A replie to Iesuit Fishers answere to certain questions propou[n]ded by his most gratious Matie: King Iames By Francis White D: of Div· deane of Carlile, chaplaine to his Matie. Hereunto is annexed, a conference of the right: R:B: of St Dauids wth the same Iesuit*

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A replie to Iesuit Fishers answere to certain questions propou[n]ded by his most gratious Matie: King Iames By Francis White D: of Div· deane of Carlile, chaplaine to his Matie. Hereunto is annexed, a conference of the right: R:B: of St Dauids wth the same Iesuit*
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White, Francis, 1564?-1638.
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London :: Printed by Adam Islip,
1624.
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Fisher, John, 1569-1641 -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
Church of England -- Apologetic works -- Early works to 1800.
Catholic Church -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
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"A replie to Iesuit Fishers answere to certain questions propou[n]ded by his most gratious Matie: King Iames By Francis White D: of Div· deane of Carlile, chaplaine to his Matie. Hereunto is annexed, a conference of the right: R:B: of St Dauids wth the same Iesuit*." In the digital collection Early English Books Online. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A15082.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed May 23, 2024.

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And as this is certaine and granted on our part, so it is no lesse certaine that the Primitiue Church did neuer practise the vse of the Cup, as pertaining to the essentiall integritie of the Sacrament, or as commaunded by diuine precept, but thought the recoiuing vnder one and both [ E] kinds, a thing indifferent. This may be prooued by the con∣sideration of the time since Christs 〈◊〉〈◊〉, from our dayes vpward, whence I gather fiue Arguments.

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First, is the confession of our Aduersaries, amongst [ A] whom a Bohemian Protestant doth professe, That hauing the feare of God before his eyes, be dares not censure the Roman Church of Heresie in this point. Hospinian writes that some Protestants confessed that whole christ was re∣ally present, exhibited, and receiued vnder euery kind, and therefore vnder the onely forme of Bread: and that they did not iudge those to do euill that communicated vnder one kind. Melancthon, As to eate, or not to eate Swines flesh, is placed in our power, and athing indifferent, so (saith [ B] he) J iudge of the Eucharist, that they finne not, who know∣ing and beleeuing this libertie, doe vse either part of the figne. And Luther, They finne not against Christ, who vse one kind, seeing Christ doth not commaund to vse it, but hath left it to the will of euerie one. And Hospinian alledg∣eth Luther, affirming, Jt is not needfull to giue both kinds, but the one alone sufficeth: the Church hath power of or∣daining onely one, and the people ought to be content there∣with, [ C] if it be ordained by the Church.

But these testimonies though they may serue to stop the mouth of a clamorous Aduersarie, yet are they not suffici∣ent to satisfie any iuditious man, in regard their Authors were men most vncertaine and various in their Doctrines about Religion, now auerring as Orthodox and diuine Truth, what soone after they fell to abhor as hereticall and impious. [ D]

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