A replie to Iesuit Fishers answere to certain questions propou[n]ded by his most gratious Matie: King Iames By Francis White D: of Div· deane of Carlile, chaplaine to his Matie. Hereunto is annexed, a conference of the right: R:B: of St Dauids wth the same Iesuit*

ANSWER.

The visible Church in regard of the sound and liuing part thereof, is one both in Faith and Charitie b 1.1, Ephes. 4.3.4. &c. But this vnitie is more or lesse perfect c 1.2 at some times, and in [ C] some persons than in other.

Vnitie in all Veritie, and in all sanctitie of Vertue and Cha∣ritie is necessarie to Saluation, in praeparatione animi, in the pur∣pose and intention of heart, Rom. 12. 18. and actuall Vnitie in fundamentall points of Faith, and in the maine offices of Cha∣ritie [ D] is simply necessarie to Saluation, Heb. 12.14. but perfect cōcord, excluding all discord, is not perpetually found amongst the best members of the visible Church d 1.3. There was conten∣tion among the Disciples, Luc. 22.24. and the Affrican and Eu∣ropean Churches were diuided concerning rebaptising e 1.4, and the Eastrne and Westerne Churches about the day of Easter f 1.5. S. Augustine saith, That good men being but proficients, may be at strife g 1.6. Aquinas affirmeth, That discord is not a sinne vnlesse it ouer∣throw Charity, or be corrupted with error concerning matters of Faith which are necessarie to bee knowne to Saluation, or in smaller points

with 〈◊〉〈◊〉 a 1.7. Also discord may happen in the visible [ A] 〈◊〉〈◊〉 by the pride, ambition, and faction of the 〈1 line〉〈1 line〉 in which case, 〈◊〉〈◊〉 persons, although they 〈◊〉〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉〈◊〉 all lawfull peace and 〈◊〉〈◊〉, yet through the 〈◊〉〈◊〉 of those which are enemies to peace b 1.8, they cannot 〈◊〉〈◊〉 it. 〈◊〉〈◊〉. 120.5, 6, 7.

Notes

• b 1.1

  Aug. c. Petil. Don. li. 2. c. 77. Te∣nemus charitatem si amplectimur vni∣tatem amplectimur autèm vnitatē, si ea non per verba nostra non in parte confingim', sed per verba Christi in vnitate cognoscimus. Id. Membra Christi per vnitatis charitatem sibi copulantur, & per eandem capiti suo cohaerent quod est Christus Iesus, &c. Theoder. Expos. Psal. 47. Communitèr omnes in vnam domum rediguntur ob consonantium veterum Dogmatum.
• c 1.2

  Anton. Perez. Pentateuch. Fid. Vol. 1. Dub. 19. c. 3. Vnitas formalis & substantialis & vnitas perfectiua.
• d 1.3

  Aug. c. Iul. li. 1. ca. 2. Alia sunt in quibus inter se 〈◊〉〈◊〉 etiam do∣ctissimi atquè opti∣mi regulae Catho∣licae defensoris, sal∣ua fidei compage, non consentiunt & alius alio de vna re melius & verius di∣cit. Hoc autèm vn∣dè [ E] nunc agimus ad ipsa fidei 〈◊〉〈◊〉 fundamenta. Idem sup. Psal. 45. Anton. Perez. Pentateuch. Fid. p. 1. dub. 8. ca. 3. Cyprian. tr. d. laps. Inter alia peccata reperta in hominibus ad Ecclesiam 〈◊〉〈◊〉 recenset animo∣rum discordias & controuerfias.
• e 1.4

  Concil. Carthag. apud Cypt. & Ib. Pamel. Id. ep. 72. & 73. & 74. & 75. Eu∣seb. Hist. Eccles. li. 7. c. 2.3, 4.
• f 1.5

  Idem li. 5. c. 23.
• g 1.6

  Aug. Proficientes autèm nondumquè perfecti, &c. d. 〈◊〉〈◊〉 Dei, li. 15. ca. 5.
• a 1.7

  Aquin. 22. q. 37. ar. 1. Cum intentio aliquorum fit ad a∣liquod bonū, quod 〈◊〉〈◊〉 ad honorē 〈1 line〉〈1 line〉 accidens contra bonum 〈◊〉〈◊〉 vel 〈1 line〉〈1 line〉.
• b 1.8

  〈◊〉〈◊〉 Hist. 〈◊〉〈◊〉 Lib. 6. cap. 4. & 〈◊〉〈◊〉 Constantini, Lib. 2. cap. 60. & 61. Greg. Nazianz. 〈◊〉〈◊〉. 12. 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉, &c. Aug. sup. 〈◊〉〈◊〉. 45. Nondum 〈1 line〉〈1 line〉 [ B] nondum completum est. 〈◊〉〈◊〉. sup. Ezech. c. 4. Vereor ne ista 〈◊◊◊〉〈◊◊◊〉 in nostra 〈◊◊〉〈◊◊〉, in qua visio pacis cernitur, quam conteret Dominus quando irascitur, & indignos nos 〈1 line〉〈1 line〉 &c. deficiente autem pane & 〈◊〉〈◊〉 Ecclesiae 〈◊〉〈◊〉 vir contra 〈◊◊〉〈◊◊〉, & 〈◊〉〈◊〉 discordia est, 〈◊◊〉〈◊◊〉 nobis Christi tunicam, quam nec milites in passione saluatoris nisi sunt, &c.