A replie to Iesuit Fishers answere to certain questions propou[n]ded by his most gratious Matie: King Iames By Francis White D: of Div· deane of Carlile, chaplaine to his Matie. Hereunto is annexed, a conference of the right: R:B: of St Dauids wth the same Iesuit*

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A replie to Iesuit Fishers answere to certain questions propou[n]ded by his most gratious Matie: King Iames By Francis White D: of Div· deane of Carlile, chaplaine to his Matie. Hereunto is annexed, a conference of the right: R:B: of St Dauids wth the same Iesuit*
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White, Francis, 1564?-1638.
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1624.
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Fisher, John, 1569-1641 -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
Church of England -- Apologetic works -- Early works to 1800.
Catholic Church -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
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"A replie to Iesuit Fishers answere to certain questions propou[n]ded by his most gratious Matie: King Iames By Francis White D: of Div· deane of Carlile, chaplaine to his Matie. Hereunto is annexed, a conference of the right: R:B: of St Dauids wth the same Iesuit*." In the digital collection Early English Books Online. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A15082.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed May 23, 2024.

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ANSWER.

WHen Christ instituted the Sacrament, he prouided and prescribed two materiall Elements, and not one one∣ly, or none; and he sanctified and distributed both,

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and with his Institution and Practise, he conioyned a Precept; [ A] Doe this in remembrance of me: Drinke ye all of this. Saint Paul likewise saith, Let a man prooue himselfe, and so let him eate of this Bread, and drinke of this Cup: and the practise of the holy Apo∣stles in their dayes, and of the successours of the Apostles; and Saint Pauls owne practise appeareth, 1. Cor. 10.16. & cap. 11.26. and he describeth Communicating, by taking the Cup, as a most noble part, saying, Yee cannot drinke the cup of the Lord and the cup of deuils, 1. Cor. 10.21. Iustin Martir, who borders vpon the Apostles, saith, That Christians in his age, distributed the sanctified Bread and Wine, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉, to euery one present: and [ B] he addeth further, that the Apostles taught, That Iesus comman∣ded them to doe thus. Saint Chrysostome saith a, That whereas in the old Law there was a difference betweene Priests and Laicks in commu∣nicating of Victimes; in the New Testament it is otherwise, for one Bodie and one Cup is ministred to all. This practise continued as a Law, more than a thousand yeeres after Christ. And Hai∣mo b (who liued in the yeere 850.) saith, That in his dayes, all the people receiued out of the Cup, the Blood of Christ. And Paschasius c after him, saith, That the Flesh, or Bread, is not law∣fully receiued, without the Cup or Blood. [ C]

But whatsoeuer our Sauiour himselfe, and his Apostles, and their successours, and the antient Church, by perpetuall succes∣sion, taught and practised a thousand yeeres and vpward, yea, euen the Latine Church it selfe, and the Easterne Churches c to this day; the Romish generation exalting it selfe aboue God, not onely presumeth to commit Sacriledge at home, but it cen∣sureth [ D] the followers of Christs Testament of damnable He∣resie d.

Now, that they may with some colour aduance their owne Tradition against the Ordinance of Christ, they prie into euery corner, and inuent friuolous Glosses and Pretexts, as [ E] wee shall further perceiue, by that which followeth in our Ad∣uersaries Discourse.

Notes

  • Iustin. Apol. 2. pa. 76. & 77.

  • 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉.

  • a

    Chrys. sup. 1. Cor. 11. & sup. 2. Cor. Hom. 18.

  • b

    Haimo. sup. 1. Cor. 10. pa. 109.

  • c

    Paschas. Rat∣bert. d. corp. & sang. Dom. ca. 19. Nec caro sine sanguine vtique, nec sanguis sine carne iure communicatur, &c. Non recte caro sine sanguine communicatur, &c. Ibid. cap. 15. Quapropter 〈◊〉〈◊〉 homo quotiescunque bibis hunc calicem, &c.

  • c

    Ochagauia. d. Sacram. tr. 2. d. Euch. q. 18. Graeci suis Laicis distri∣buunt vtranque speciem panis & vini.

  • d

    Gerson. d. com. sub vtraque. pag. 526. Sumptio talis est temeraria, presumptuosa, scandalosa, seditiosa, & Ecclesiastici ri∣tus turbatiua, & ex consequenti aeternae damnationis inductiua, pag. 529. Aduersus haeresin nouam de necessaria communicatione Laicorum, sub vtraque specie, pag. 528. Rex Rom. acciperet potestatem, à sacro Concilio (Constantiensi) factum illud 〈◊〉〈◊〉, sicut alias haereses in Bohemia, cum po∣tentia brachij secularis.

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