The general session conteining an apologie of the most comfortable doctrine concerning the ende of this world, and seconde comming of Christ, written by Thomas Rogers. The first part, wherein for the comfort of the godlie is proued not onely that God wil, but also that he doth iudge this world.
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The general session conteining an apologie of the most comfortable doctrine concerning the ende of this world, and seconde comming of Christ, written by Thomas Rogers. The first part, wherein for the comfort of the godlie is proued not onely that God wil, but also that he doth iudge this world.
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Rogers, Thomas, d. 1616.
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Judgment Day -- Early works to 1800.
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CHAP. 12. (Book 12)
Whether al the wicked are punished in this
worlde; and whie theie are suffered
in the opinion of man
to florish. (Book 12)
IF God then so fauour iustice, some wil
saie, he should iudge and punish al the
wicked in this world.
He should in deede,* 1.1 and he doth. For
there is not à wicked man vpō the earth,
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whome God in his iustice one waie or o∣other;
either by his Magistrates, or by
himselfe; either by his secrete, or by his
open iudgements; either by an accusing
conscience, or by casting him of into à re∣probate
minde; either by sickenes, or by
pouertie; by aduersitie, or by prosperitie,
doth not punish. But it maie be obiected,
to haue à guiltie conscience, is an heauie
crosse; and to be vtterlie forsaken of the
Lorde, and possessed of Satan, is of al the
sorest plague, which can fal-vpon man in
this world; aduersitie also is à grieuous
punishment, but that prosperitie can be à
crosse, that is a Paradoxe in the opinion
of the world. I grant it is so. For so theie
haue alwaies thought. Therefore the Ro∣mans
with Cicero; the enimies of Iob, &
the aduersaries of Paul in their owne eies
were; & the Turks as theie thinke them∣selues
are happie. And why? The Romans
had al the world as it were in subiection,
Iob his enimies liued at their heartes ease,
Paul his aduersaries were not touched
with aduersitie, as theie thought, ye Turks
doe florish. Wheras contrariwise ye Iewes
with Cicero, Iob euen of his friendes,
Paul of the barbarous people, Christians
of the Turkes, are iudged accurssed.
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But whie? The nation of the Iewes are van∣quished,
are carried from their natiue coun∣trie;
are deteined in captiuitie, said Ciceroa 1.2.
Iob was in miserie; And who euer perished
being an innocent? or when were the godlie
destroied? saide the fained friends of Iobb 1.3.
Paul had a viper vpon his hande; There∣fore
he is à murtherer, and though hee haue
escaped the sea, yet vengance wil not suffer
him to liue, saide barbarous peoplec 1.4. Chri∣stians
are but fewe for number, and for
power nothing so mightie as they haue
bene; theie endure much affliction and
trobles in respect of others; therefore they
are not the sonnes of God, saith Mahometd 1.5.
These are the rash, and sinister opini∣ons
of the world. When god sendeth pro∣speritie
hee loueth; but when aduersitie
doth come, hee hateth. But the god∣lie
are of an other minde. For albeit when
such as feare God enioie prosperitie, they
thinke it an argument of his fauor: yet
when the wicked haue the same, in their
iudgemēt, it is a token of his displeasure.
Therefore Augustine in à certaine place
doth saie, The men of this world are vnhap∣pilie
happie, that is, in their wealth theie are
poore; in their health, sicke; and in their
felicity, they are accurssed. For when the
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Lord seemeth not to be angrie at al with
the wicked, he is most displeased. So Ber∣narde 1.6,
when God is not angrie, as mē thinke,
he is most angrie. And this may appeare to
be true both in the Romans, in respect of
the Iewes; in Iob his friends, as they were
called, in respect of Iob; in the barbarous
people in respect of Paul; and in the
Turkes at this day in respect of Christi∣ans.
For who were out of God his fauour
more than the Romans; than Iobs friends;
than Paul his aduersaries: and who more
miserable in deede than the Turkes, not∣withstanding
their prosperitie? And such
is the state of the wicked at al times.
Then whie doth the Lorde suffer the
wicked in the sight of men to florish?* 1.7 and
whie doth hee not in iustice confounde
them speedilie, and vtterlie?
Sundrie reasons may be giuen hereof.
For either of his wisedome he thinketh
it no due time as yet to punish them;
or of his mercie he spareth them, because
they shoulde repent; or in his iustice hee
hath quite forsaken them. In his wise∣dome
he spared Sodome, vntil the sinnes
therof were exceeding ripe, and cried-up
to heauē for vengeancef 1.8: in his mercie he
spared ye old world an hundred & twenty
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yeeres, that theie might amende g: in his
iustice oftentimes he spareth the wicked
in this present world, because he hath gi∣uen
them ouer into reprobate minds, and
reserued thē for euer-during torments in
the life to come. So doe good Physicions
suffer such to haue their wils with-out
gaine-saying them, who are past recoue∣rie.
But, as they who are so desperatelie
sicke in bodie, are nigh vnto death: so
they whom God for saketh, and leaueth
to their owne hists, are nigh vnto damna∣tion.
And as calues the fatter they be, the
nigher they are to be killed; and as trees
the bigger there are, & the more vnfruit∣ful,
the nighter to bee hewen-downe: so
the prosperitie of the vngodlie, is an vn∣doubted
argument of their destruction at
hande. Which punishment of their shal
thē by so much be the more grieuous &
intolerable, by howe much the time was
great before the Lord executed his iudg∣ment.
Phatao is a notable example here∣of.
For hee was long spared, but at the
length ouerwhelmed in the red seah 1.9.
So is Balthasar,* 1.10 who in the middes of* 1.11
his iolitie came to destructioni 1.12. But
they which are best knowen, and most
of al to be noted, are Sodom and the old
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world, the one whereof was vtterlie con∣sumed
with firek 1.13, the other drowned
with waterl 1.14: both special examples of
the sudden, and vtter damnation of the
vngodlie.