A replie to Iesuit Fishers answere to certain questions propou[n]ded by his most gratious Matie: King Iames By Francis White D: of Div· deane of Carlile, chaplaine to his Matie. Hereunto is annexed, a conference of the right: R:B: of St Dauids wth the same Iesuit*

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Title: A replie to Iesuit Fishers answere to certain questions propou[n]ded by his most gratious Matie: King Iames By Francis White D: of Div· deane of Carlile, chaplaine to his Matie. Hereunto is annexed, a conference of the right: R:B: of St Dauids wth the same Iesuit*
Author: White, Francis, 1564?-1638.
Publication: London :: Printed by Adam Islip,; 1624.
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Subject terms: Fisher, John, 1569-1641 -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.; Church of England -- Apologetic works -- Early works to 1800.; Catholic Church -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
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ANSWER.

IF inuocation of Saints hath not beene practised vniuersally in Gods Church, euer since the Apostles times, then the same is not Catholicke a 1.1, or originally diuine b 1.2: therefore you trifle, [ C] and beg the question c 1.3, when you declame, saying, Our Aduer∣saries finding our inuocation of Saints for substance practised in Gods Church euer since the Primatiue times. First, you dare not say euer since the Apostles times, but you equiuocate in the tearme of Primatiue. Secondly, you leaue out Vniuersally, for you cannot demonstrate, that the same was practised in all Chur∣ches, or maintained generally by the Fathers. Thirdly, you seeke an euasion by a distinction of Substance, & Circumstance, and acquaint vs not, what shall be of the one, and what of the other: publicke and priuate, freely, and of necessitie, may be [ D] circumstances, yet they are such circumstances, as varie the state of the question: and Protestants dispute against your present doctrine, and manner of inuocation, which hath neither ground in the Apostles doctrine, nor in the Tradition of the antient Church.

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a 1.1

Vinc. Lir. c. Haer. c. 4. Quicquid non vnus aut duo tantùm, sed omnes 〈◊〉〈◊〉 vno 〈◊〉〈◊〉 consensu, aper∣tè, frequenter, per∣seuerantèr, tenuis∣se, scripsisse, docuis∣se cognouerit.

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b 1.2

Tertul. d. prae∣script. c. 21. Quod ecclesia ab Aposto∣lis Apostoli à Chri∣sto, Christus à Deo suscepit.

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c 1.3

Arist. Topic. lib. 8. ca. 13. 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉.

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