A replie to Iesuit Fishers answere to certain questions propou[n]ded by his most gratious Matie: King Iames By Francis White D: of Div· deane of Carlile, chaplaine to his Matie. Hereunto is annexed, a conference of the right: R:B: of St Dauids wth the same Iesuit*

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A replie to Iesuit Fishers answere to certain questions propou[n]ded by his most gratious Matie: King Iames By Francis White D: of Div· deane of Carlile, chaplaine to his Matie. Hereunto is annexed, a conference of the right: R:B: of St Dauids wth the same Iesuit*
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White, Francis, 1564?-1638.
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London :: Printed by Adam Islip,
1624.
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Fisher, John, 1569-1641 -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
Church of England -- Apologetic works -- Early works to 1800.
Catholic Church -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
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"A replie to Iesuit Fishers answere to certain questions propou[n]ded by his most gratious Matie: King Iames By Francis White D: of Div· deane of Carlile, chaplaine to his Matie. Hereunto is annexed, a conference of the right: R:B: of St Dauids wth the same Iesuit*." In the digital collection Early English Books Online. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A15082.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed May 23, 2024.

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ANSWER.

The first reason vpon which you presume, that our Sauiours words, Doe this in remembrance of me, are not Preceptiue, in re∣gard [ E] of Communion in both kinds, is an emptie shadow, with∣out substance of matter. Our Sauiour in your Tenet, saith not, Doe this as often as you Lay men communicate, but whensoe∣uer you receiue the cup and drinke, then doe it in remembrance

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of me. But if this be the whole sence, then Christs words must [ A] be resolued against sence in this manner.

As often as you Lay people drinke, which needeth neuer to be done by you, (according to Romish Diuinitie) Doe this nothing, in remembrance of me. Secondly, Quotiescunque bi∣beritis, as often as you drinke, maketh not the Precept conditio∣nall, in respect of the cup, more than of the bread: for in the very next verse it followeth, Quotiescunque ederitis panem hunc, as often as you shall eate this bread: and therefore, if as often as you shall drinke, restraineth the speech in regard of the cup, then as often as you shall eate, restraineth the Precept in regard [ B] of the bread. And Haimo saith, Idem sensus est, &c. There is the same sence of, Doe this, being referred to the cup, as of Doe this, being referred to the bread. But Doe this, referred to the bread, is a Precept: Ergo, Doe this, referred to the cup, is also a Pre∣cept. But the Romanist, infatuated with this conceit, croweth as followeth, That the Aduersaries of the Church might not haue the least plausible shew, &c. The Vermine is deceiued, in calling vs, Aduersaries of the Church; for wee are fast friends to the true Catholicke Church, and we are Aduersaries to Romists, an vnsound Church, no otherwise than Saint Paul was to the [ C] Galathians, when he said, Am I therefore become your enemie, be∣cause I tell you the truth, Gallat. 4. 16. And touching the fancie of this Obiectour, I adde, That euen as when Saint Paul said, 1. Cor. 10. 31. Whether yee eate or drinke, or whatsoeuer thing else ye doc, doe all to the glorie of God: If these words should be resolued in this manner, As often as ye eate and drinke, doe this to the glorie of God; the placing of this word, As often, restraineth not the speech from being a Precept: so likewise, when Saint Paul saith, As often as ye shall drinke, doe this in remembrance of me; this manner of speaking, altereth not his words from being a [ D] commandement.

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