An answere vnto a wicked & infamous libel made by Christopher Vitel, one of the chiefe English elders of the pretended Family of Loue maintaining their doctrine, & carpingly answeringe to certaine pointes of a boke called the displaing of the Fam. Aunswered by I. Rogers.

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An answere vnto a wicked & infamous libel made by Christopher Vitel, one of the chiefe English elders of the pretended Family of Loue maintaining their doctrine, & carpingly answeringe to certaine pointes of a boke called the displaing of the Fam. Aunswered by I. Rogers.
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Rogers, John, fl. 1560-1580.
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At London :: Printed by Iohn Daye dwelling ouer Aldersgate,
Anno. 1579.
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Vitell, Christopher, fl. 1555-1579 -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
Familists -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
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"An answere vnto a wicked & infamous libel made by Christopher Vitel, one of the chiefe English elders of the pretended Family of Loue maintaining their doctrine, & carpingly answeringe to certaine pointes of a boke called the displaing of the Fam. Aunswered by I. Rogers." In the digital collection Early English Books Online. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A10909.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed May 23, 2024.

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Answere.

[ 26] HIs bookes I affirmed, that they were in crdite amongest the fa∣milye, of equall auhoritye with the scriptures: and that they were writ∣ten with the same spirite: to this you aūswere, that they are of such auctho∣ritye, as he hath affirmed: therefor

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note well what you say: for neuer any since the Apostles tunes had so impu∣dent a face, as openly to publish such a detestable lye: if this come not from the spirite of pride, I know no proud bosting spirites: all the Fathers in the primitiue Church, euer reuerenced the holy scripture, and submitted all their bookes thereunto.

Austen desired not to be credited, or beleued, but as his workes might a∣gree with the holy scriptures: all men in generall haue euer acknowledged themselues in their writinges: to be subiect to error, onely the scripture, to be without blemish: but this man will haue HN. and his bookes of equall au∣cthoritye with the scriptures, & writ∣ten with the same spirite: thus doe you runne, from one impietye to an o∣ther, and in the highest degree of blas∣phemye. But I pray you looke vpon the matter better: before you say he is a prophet, now his bookes are of equal aucthoritye with the scripture: whe∣ther will you lift vp your HN. aboue

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all condition of fraile man: the higher he is exalted, the more greuous will be his fall, without repentaunce: it is Luciferian pride, thus to attribute vnto mortall man: but you make HN, to be a name of office, and not of a cre∣ature: such misteryes requireth fal∣ced: where trueth, and simplicitye im∣braceth playne dealing.

Now you say, that HN. doth a∣uouch all to be false, whatsoeuer is taught by any other: therefore heare his owne wordes, and then discerne, and sée: God his trueth, and his godly and heauenly workes, are vnknowen vnto all fleshe, and vnto all fleshly, and earthly men: but it is geuen to the children of the kingdome, the commi∣naltye of the Loue, to vnderstand the secret misteryes thereof. You say it will be found true what he writeth: If none but the comminaltye, or Fa∣milye of Loue doe vnderstād the scrip∣ture: then it was not rightly vnder∣stode, before there was any mention of your Familye.

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Now for commendatiō of the Pope Cardinals, and Masse, he sayth, hee commendeth none, bu in his right order: this speach is ambigus, in his right order. For simply I thinke, none of them haue any shaddow of right or∣der, neither is their callinges, nor doctrine grounded vpon, either right, or good order. Your Author belyke, al∣loweth the Masse, or els he would not haue taken such paynes, as to expli∣cat euery ceremonye therein: in his booke called A declaratiō of the Masse but thus with subtiltye of speach, you would faine say, somewhat to defend your Author, be his sayinges neuer so monstrous.

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