A replie to Iesuit Fishers answere to certain questions propou[n]ded by his most gratious Matie: King Iames By Francis White D: of Div· deane of Carlile, chaplaine to his Matie. Hereunto is annexed, a conference of the right: R:B: of St Dauids wth the same Iesuit*

ANSWER.

Significations may be found in Types and figures, being no Sacraments; as in a Vine and Branches, a naturall Humane Bo∣die, a materiall House, or Temple, a Lambe led before the shea∣rer, [ E] and the like: but yet, because they are otherwise in the Sacrament, both in regard of a more perfect and liuely repre∣sentation, and also because a speciall Promise of Diuine assi∣stance and grace is annexed to the Sacramentall signes, vsed and receiued, according to Christs Institution, which belon∣geth

not to other signes and figures, therefore it is inconse∣quent, [ A] to say one Element receiued alone, signifies as much in substance, as both: Ergo, the vse of one Element, is as profita∣ble and effectuall, as the vse and reception of both.

But if the obiection be reduced to forme, the defect will be more apparent.

If there is the same signification, of one single Element, which there is of both, then there is the same benefit obtained by receiuing one, which is obtained by receiuing both.

But there is the same signification of one single Element, which [ B] there is of both, to wit, spirituall Food, vnion of the Faithfull, and Christs passion: Ergo,

There is the same benefit obtayned, by receiuing in one kind, as in both.

I answer: First, denying the consequence of the Maior Pro∣position. For although there were the same signification in one Element, which is of both, yet there is not equall benefit rea∣ped by receiuing one, as is reaped by receiuing both; because the promise of Grace is annexed to the receiuing both, and [ C] not to the receiuing of one without the other: for when a pro∣mise is made vpon condition of a duty to be performed, the promise is not fulfilled, but vpon obseruing the condition. Now Christ hauing instituted the Sacrament as a seale of his Couenant, and appointed the same to be receiued in both kinds (as his Institution shewes) a 1.1 the Church cannot expect that Christ should fulfill his promise, in giuing his flesh and blood by the Sacrament, vnlesse the Church obserue his ordinance, and doe that which he appointed. Also, obedience is better [ D] than Sacrifice, 1. Sam. 15. 22. but when we administer and receiue in both kinds, we obey Christ, saying, Drinke ye all of this; and we disobey, when we doe otherwise. Therefore al∣though there were the same signification of one Element, which is of both, yet the same benefit is not reaped by recei∣uing one, which is obtained by receiuing both.

Secondly, to the assumption I answer, that there is a more perfect and liuely representation b 1.2 of spirituall feeding and refection, and of coniunction of the faithfull, and of Christs [ E] death and Sacrifice vpon the crosse, by both the signes, than by one: and pouring out of the wine c 1.3, doth in a cleerer manner represent and signifie the effusion of Christs bloud, and also the separation of his body and soule; and there is a more perfect

* 1.4 similitude of nourishment in Bread and Wine a 1.5 together, than [ A] in Bread alone, Eccles. 4. 9. so likewise two Elements repre∣sent more than one, and nourish more than one, and vnite more than one. Otherwise, if the representation of one Element, were equall to the representation of both, to what purpose should our Sauiour institute a Sacrament in two kinds, which (according to Papists, who will seeme wiser than God) b 1.6 is as sufficient in one kind, as in both?

Notes

• a 1.1

  Ferus. in Ioh. 6. In institutione huius Sacramenti Christus impera∣tiue loquitur, acci∣pite commedite, hoc facite.
• b 1.2

  Alex. Hal. 4. q. 10. m. 3. ar. 2. Etsi Christus ho∣mo naturali qua∣dam similitudine representatur v∣traque specie: non tame ex institutio∣ne, signatur vtra∣que: sed secundum carnem specie pa∣nis, secundum sanguinem specie vini.
• c 1.3

  Greg. Dial. li. 4. ca. 58. Eius sanguis in ora fidelium funditur.
• * 1.4

  c Cyprian. ep. 63. in Calice Dominico & plebi ministrando, non hoc faciunt, quod Iesus Christus Dominus & Deus noster huiua Sacri∣ficij Atuhor & Doctor, fecit & docuit.
• a 1.5

  Cyprian. li. 2. ep. 3. siue epist. 63. Calix Domini∣cus sic bibentes in∣ebriat, vt sobrios faciat, vt mentes ad spiritalem sa∣pientiam redigat, vt a sapore isto sae∣culari, ad intelle∣ctum Dei vnus∣quisque resipiscat. Chrys. in Ioh. Hom 45. Hic sanguis facit, vt imago in nobis regia 〈◊〉〈◊〉: Hic sanguis pulchritudinem atque nobilitatem animae quam semper irregat & notrit, languescere non sinit, &c. Hic mysticus sanguis Daemo∣nes procul pellit, Angelos & Angelorum Dominum ad nos allicit Daemones enim cum Dominicum sangui∣nem [ B] in nobis vident, in fugam vertuntur, Angeli autem procurrunt Iren. li. 5. ca. 1. Ruits. Contr. Theol. 32. pa. 152. Species panis sola non significat gratiam vt reficientem animam, 〈◊〉〈◊〉, sed partialiter. Alex. Hel. 4. q. 10. m. 4. ar. 1. §. 1 Reade 〈◊〉〈◊〉,
• b 1.6

  Arboreus Sap Ioh. 6. Caro Christi 〈◊〉〈◊〉 animam, sed sanguis viuisicat animam, & emundat conscientiam nostram ab operibus mortuis.