga d. Iustif, lib. 11. c. 38 b 1.144. It is not onely true, that the life of all iust men, is daily spotted with many veniall sinnes, but the very workes of perfect men, are very deficient, from that goodnesse where∣by it beseemed vs, to haue serued, praised, and honoured God: for [ B] they are conioyned with many Imperfections, whiles men liue heere; neither are they so pure, holy, and feruent, as the largenesse of 〈◊〉〈◊〉 goodnesse and bountie towards vs requires, and many good workes are now performed by vs, without any blot of sinne, which notwithstanding, if God should deale strictly with vs, were vnrigh∣teousnesse. To the like purpose speaketh Cassalius c 1.145 d. quadri∣part. Iust. lib. 3. cap. 23. The Councell of Colen d 1.146 d. Sacram. p. 132. Maubnrn. Roset. Exerc. Spirit. tit. 32. part. 2. d. 4. c. 3. m. 2. Didacus. Stella. sup. Luc. ca. 18. And many other, which I haue cited in my Defence of Dr. Iohn White, pa. 20. [ C]

Concerning the second branch of the Iesuites accusation, [ E] to wit, That Protestants extenuate the price of Christs redemption, not making it sufficient to raise the good Workes of Gods children, to

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a due proportion, with the reward. I answere: That if by due [ A] proportion, &c. he vnderstand a dignitie in Good workes, 〈◊〉〈◊〉 to the reward, then he must condemne Saint Paul himselfe, for ex∣tenuating the price of Christs redemption, who saith, That the sufferings (Martyrdomes) of this present time, are not worthie to bee compared with the glorie that shall bee reuealed in vs, Rom. 8. 18. St. Hierom. sup. Eph. 2. Nec affirmare licet, merita nostra, ex aequo Dei gratiae & misericordiae respondere, alioqui perperam dixisset Pau∣lus, Rom. 8. Non sunt condignae passiones, &c. It is vnlawfull to affirme, that our merits are equall to the grace and mercie of God, for then St. Paul had spoken amisse, saying, The sufferings [ B] of this life, are not worthie, &c. Saint Chrysost. Imperf. in Math. Hom. 53. What haue we wrought in this world, to merit communion with God in his celestiall kingdome, and therefore the Apostle spea∣keth iustly: I doe not thinke the passions of this life (condignely) wor∣thie of future glory, &c. sup. Rom. Hom. 14. The Apostle in euery place laboureth to shew vs, that all which God doth for vs, is not of debt, but of meere grace: Leo d. Assumpt. serm. 1. Neque de qualitate operum pendet coelestium mensura donorum. The measure of celestiall gifts, depends not vpon the qualitie of workes. Saint August. sup. Ioh. tr. 3. Non pro merito accipias vitam ae∣ternam, [ C] sed tantum pro gratia: Thou shalt not receiue eternall life for thy merit, but onely for grace. Origen. sup. Rom. 4. I can∣not persuade my selfe, that any worke of man can challenge reward vp∣on debt, because wee receiue our power, to thinke, speake, and doe good, by the gift and larges of God. Saint Basil. sup. Psal. 114 a 1.147. Eternall rest abideth for them which haue lawfully striuen, not as due debt to bee rendred to their workes, but for the grace of the most bountifull God, in whom they haue trusted. Saint Bernard. serm. 1. Annunc. Mariae. Concerning life eternall, we know, that the pas∣sions of this life are not worthie of future glorie, no not if one man [ D] should endure them all. Neither are the merits of men such, as that therefore eternall life is due to them in right, or that God should wrong man, if he should not bestow the same vpon him, &c.

The arrogant and foolish opinion of moderne Papists, con∣cerning the merit of condignitie, was alwayes opposed by Pontificians b 1.148 themselues c 1.149, Scotus, Durand, Marsilius ab Inguen. Dionisius Cistertiensis, Gregorie Arminine, Thomas Walden.

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Paulus Burgensis, Ioh. Ferus, Eckius a 1.150, Pighius b 1.151, &c. And many [ A] who propugne the doctrine of merit of condignitie, equiuo∣cate, and speake improperly c 1.152. Paulus Cararia Theolog. Mor. & Canon. Reg. 1. ar. 3. p. 2. Stricte loquendo, non 〈◊〉〈◊〉 meritum condigni, inter nos & Deum: If a man will speake properly and strictly, there is no merit of Condignitie betweene God and vs. Baltassar Nauaret. sup. 1. par. Thom. q. 21. ar. 1. ca. 28. pa. 603. God is said to bee a debtour to man, by a certaine Hyperbole. Gene∣brard. sup. Psal. 19. v. 13. Opera sunt longe infra retributiones, Good workes are farre inferiour to the reward.

And whereas some Pontificians say, d 1.153 that God were vniust, if he did not condignely reward good Workes: Durand e 1.154 af∣firmeth that this speech is blasphemous.

They are miserably diuided and distracted, about their do∣ctrine of merit of Condignitie, like the builders of the Tower of Babell.

First, Some of them simply and absolutely denie it f 1.155.

Secondly, Some say good Workes are meritorious only, by reason of the promise and acceptation of God, and these also vpon the matter denie it g 1.156.

Thirdly, Others affirme, they merit condignely, by the verie nature and dignitie of the work, secluding the diuine Promise h 1.157.

Fourthly, Others affirme, that merit of workes, is founded, partly vpon the dignitie of the worke, and partly vpon the promise of God i 1.158.

Fiftly, Some of them hold, that God rewardeth according [ E] to the rule of commutatiue Iustice k 1.159; others say, according to distributiue l 1.160; and others, according to both m 1.161.

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Now considering this vncertaintie of Popish Faith, in the [ A] matter of merit, and also the opposition thereof by so many of great note among themselues; the Iesuit was ouer precipitate in condemning Protestants of fundamentall errour, for not beleeuing that Doctrine, the certainetie whereof, himselfe, and his Colleagues are not able to deliuer.

But the Protestant Doctrine, concerning good Works, is perspicuous, orthodoxall, consenting with the holy Scripture, and the antient Church, and tendeth both to the honour of God, and the aduancing of the Grace of, Christ and also to the [ B] promoting of the care and studie of good Works.

First, we beleeue that good Works are necessarie to saluati∣on a 1.162, and that all men which will be saued must carefully applie themselues to the practise and exercise thereof. Tit. 3.8. Ioh. 15. 2.8. Heb. 12.14. Apoc. 22.14.

Secondly, God rewardeth good Works of his bountie and grace b 1.163 with benefits spirituall and temporall. Gen. 22.16. 〈◊〉〈◊〉. [ C] 6.35.2. Iohn v. 8.

Thirdly, in giuing reward, he considereth the mind and qua∣litie of the doer, the integritie, measure, and quantitie of the worke. 2. Cor. 9.6.

Fourthly, the reward is certaine c 1.164 and infallible, yea more certaine than any temporall benefit which man presently in∣ioies in the world, Gen. 22.16.

Fiftly, there is in all good Works a dignitie, not of desert or equiparance, either in respect of God, of whom we can de∣serue nothing d 1.165, or in respect of the reward, but only of grace, diuine similitude, goodnesse, and honour. Phil. 4.8.

Sixtly, the reward of good workes is called a crowne of righteousnes e 1.166, 2. Tim. 4. 8. because it is bestowed on them [ E] which exercise righteousnes, and in regard of their righteous∣nes:

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but merit of condignitie and righteousnes are 〈◊〉〈◊〉 [ A] tstings, as appeareth in Angels and Infants which haue righte∣ousnes, and are crowned with glorie, and yet they doe not merit.

Seuenthly, the antient Fathers maintained no merit of con∣dignitie, but by the word Mereri, they vnderstood either to obtaine a 1.167, or to impetrate b 1.168: and this is manifest, because they applie the word (Merit) not only to iust men, but also to sinners, saying, that they merited Repentance, remission of Sinnes, the calling of Grace, &c.

Eithtly, the prime part of mans iustice is the remission of his sinnes c 1.169, and the righteousnes of Faith; for without these, there can be no true and liuing morall righteousnes, and where these are found, good Workes are neuer wanting.

IESVIT.

SIxtly, Their errours against Baptisme, the gate and en∣trance into Christian life, whereof they deny the vertue to sanctifie men, and the 〈◊〉〈◊〉 thereof for infants, to whom they grant Saluation without Baptisme.

ANSWER. [ D]

ALthough some persons haue been Christians before their Baptisme, as S. Augustine a 1.170 saith of Cornelius. Euen as in Abraham the justice of Faith was precedent, and the seale of Circumcision followed after: so likewise in Cornelius, spirituall Sanctification, by the gift of the holy Ghost, went before, and the Sa∣crament of regeneration in the lauer of Baptisme succeeded, yet not∣withstanding, the ordinarie gate and entrance into Christian life, is Baptisme. S. Ambrose (siue Prosper) d. vocat Gentium, lib. 1. cap. 5 c 1.171. The beginning of true life and righteousnesse, is laid in the Sacrament of Regeneration, that looke where man is new borne, there [ E] also the veritie of Vertues themselues may spring.

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Neither do Protestants deny the vertue and efficacie of Bap∣tisme, [ A] to sanctifie men, but according to the holy Scriptures, Eph. 5.26. Tit. 3.5. Gal. 3.27.1. Pet. 3.21. Acts 22.16. Rom. 6.3. and the antient Church a 1.172, they teach and maintaine, That this Sacrament is an instrument of Sanctification, and remission of sinnes. The Liturgie of the Church of England, in the forme of administration of Baptisme, hath these words: Seeing now D. B. that these children be regenerate, &c. Wee yeeld thee heartie thankes most mercifull Father, that it hath pleased thee to regenerate this infant, with thy holy Spirit, to receiue him for thine owne child by adoption, &c. And master Hooker b 1.173 saith, Baptisme is a Sacrament [ B] which God hath instituted in his Church, to the end, that they which re∣ceiue the same, might therby be incorporated into Christ, and so through his most pretious merit, obtaine as wel that sauing Grace of Imputation, which taketh away all former guiltinesse, and also that infused diuine vertue of the holy Ghost, which giueth to the powers of the soule their first disposition towards future newnesse of life. Zanchius c 1.174 hath these words: When the Minister baptiseth, I beleeue that Christ with his hand reached as it were from heauen, besprinkleth the child baptised with water, with his bloud, to remission of sinnes. And in another place d 1.175, The holy Ghost mooueth vpon the water of Baptisme, and san∣ctifieth [ C] the same, making it to be a lauer of Regeneration. Caluin e 1.176 saith, Per Baptismum Christus nos mortis suae fecit participes, vt in eam inseramur, By Baptisme, Christ hath made vs partakers of his death, that we may be ingraffed into it. And in another place f 1.177, If any man demand, How can infants which want vnderstanding be regenerate? I answer, Although we are not able to fadome or vnfold the manner of this Worke of God, 〈◊〉〈◊〉 it followeth not from thence, that the same is not done.

And the same author, with others of his part, maintaine the former Doctrine concerning the efficacie of the Sacrament of Baptisme, and they differ only from Lutherans and Pontifici∣ans. [ E] First, In that they restraine the grace of Sanctification only to the elect g 1.178. Secondly, In that they deny externall Baptisme to be alwaies effectuall, at the very instant time when it is admi∣nistred h 1.179. But our Aduersaries must be ouer rigid, if they shall

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censure questions of this nature, which are touching circum∣stance, [ A] so hardly, as to make euery such difference a fundamen∣tall errour, especially because some among themselues (as the Master of the schole reporteth a 1.180) affirme the same.

Thirdly, whereas the Obiector addeth, that Protestants de∣nie the necessitie of Baptisme for Infants, granting them Salua∣tion without Baptisme; he must vnderstand, that necessitie is ei∣ther [ B] absolute, or else of precept and supposition. We verily maintaine the latter necessitie of Baptisme, for the saluation of Infants, against the Pelagians and Anabaptists: and the contempt and wilfull neglect of this holy Sacrament is damnable to such as are guiltie of this contempt: and our Church b 1.181 prouideth di∣ligently, that all Infants (if it be possible) may receiue Baptisme before they depart this life. But if it fall out ineuitable c 1.182, that new borne babes, descending of Christian parents, cannot re∣ceiue this Sacrament, not onely Protestants, but the antient Church it selfe, and discreeter Papists, haue thought it more [ C] pious to hope of Gods indulgence towards such infants, than to aggrauate his vengeance with such rigour and extremitie, as the Trent Fathers d 1.183, and their disciples e 1.184 do.

First, the antient Church allotted onely two seasons f 1.185 in the yeare for Baptisme, which they could not in their charitie haue thus restrained to set times, if they had beene persuaded [ D] as moderne Papals are.

Secondly, Gerson g 1.186, Biel h 1.187, and Caietan i 1.188, with many other famous Pontificians k 1.189, affirme, That Infants departing this life without Baptisme, may be saued by the speciall Grace of God, and by the prayers and faith of their parents. And the words of Thomas Elysius l 1.190, a late Pontifician, are very remarkeable, saying, Opinio quam tenent Theologi plurimi, & Ecclesia secun∣dum communem legem, est satis dura & onerosa, & non conformis [ E]

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preceptis Christi quae sunt suauia & leuia. The opinion of many [ A] Diuines, which is commonly holden by the Church (concer∣ning the damnation of Infants, deceasing without Baptisme) is ouer hard and rigid, and in no sort conformeable to the pre∣cepts of Christ, which are sweet and easie. And the same Au∣thour: Non est haeretica, cum non sit contra Fidem Catholicam, sea ei conformis, & maxime secundum fidei pietatem. This opinion (which propugneth the saluation of Infants vnbaptised) is not hereticall, for it is conformeable, and not repugnant to Catho∣like faith, and most conformeable to pietie.

To Elysius, I adde Cassander, a 1.191 a moderate and peaceable Ro∣mane, [ B] in his Booke d. Baptismo Infantum, which with many authorities and weightie Arguments, defendeth the same do∣ctrine concerning Infants, against the common straine of rigo∣rous Pontificians.

And thus againe, our braine-sicke Aduersarie fighteth against pietie and humanitie, obiecting that against Protestants as a [ C] fundamentall errour, which moderate Romists themselues propugne, as the more safe and tollerable Doctrine.

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SEauenthly, Their errour against Reall Presence, which they denie, or else the mayne Article of the Creed, That Christ is still in heauen, at the right hand of his [ D] Father: for they will not allow a bodie in two places at once.

ANSWER.

THe more learned Iesuites themselues, acknowledge b 1.192, That Protestants beleeue the reall Presence of Christs Bodie and Blood, in the holy Eucharist; and our Di∣uines deliuer their Faith concerning the Sacrament in this [ E]

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manner a 1.193: God forbid wee should denie, that the flesh and bloud of [ A] Christ are truly present, and truly receiued of the faithfull at the Lords Table: it is the Doctrine wee teach others, and comfort our selues with.

The difference then betweene Papals and vs, is not concer∣ning the obiect, or matter receiued in and by the Sacrament, [ B] but touching the manner of Presence, and the manner of Re∣ceiuing. Caluin b 1.194 saith thus concerning the difference, That the bodie and bloud of Christ are communicated to vs in the holy Eucharist, none of vs denie; the question is, concerning the manner of this communication.

The sacred Scripture neither expressely, nor yet by any for∣mall consequence, teacheth the Doctrine of Transubstantiati∣on (as some learned Papists c 1.195 themselues confesse) neither is [ C] this Doctrine any part of the antient Catholique Faith (as some other among them say d 1.196.)

The Fathers are against Transubstantiation: The mysticall signes (saith Theodoret e 1.197) doe not, after sanctification, depart from their owne nature, but remaine in their former substance, figure, and [ D] forme. The Sacraments which wee receiue of the bodie and bloud of Christ (saith Pope Gelasius f 1.198) are a diuine thing, and by them wee are made partakers of the Diuine Nature; and yet for all that, the nature of Bread and Wine ceaseth not to be. After consecra∣tion (saith S. Chrysostome g 1.199) it is deliuered from the name of Bread, and reputed worthie to be called the Lords Bodie: notwith∣standing, the nature of Bread still remaineth. The signes, as touching the substance of the creatures, are the same after consecration, which they were before (saith Bertram. h 1.200.)

To the other part of the Iesuits speech, Or else the maine Ar∣ticle, [ E] &c. I answer, first, we cannot graunt, That one indiuidu∣all Bodie may be in many distant places at one and the same instant, vntill the Papals demonstrate the possibilitie hereof by

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testimonie of sacred Scripture, or by the antient Tradition of [ A] the Primitiue Church, or by apparent reason. And if they shall except, saying, That they make not Christs bodie locally present in many places at once, but substantially a 1.201 onely; wee say with Augustine b 1.202, Spacia locorum tolle corporibus & nusquam erunt, & quia nusquam erunt, nec erunt, Take away their places from bodies, and the bodies shall be no where; and if they shall be no where, they shall haue no being. And in another place c 1.203, Corpora non possunt esse, nisi in loco; Bodies cannot be, but in some place. And againe d 1.204, Christus homo secundum cor∣pus, [ B] in loco est, & de loco migrat, & cum ad alium locum venerit in eo loco, vnde venit, non est; The man Christ is in a place, accor∣ding to his Bodie, and hee passeth from place to place; and when hee commeth to another place, hee is not in that place from whence hee came.

The Papals paralogize, saying, That because circumscripti∣on and localitie are not of the essence of the bodie e 1.205, there∣fore by the omnipotent power of God, the bodie may be without them. But if this illation be good, then wee may likewise inferre, That because to be created, made, or begot∣ten, is not of the definition of humane bodies f 1.206, therefore hu∣mane bodies, by the omnipotencie of God, may be increate, and without beginning. The learned Iulius Scaliger g 1.207 spea∣keth [ D] in this manner: (Tametsi quod non includitur in definitione, abesse potest, à definito in definitione, non omne tamen abesse potest, à re definita. Propria enim quae vocantur, in definitione non ponuntur, à re tamen abesse nequeunt, cuius propria sunt, Etsi namque sunt na∣tura suis subiectis posteriora, non tamen re, &c. Qua necessitate, coniunctum cum corpore locum, arbitror.) Although that which is not included in the definition, may be separated from the thing defi∣ned, in the very definition, yet it cannot be parted from the subiect, or thing, which is defined: for the essentiall properties of things are not placed in the definition, yet they cannot be diuided from the [ E] subiect, whose properties they be: And although by posterioritie of nature, they follow the subiects, yet indeed they are inseparable. And thus, place or circumscription is inseparably conioyned with a bodie.

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Secondly, The bodie of Christ in the Eucharist, hath mag∣nitude, [ A] and quantitie, as Aquinas a 1.208 and other Schoolemen b 1.209 commonly teach. But things which haue magnitude, and quantitie, are diuisible, and limitted and confined to a certaine space, and measure, equall to their bulke and materiall sub∣stance: also they haue distance of parts, and are extended at leastwise in order to themselues, and bounded by their owne termination, compasse, or surface, although nothing extrinse∣call to them, should containe them outwardly (as is instanced in the highest Heauens c 1.210.)

When Sophisters say, That Christs bodie hath quantitie, and not the manner (or nature of quantitie) they deliuer plaine Chimaera's, and Fictions: For as a thing cannot be a substance, and want the proper nature and manner of a substance, so like∣wise a bodie cannot haue quantitie, and want the proper man∣ner [ C] and condition of quantitie d 1.211.

And whereas to elude so manifest Veritie, Papists flye to the Omnipotencie of God e 1.212, saying, That although in na∣ture it be impossible for one and the same bodie to be in ma∣ny places at once; yet because God is omnipotent, hee is able to effect it. Wee answer, first, it implyeth a contradicti∣on, [ D] That God should destroy the nature of a thing, the na∣ture of the same thing remaining safe. Secondly, wee say with Tertullian f 1.213, The power of God (which we must stand of) is his Will, and that which he Will not, he cannot. And S. Augu∣stine g 1.214, Christ is said to be omnipotent, in doing what he Will. No∣thing is impossible to God, because it exceedeth his power (saith S. Ambrose h 1.215) but some things are repugnant to his Will, and some things to his veritie, Tit. 1. 2. And the impossibilitie of these things proceedeth not of Infirmitie in God, but of Might and

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Maiestie, because his Truth admitteth no Lye, nor his Power any [ A] Inconstancie.

Because therefore Christ hath a true and perfect Bodie, both in regard of substance and matter, and also in respect of quan∣titie a 1.216, stature, measure, posture, proportion, &c. and because euerie true humane bodie, by the Ordinance of the Creator, (who hath formed and constituted the seuerall kinds and na∣tures of things after a speciall manner) is determined to one indiuiduall place at one instant b 1.217, and must also haue distinction and diuision of parts, with a length, latitude, and thicknesse proportionall to the quantitie thereof: Therefore, except [ B] God himselfe had expressely reuealed, and testified by his Word, that the contrarie should be found in the humane bo∣die of Christ, and that the same should haue one manner of corporall being in Heauen, and another in the holy Eucha∣rist, at one and the same time; a Christian cannot be com∣pelled to beleeue this Doctrine, as an Article of his Creed, vpon the sole Voyce and Authoritie of the Laterane or Tri∣dent Councell.

Some learned Papists confesse ingeniously, That secluding the Authoritie of the Church, there is no written Word of God c 1.218 sufficient to enforce a Christian to receiue this Do∣ctrine: [ D] And moderne Pontificians are not able to confirme their present Tenet (to wit, That Christs humane bodie may be in many vbities or places at one time, and that the whole bodie of Christ is circumscriptiuely in Heauen, and accor∣ding to the manner of a Spirit d 1.219, and of the Diuine nature it selfe, without extension of parts, in euerie crumme of the

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Sacramentall formes.) This Doctrine (I say) Papals are not [ A] able to confirme, by the vnanimous Testimonie and Tradition of the antient Church. Therefore because the same is groun∣ded, neither vpon Scripture nor Tradition, they begge the question, when they alleadge Gods omnipotent power: for it must first of all, and that vpon infallible Principles appeare, That God will haue it thus; before his omnipotencie be plea∣ded a 1.220, that he is able to make it thus.

But the Iesuites Sophisme, whereby hee would intangle vs within the snares of fundamentall Errour, when wee denie Christs bodily presence in many places at once, proceedeth in this manner:

No bodie can be truely receiued in many places at once, vnlesse the same be corporally present in many places at once.

The Bodie of Christ is truely receiued in many places at [ C] once, to wit, in euery place where the holy Eucharist is admi∣nistred. Ergo:

The Bodie of Christ is present in many places at once.

I answere: The Maior Proposition is denyed; for there is a twofold manner of true Presence, and consequently of Re∣ceiuing: one Naturall, by the hand and mouth of the bodie: [ D] Another Mysticall and Spirituall, by the deliuerie of the holy Ghost, and by the apprehension and action of the soule.

First, The holy Ghost truely and verily reacheth and pre∣senteth the Obiect, which is Christs Bodie and Blood, cruci∣fied, and offered in Sacrifice for mans Redemption.

* 1.221 Secondly, The reasonable soule being eleuated by a liuely and operatiue Faith, apprehendeth and receiueth the former obiect, as really, verily, and truely, after a spirituall and su∣pernaturall manner, as the bodie receiueth any corporeall or sensible obiect, after a naturall manner, Iohn 1. 12. Ephes. 3. [ E] 17. Fulgentius b 1.222 saith, Filium Dei vnicum per fidem recipiunt: They receiue the onely Sonne of God by Faith. Our Sa∣uiour saith, That holy Beleeuers receiue the Flesh, and drinke the Blood of Christ, Iohn 6. 50, 53, 54. Credendo, by

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〈◊〉〈◊〉 a 1.223, v. 35.47. Paschasius b 1.224 hath these words, The [ A] flesh and blood of Christ, &c. are truely 〈◊〉〈◊〉 by Faith, and vn∣derstanding. It is not lawfull to eate Christ with teeth. This Sacra∣ment is truely his flesh and his blood, which man eateth and drin∣keth spiritually. 〈◊〉〈◊〉 saith, Hold readie the mouth of thy Faith, open the iawes of Hope, stretchout the bowels of Loue, and take the Bread of life, which is the nourishment of the inward man. Eusebius Emisenus c 1.225, When thou goest vp to the reuerend Al∣tar, to bee filled with spirituall meates by Faith, behold, honour, and wonder at the sacred Bodie and Blood of thy God, touch it with thy minde, take it with the hand of thy heart: and chiefly prouide, [ B] that the inward man swallow the whole. Saint Ambrose e 1.226, Come∣dat te cor meum panis Sancte, panis viue, panis munde, veni in cor meum, intra in animam meam: Let mine heart eate thee, oh holy Bread, oh liuing Bread, oh pure Bread, come into my heart, enter into my soule. Saint Augustine f 1.227, There is ano∣ther Bread which confirmeth the heart, because it is the Bread of the heart. And in another place g 1.228, Then is the Body and Blood of the Lord life to each man, when that which is visibly taken in the Sacra∣ment, is in very truth spiritually eaten, spiritually drunken. [ C]

Now from the former Testimonies, it is manifest, that the Bodie and Blood of Christ, may truely and really bee [ D] eaten and receiued, by operatiue Faith in the Sacrament.

And if it bee further obiected, That spirituall eating and drinking of the Bodie and Blood of Christ, may bee without the Sacrament:

I answere, That the same is more effectually and perfectly accomplished in the Sacrament, than out of the Sacrament: because the holy Ghost, directly, and in speciall, when the Sa∣crament is deliuered, exhibiteth the Body and Blood of Christ, as a pledge and testimonie of his particular loue towards euery worthie Receiuer; and the liuely representation and comme∣moration [ E] of Christs death and Sacrifice, by the mysticall signes and actions, is an instrument of the Diuine Spirit, to apply and communicate Christ crucified, and to increase and confirme the Faith, Charitie, and pietie of Receiuers.

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Lastly, It is remarkeable, that vntill the thousand yeeres, [ A] and more, after Christs Ascension a 1.229, Orthodoxall Christians beleeued, that the Bodie and Blood of Christ were truely and really present, and deliuered to worthie Receiuers, in, and by the holy Eucharist, according to St. Pauls Doctrine, 1. Cor. 10.16. And that the same must be spiritually receiued by Faith, or else they profited nothing b 1.230.

But the manner of Presence (which some Modernes now obtrude) by Consubstantiation, or by Transubstantiation, was not determined as an Article of Faith c 1.231.

And (to say nothing of Consubstantiation, the defence [ C] whereof, inuolueth them in many absurdities, which vnder∣take for it) it is apparant, that Transubstantiation is a bastard plant, and vpstart weed, neuer planted by the heauenly Fa∣ther, but the same sprang vp in the declining state of the Church, and it is perplexed and inuolued with so many ab∣surdities and contradictions to Veritie formerly receiued; that our Aduersarie was transported with partiall folly, when he presumed to ranke the refusall of this new d 1.232 and prodigious Article, among fundamentall Errours. [ D]

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EIghtly, Their denying the Sacrament of Penance, and Priestly Absolution, the necessarie meanes for remission [ E] of finnes committed after Baptisme.

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ANSVVER. [ A]

THe Obiector, by Penance, vnderstandeth not Repentance, as it is a vertue (for Protestants beleeue true repentance, to be a second Table after spirituall Ship-wrecke a 1.233, and a necessarie meanes of remission of sinnes committed after Baptisme b 1.234) but he speaketh of Auricular Confession, accor∣ding to the Tenet of the Trident Councell, and priestly Ab∣solution vpon the same, affirming (but without any proofe) that this kind of penance, is a Sacrament of the Gospell, and a ne∣cessarie [ B] meanes to obtaine remission of sinnes committed after Baptisme.

The Protestants, in their Doctrine, acknowledge that priuat confession of sinnes, made by penitent people to the Pastours of their soules, and particular absolution, or speciall applicati∣on [ C] of the promises of the Gospell, to such as be penitent, are profitable helps of vertue, godlinesse, and spirituall comfort.

The Augustane confession c 1.235 speaketh in this manner: We retaine confession, especially because of absolution, which is Gods word, applied to euerie priuate person; therefore it were an vngodly thing to remooue priuate absolution out of the Church: neither do they duly consider, what is remission of sinnes, or the force of the keyes of the kingdome of heauen, which contemne or repudiate priuate absolution. A reuerend Bishop d 1.236 [ E] of our time, deliuereth the Doctrine of our Church in this manner: The power of absolution in generall [ D] and particular, is professed in our Church, where both in the publicke seruice is proclaimed pardon and absolution vpon all penitents, and a priuate applying of absolution vnto particular penitents, by the office of the Minister. And concerning priuat confession, Bishop Iuell e 1.237 saith, Abuses and errors being remooued, and the Priest being lear∣ned, we mislike no manner of confession, whether it be publicke, or pri∣uate.

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His most excellent Maiestie, our gratious and religious [ A] king Iames, in his Meditation vpon the Lords Prayer, hath these words, For my part with Caluin (Institut. lib. 3. cap. 4. Sect. 12.) I commend Confession, euen priuately to a Church-man, and I wish with all my heart it were more in custome among vs than it is, as a thing of excellent vse, especially of preparing men to receiue the Sa∣crament.

The difference then betweene Papals and vs, in this questi∣on, is not about the thing it selfe, considered without abuses a 1.238, but concerning the manner, and also the obligation and neces∣sitie thereof. [ B]

First, they require of all persons, being of age, a priuate and distinct confession of all and euery knowne mortall sinne, open and secret, of outward deed, and inward consent b 1.239, together [ C] with the circumstances c 1.240 thereof, though obscene and odious to Christian eares, to be made at the least annually d 1.241 to some Roman Priest authorised e 1.242. And they affirme the same to be simply necessarie, either in act, or in desire f 1.243, by diuine pre∣cept g 1.244 for the obtaining remission of sinnes committed after Baptisme. And they teach, that this confession, and absolution vpon it, is one of the proper Sacraments h 1.245 of the New Testa∣ment, hauing an operatiue vertue, to conferre Grace, and to change Attrition i 1.246, or imperfect sorrow for sinnes past, into contrition. [ D]

Secondly, our Tenet is, that auricular confession is not ab∣solutely [ E] necessarie to remission of sinnes after Baptisme, nei∣ther is the same generally in respect of all persons k 1.247, comman∣ded

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or imposed by diuine law, and the rigorous vrging thereof [ A] according to the Popish Doctrine a 1.248, is not Orthodoxall or Ca∣tholicke Faith: neither is penance a Sacrament of the new Te∣stament, like vnto Baptisme, and the holy Eucharist.

The true ends of priuate confession are these which follow: First, to informe, instruct, and councell Christian people in their [ B] particular actions. Secondly, if they be delinquents to re∣prooue them, and make them vnderstand the danger of their sinne. Thirdly, to comfort those that are afflicted, and truely penitent, and to assure them of remission of sinnes by the word of absolution. Fourthly, to prepare people, to the worthie re∣ceiuing of the holy Communion. And if priuate confession be referred and vsed to these ends, it is a worke of godly dis∣cipline, consonant to the holy Scripture, and antiently practi∣sed by the Primitiue Church b 1.249. Bishops and Ministers of the Church are Sheepheards, Stewards, and Ouerseers of Gods [ C] people committed to their charge, 1. Pet. 5. 1, 2. Acts 20. 28. They haue receiued the keyes of the kingdome of Heauen, and power to loose and bind sinners, Math. 16. 19. Math. 18. 18. Iohn 20. 23. They haue power to direct and gouerne their whole flocke, and euerie sheepe and member of the same, in things concerning their Saluation. The people are subiect to them, in such offices and actions as concerne their spirituall state, Heb. 13. 17. 1. Thess. 5. 12. And if Christian people must confesse and acknowledge their faults one to another, Iames 5. 16. then also when there is cause, why should they not do the same to the Pastors of their soules c 1.250? [ D]

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But the precise and strict Law of Confession, imposed vpon [ A] all Christians as a necessarie meanes of remission of sinnes a 1.251, is neither commanded in the New Testament, nor hath warrant from the Primitiue Church.

First, It was not instituted, or practised, Matth. 3. 6 b 1.252: for that Confession was before Baptisme, and not at the Sacrament of Penance; and so great a multitude, as is mentioned in that [ B] Text, could not within so smal space of time make speciall enu∣meration of all their sinnes, and no priuat absolution was vsed.

Secondly, It cannot be prooued from Act. 19. 17. because this Confession was open, and not secret; the same was volun∣tarie, and not commanded; it was performed once onely, and [ C] not annually, or often euerie yeere, and no Absolution was gi∣uen after it. And Cardinall Caietan c 1.253 graunteth, that it was no Sacramentall Confession, but onely an open profession of their former wicked life.

Thirdly, It was not appointed, Iam. 5. 16. For our Aduer∣saries acknowledge, That it is not certaine that S. Iames spea∣keth [ D] of Sacramentall Confession d 1.254, Rhemists, Iam. 5. Annot. 10. And the persons to whom S. Iames commands Confession to be made, are not onely Priests (〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉, Confesse, or ac∣knowledge your faults one to another) but also any other person, whom one hath wronged and offended, or from whom he may receiue counsaile, or comfort.

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Ioh. 20. 23. because no mention is made in that Text of auri∣cular [ A] Confession. And the power granted to Ministers of the Gospell, to apply remission of sinnes, by Preaching, Sacra∣ments, and Absolution, may be exercised, and also be effectuall in contrite people, vpon the inward confession of sinnes to God himselfe, and their liuely faith in Christ Iesus, and vpon their Baptisme, Act, 3.19. & 26.18. Matth. 11.28. without priuate disclosing and manifesting their secret offences to man.

If the Aduersaries shall obiect, None can forgiue sinnes by a iudiciall Act, vntill they know them, and haue them reuealed. But Priests, by commission from Christ, forgiue sinnes by a iudiciall Act; [ B] and therefore sinnes must by confession, bee reuealed and made knowne vnto them. I answere, That hee which properly and directly pardoneth sinnes by a iudiciall Act, ought to know them; and thud God himselfe forgiuing sinnes, knoweth them, Psal. 69.6. But they which forgiue sinnes declaratiuely a 1.255, and by publish∣ing Gods iudiciall Act, like as a Cryer pronounceth the sen∣tence of a Iudge, and by applying the Word and Sacraments to penitent persons (vpon the holy and worthie receiuing whereof, the holy Ghost himselfe conferreth the grace of Re∣mission) may performe that which belongeth to their office, [ C] without distinct knowledge of all the particular sinnes, where∣of the penitent person hath repented himselfe in the sight of God b 1.256: as appeareth in Baptisme, and generall Confession, ioy∣ned with Contrition. And when a Priest applyeth the word of Absolution, hee knoweth not whether the person confes∣sing his sinnes, performeth the same truely, and with contrition of heart, or not.

Iohn Medina c 1.257, Cardinall Caietan d 1.258, and Iansenius e 1.259, acknow∣ledge

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the weakenesse of this Argument, to prooue Auricular [ A] Confession. And Vasques saith, That a man can hardly find, a∣mong those which maintaine Auricular Confession, out of the place of Ioh. 20. 23. which doe effectually conclude the same from thence a 1.260. Ioh. Medina treating of Auricular Confession, saith b 1.261, The Romane Catholike Doctors haue laboured till they sweat againe, to find proofe for this veritie: He might well haue said, They la∣boured to as good purpose, as the man who sought to finde Nodum in Scirpo, or, A Needle in a Bottle of Hay. Mich. Pa∣lacius c 1.262 saith, Diuines are perplexed in finding places of Scrip∣ture, or other conuincing arguments, to prooue Auricular Confession [ B] to be of Diuine Institution; and it is worthie admiration, what con∣tention is about this matter, and how badly Authors agree concer∣ning the same.

Our Aduersaries labour tooth and nayle, to prooue from the former Text in S. Iohn, That Priests exercise a Iudiciall [ C] Power, when they absolue sinners. But if this were graunted, they gaine nothing, for this Iudiciall power is exercised, ac∣cording to the word of Christ: And if that word absolue contrite and penitent persons, vpon internall Confession to God himselfe d 1.263, and vpon their generall Confession before men, without secret Confession; then it followeth not, That because a Priest exerciseth a Iudiciall power, when hee absol∣ueth, Ergo, Penitents must confesse all their knowne sinnes. A penitent person may haue mortall sinnes, which he remem∣breth not, Psal. 19.13. and when vpon profession of his repen∣tance [ D] he is absolued, those sinnes are pardoned e 1.264, Psal. 103.3. and the Priest, in giuing Absolution, exerciseth a Iudiciall Act (according to the Popish Tenet) and yet those finnes are not disclosed, or manifested vnto him.

Secondly, The present Romish Doctrine, concerning the [ E] absolute necessitie of Auricular Confession, is not Catho∣lique. The Greeke Church, both of antient and later times,

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reiected the same, as appeared by Nectarius a 1.265, S. Chrysostome b 1.266, [ A] and by the testimonie of learned Papists, which affirme the same, concerning that Church. The Glosse vpon Gratian, saith c 1.267, Auricular Confession is not necessarie among the Grecians. Greg. Val. Lib. 2. d. Miss. cap. 4. saith, That Panormitan and Gerson maintained, that secret Confession was not necessarie. An∣dreas Vega d 1.268, Very many learned Catholikes haue doubted of this necessitie of Confession, by Diuine Law. Maldenat. e 1.269 sum. q. 18. ar. 4. There be also among Catholikes, which thinke there is no Diuine Precept touching Auricular Confession, to wit, all the Interpreters of the Decrees, and also Scotus. B. Rhenanus f 1.270 and Petrus Oxomen∣sis [ B] g 1.271 denyed the said Confession to be of Diuine Institution. And Gratian h 1.272 himselfe hauing disputed the Question pro & con, concludeth in this manner, I leaue it to the Readers choyse, which opinion to follow, because each opinion (to wit, the one holding Confession to be of Diuine Institution, and the other Ecclesiasticall) hath fautors, both wise and religious.

Now if Auricular Confession is not certainely and infalli∣bly of Diuine Institution, then it is impossible for the same, [ D] conioyned with Absolution, to be a Sacrament; because Sa∣craments of the New Testament were immediately instituted by Christ, and haue their institution, matter, forme, visible signes, and promises, expressely and manifestly deliuered and appointed in the Scripture of the New Testament. From hence I argue:

If that which Romists tearme Sacramentall Penance, haue no word of Institution, no visible and corporeall Element i 1.273, no expresse forme, or word of Consecration, neither any Sacra∣mentall [ E]

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effect appropriated vnto it by Christ and his Apostles; [ A] then the same is no Sacrament of the New Testament.

But all and euerie of these Conditions are wanting in Popish Penance: Ergo,

The same is no Sacrament of the New Testament.

If Penitencie be not affirmed by the Fathers of the Primi∣tiue Church to be a Sacrament properly taken; then, that the same is such in our dayes, is not Catholique Doctrine. But [ B] learned Pontificians haue narrowly searched euerie Sentence of Antiquitie concerning Penitencie, and cannot yet produce one place, where the same is plainely and expressely affir∣med to be one of the Sacraments of the New Testament, properly taken, to wit, such as is Baptisme, and the holy Eu∣charist.

Therefore the present Doctrine of Romists, concerning Penitencie, That the same is a Sacrament, is neither groun∣ded vpon the Scripture, nor the perpetuall Tradition of the Church: And our Romish Aduersarie is the eight time [ C] * 1.274 guided by a lying Spirit, when he accuseth vs of fundamen∣tall Error, because wee denie Popish Penance to be a Sa∣crament.

IESVIT.

NInthly, Their denying the Catholique Church, ex∣pressely [ D] set downe in the Creed, which of all the other Articles, is with greatest danger denyed: For the standing out against this, makes men Heretikes; and without er∣ring against this, no man is guiltie of Heresie: whatso∣euer Doctor Field to the contrarie saith, That an errant against a fundamentall point, is an Heretike, though hee erre without pertinacie, whereof he brings not any sylla∣ble [ E] of proofe. And yet his Doctrine is against the whole consent of Diuines, and expressely against S. Augustine, * 1.275 who saith, That a man holding with Photinus, whose

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errors were most fundamentall, against the Trinitie [ A] and the Godhead of Christ, thinking hee holds Catho∣lique Doctrine, is not yet an Heretike, till warned that hee holds against the Catholique Church, hee chuseth to perseuere in his error.

ANSWER.

WEe beleeue stedfastly the Article of the Apostles Creed, concerning the Catholique Church; and de∣nie [ B] onely the false sense, which Romists impose a 1.276, and the absurd inferences which they draw from this Article.

And whereas the Iesuit affirmeth, That this Article is with greatest danger denyed, because the standing out against it, makes men Heretikes, &c. Both the Proposition it selfe, thus [ C] rawly and confusedly deliuered, and the Confirmation, are false.

The Article of the Catholique Church, is not the most fundamentall and prime Article of the Creed; for many other Articles are, about a more principall and excellent Obiect, to wit, immediately concerning God the Creator, and Christ Iesus the Sauiour and Redeemer, and God the Holy Ghost, &c. whereas the Obiect of the Article in question, is concer∣ning the Creature.

The prime foundation of Christianitie, is Christ himselfe, [ D] 1. Cor. 3. 11. 1. Pet. 2.6. The Church is the seruant, and Spouse of Christ, the House of God, whereof Christ him∣selfe is the grand Lord, and Builder. But wee haue learned in the Gospell, That the seruant is not greater than his Lord, Ioh. 13. 16. Hereupon S. Augustine, Enchyrid. cap. 56. Good order requireth, that the Church be placed after the Trinitie, as an House after the Inhabiter, his Temple after God, and the Citie after the Founder b 1.277.

And if the Aduersarie replie, That although it be a lesse Article, in regard of the Obiect; yet the denyall thereof is

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of greater consequence, because it maketh men guiltie of He∣resie, [ A] &c.

I answere, Granting that the denyall of the whole Arti∣cle, being rightly expounded, maketh men Heretickes: but I denie, that a Christian which beleeueth this Article is no Hereticke a 1.278, if hee beleeue and maintaine any Errour, a∣gainst the plaine Doctrine of the holy Scripture, which hee knoweth, or which hee is bound, Necessitate 〈◊〉〈◊〉, or 〈◊〉〈◊〉, to know, beleeue, and maintaine. Saint Hierom, vpon the Gala∣thians, saith b 1.279, Whosocuer (to wit, in waightie points) vnder∣standeth the Scriptures, otherwise than the sence of the holy Ghost [ B] whereby they were written, requireth, may bee called an Hereticke, al∣though hee depart not out of the Church. Tertullian saith c 1.280, What∣soeuer (in points Diuine and Sacred) is repugnant to Veritie, is Heresie. Albertus saith d 1.281, Hee is an Hereticke, which followeth his owne opinion, and not the iudgement of the Scripture. Occham e 1.282, Hee is an Hereticke, which with a pertinacious minde imbraceth any Errour, the contradictorie doctrine whereof, is contained in holy Scripture.

Two things, constitute an Hereticke: First, Errour and false Doctrine, as the materiall. Secondly, Malicious and pertina∣cious adhearing to the same, or defending the same, as the for∣mall. A man may haue both these, without any explicite de∣nying the Article of the Catholicke Church. For the Trueth which hee gainesayeth, may be plainely deliuered in the holy [ D] Scripture, and hee may reade the same, and haue sufficient meanes to know it in the Scripture, and maliciously or inordi∣nately resist the holy Ghost, speaking by the Scriptures: Act. 7.51.

* 1.283 Our Sauiour condemneth some for Heretickes; calling them false Prophets, Murtherers, and Theeues, Mat. 7.15. Ioh. 10.5. Not because they opposed the present Church; for some of these were principall Rulers of the Iewish Church, Mat. 23.1. but because they taught and beleeued contrarie to the Scrip∣tures, Mat. 22.29.

Saint Augustine a 1.284 d. Bapt. c. Don. li. 4. c. 16. speaketh not [ E]

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altogether as the Iesuit 〈◊〉〈◊〉 him: but saith onely, That hee [ A] would not affirme of such a person, who being baptised in the 〈◊〉〈◊〉 Church, beleeued as Photinus the hereticke did, supposing the same to be Catholicke Faith, that he was an he∣reticke: he absolutely affirmeth not, that such a person was no Hereticke, but that hee would not pronounce him an Here∣ticke, before hee was conuicted. And hee speaketh of Here∣tickes, not as they were in foro coeli, according to the iudge∣ment of God; but in foro Ecclesiae, according to Ecclesiasti∣call Censure. Neither doth hee speake of persons, sufficient∣ly conuicted by plaine euidence of holy Scripture, and mali∣ciously [ B] and inordinately resisting the Truth; but of simple Er∣rants, misled and seduced, through ignorance or infirmitie. Doctor Field, (whose learned Treatise of the Church, is * 1.285 nibbled at by Papists, but yet remaines vnanswered by them) is censured by this Obiectour, for saying, without any Proofe, that an Errant against a fundamentall point, is an Hereticke, though he erre without pertinacie.

But the Iesuit reporteth amisse, when hee saith Doctor Field deliuered this Assertion without Proofe; for in the Mar∣gine of his Booke he confirmeth the same, by the testimonies [ C] of Gerson a 1.286 and Occham b 1.287, two famous Doctors of the Roman Church. And it is remarkeable, that the Iesuit censuring the Doctour, himselfe produceth no Argument out of diuine Au∣thoritie, to confirme his owne Position, but resteth onely vpon the single testimonie of one Father, which (as I haue alreadie shewed) speaketh not to his purpose.

IESVIT. [ E]

Hence Jinferre, that Protestants erre fundamentally, according to the second kind of erring, to wit, in the man∣ner, in all points they hold against the Romane Church,

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which I haue prooued to be the true Catholicke Church. For [ A] he that holds any priuate opinion so stiffely, as rather than forsake them, he denyes and abandons the Catholike Church, a mayne Article of his Creed, erreth fundamentally, as is cleare. But Protestants hold their priuate opinions so stif∣ly, as thereupon they haue denied and abandoned the Catho∣licke Church, to wit, the Romane.

ANSWER. [ B]

The mayne Proposition of this Section, to wit, Protestants 〈◊〉〈◊〉 fundamentally, according to the second kinde of erring, &c. is denied: and the Assumption of the Syllogisme, whereby the Obiectour laboureth to prooue the same, is palpably vntrue. For Protestants maintaine no priuate opinion, either stiffely or remissely, whereby they haue denied and abandoned the true Catholicke Church.

First, They maintaine no doctrine as matter of Faith, but that which is deliuered in holy Scripture, and which consen∣teth [ C] with the Primitiue Church, either expresly or virtually. But such doctrine is not priuate opinion, because the holy Ghost, which is the supreame gouernour and directour of the Church, and the Prophets and Apostles which were inspired from heauen, are the Authours thereof.

Secondly, The Romane Church is not the Catholicke Church, but an vnsound part of the generall visible Church, as it is prooued by the Learned of our part a 1.288, whereunto the Ad∣uersaries haue, as yet, made no replie.

IESVIT.

Neither doth it import that they retaine the word, ha∣uing reiected the sence, seeing not the letter of the Creed pronounced, but the matter beleeued makes men Christians. Neither is it enough to say, that they beleeue the Church of the Elect, seeing the Church of the Creed, is not the Church of the onely Elect (a meere fancie) but the visible and [ E] conspicuous Church, continuing from the Apostles by suc∣sion of Bishops, which thus I prooue.

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ANSWER. [ A]

* 1.289 We retaine both the words, and the sence of the Article, and the Catholicke Church in the Apostles Creed, in respect of the militant part thereof, is a Church of right beleeuers, and especially of iust and holie persons, and principally and in∣tentionally, and as it comprehendeth both the militant and tri∣umphant, the congregation of all the elect; for this Church is the mysticall and liuing bodie which Christ saueth, Ephes. 5. 23. It is the Church of the first borne, which are written in [ B] Heauen, Heb. 12.23. It is the Church builded vpon the Rocke, against which the gates of Hell shall not preuaile a 1.290, either by Haeresie, Temptation, or mortall Sinne b 1.291, Math. 16. 18. & Math. 7.24. And if it be a meere fancie to hold this, then Gregorie the Great c 1.292, with many other of the antiēt Fathers were fantasticks for teaching in this manner. But the Church of the Creed is not alwaies the Church Hierarchicall: for the Church in the Apostles Creed is that societie of Beleeuers, against which Hell gates preuaile not finally, either by Heresie or mortall sinne. But Hell gates preuaile against Popes and Popish Prelats by mortall sinne, so farre, as that they descend into the infer∣nall [ C] lake. Therefore the Roman Hierarchicall Church consi∣sting principally of Popes and Popish Prelats, is not the holy Catholicke Church in the Creed, for that Church hath re∣mission of sinnes, and life eternall, and passeth not into Hell, Ioh. 10.28. August. d. Doctr. Christ. li. 3. ca. 32.

IESVIT.

The Church whereof Christ said, Math. 28.20. I am alwaies with you to the consummation of the world, is the [ E] Church of the Creed, or the Church, which to forsake is damnable. For the Church wherewith Christ still abi∣deth, not according to corporall and visible presence, but by

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his Spirit, is the body of Christ, whereof he is head, into [ A] which he infuseth the life of Grace: and consequently, he that forsaketh this Church, forsakes the body of Christ, the head thereof, and cannot liue by his Spirit, but is in a dead and damnable estate, as a member cut off, and seperated * 1.293 from a liuing bodie, as S. Augustine long ago noted. The Catholicke Church is the bodie of Christ, whereof he is head, out of this bodie the holy Ghost quickeneth no man. Now the Church whereof Christ said, I am alwaies with [ B] you to the consummation of the world, is not the Church in∣uisible of onely the Elect, but a visible Church deriued by succession from the Apostles: therefore hee that forsakes this Church deriued by succession from the Apostles, for∣sakes the Church of the Creed, the Catholicke Church, the bodie of Christ, and puts himselfe into a dead and dam∣nable state, and may haue all things besides Saluation and eternall Life, as Fathers affirme, whose testimonies in this * 1.294 behalfe are notable, and famously knowne, whereunto D. [ C] Field yeeldeth, acknowledging One, Holy, Catholicke Church, in which only the light of heauenly Truth is to be sought, where only Grace, Mercie, remission of Sinnes, and hope of eternall Happinesse are found.

ANSWER.

The Church whereof Christ said, Math. 28.20. I am alwaies with you to the consummation of the world, is the Church of the [ D] holy Apostles, & of Pastors and Beleeuers succeeding them in the same Faith and Religion: and this is a principall part (for the Catholicke Church in generall containes all Faithfull and iust persons, from Abel a 1.295, &c.) of the Church in the Creed. Secondly, some part of the Catholicke Church of the Creed, is alwaies visible in the world, sometimes in an ampler, some∣times in a smaller number of Professours. Also the visibilitie thereof, is at sometimes illustrious and notorious, and at other times it is obscure, according to the state of Persecution b 1.296. Thirdly, to forsake the true Church in the maine and pri∣marie [ E] Articles of Faith, or by any wilfull infidelitie, is dam∣nable: and all people which desire Saluation, must actually (if it be possible) or Voto, in case of necessitie, conioine themselues to some part of the Orthodoxall Catholicke Church c 1.297.

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But our Sauiour promised to no one visible Sea or Church, [ A] continuing after the Apostles by succession of Bishops, abso∣lute immunitie from all Errour, and infallibilitie of Veritie; but only presentiall assistance, and protection of. Grace, suffici∣cient for the saluation of his people, vpon condition, to wit, when the said Pastours taught and obserued that which he commanded, and continued in the right vse of those meanes which he had deposed among them, Ioh. 8.31, 32. Rom. 11. 22. Read before in this Treatise, pag. 94.99.

The Testimonies of S. Augustine a 1.298 obiected by the Ad∣uersarie, which are, That the Catholick Church, is the body of [ B] Christ, whereof he is head: and that out of this bodie, the holy Ghost quickeneth no man, make altogether against him∣selfe; for none are vitall members of Christs mysticall body, but iust and holy persons. And it is the same Fathers doctrine b 1.299, Impij non sunt reuera Corpus Christi, wicked persons are not in deed and veritie Christs bodie. And in another place, In corpo∣re Christi non sunt quod est Ecclesia, quoniam non potest Christus ha∣bere membra damnata c 1.300, They are not in Christs bodie, which is the Church, because Christ cannot haue damnable members. [ C] And Bernard d 1.301 saith, Manifestum est, non esse Caput Hypochritae Christum, It is euident, that Christ is not the head of an Hypo∣chrite. But the visible Rulers of the Popish Church haue many times bin (as our Aduersaries themselues report) not only Hy∣pochrites, but apparantly monstrous and damnable sinners e 1.302, therefore they are not the Catholicke Church, out of which no Saluation can be had f 1.303, neither is perpetuall influence and assistance of Grace absolutely intailed vpon them.

Out of the former premises, I argue thus:

Wolues, Hipochrites, and impious persons are not the holy Ca∣tholicke Church of the Creed, out of which there is no Saluation.

Romish Prelats haue beene Wolues, Hypocrites, and impious men, for they haue maintained false and superstitious Doctrine, repugnant to the holy Scripture, and aduerse to the Faith of the Primitiue Church (which Protestants haue, and are againe [ E] readie to demonstrate) and they haue beene most notorious, for all kind of abhominable vices (as Romists themselues haue pub∣lished to the World) and they haue also most iniustly and tyrani∣cally * 1.304 persecuted and oppressed true beleeuers, Ergo,

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Romish Prelats are not the holy Catholicke Church of the [ A] Creed, out of which there is no Saluation.

Argument 2. Out of the holy Catholicke Church of the Creed there is no Saluation. * 1.305

Out of the fellowship of the Roman Church there hath beene, and is Saluation. Ergo

The present Roman Church is not the holy Catholicke Church of the Creed.

And thus the Obiector hath gained nothing by accusing our Church of fundamentall error, and his nine Accusations [ B] are prooued to be so many calumniations: and we neither erre fundamentally in any maine Article, nor yet pertinaciously or maliciously against any other Christian veritie. For although whiles we liue in the world, tenebras huius mortalitatis circumfe∣rimus, * 1.306 (as S. Augustine speaketh) we carrie about vs (in regard of our selues) the darkenes of mortalitie, tamen ad Scripturae lucer∣nam ambulamus, yet we studie carefully to walke according to the true light of holy Scripture, and God hath hitherto so as∣sisted vs, that the euill eye of our Aduersaries, is not able to dis∣couer in our Doctrine any capitall Error: neuerthelesse, if vp∣on [ C] further inquisition, they shall make it appeare by diuine te∣stimonie, or other sufficient proofe, that we are deceiued in any matter of Faith, small or great, we will be as 〈◊〉〈◊〉 to reforme our selues, as they are readie to accuse vs. And in all differences betweene them and vs, we submit our selues to a free, lawfull, generall Councell, to be tried by the rule of Gods word; con∣cerning which S. Augustine saith a 1.307, Extat authoritas diuinarum Scripturarum, vndè mens nostra deuiare non debet, nec relicto solida∣mento diuini eloquij, per suspitionum suarum abrupta praecipitari, There is extant, the sacred authoritie of diuine Scripture, from [ D] whence wee may not deuiate, nor forsaking the infallible ground of Gods word, be carried into the precipicies of mens fancies. 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉, (saith great Athanasius, b 1.308) The sacred Scriptures, giuen by diuine inspiration, are all-sufficient of themselues, to the de∣monstration of (sacred) verity. But a theefe (saith Chrisostome c 1.309) entreth not into the sheepfould by the testimonie of the Scrip∣tures, which are called a doore, & that most iustly, because they leade vs to God, and manifest diuine knowledge to vs, they make vs Christs sheep, and preserue vs, so as wolues cannot rush [ E] in vpon vs. But he that vseth not the holy Scripture, but climeth in some other way, that is a way not permitted, the same is a theefe. Now Protestants follow the Scriptures, and Romists enterby humane Traditions.

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