A treatise tending vnto a declaration whether a man be in the estate of damnation or in the estate of grace and if he be in the first, how he may in time come out of it: if in the second, how he maie discerne it, and perseuere in the same to the end. The points that are handled are set downe in the page following.

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A treatise tending vnto a declaration whether a man be in the estate of damnation or in the estate of grace and if he be in the first, how he may in time come out of it: if in the second, how he maie discerne it, and perseuere in the same to the end. The points that are handled are set downe in the page following.
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Perkins, William, 1558-1602.
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❧ A Dialogue containing the conflictes betweene Sathan and the Christian.

Sathan.

OVile helhound, thou art my slaue, and my vassall, why then shakest thou off my yoke.

Christian.

By nature I was thy vas∣al, but Christ hath redeemed me.

Sathan.

Christ redeemeth no Repro∣bates, such as thou art.

Christian.

I am no Reprobate.

Sathan.

Thou art a Reprobate, for thou halt be condemned.

Christian.

Lucifer, to pronounce dam∣ation, belongeth to God alone: thou art no Iudge, it is sufficient for thee to bee an accuser.

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Sathan.

Though I cannot condemne thee, yet I know God will condemne thee.

Christian.

Yea, but God will not con∣demne me.

Sathan.

Goe too, let vs trie the matter. Is not God a Lorde, and a King ouer thee and maie he not therefore giue thee a lawe to keepe, and punish thee with hell fire, if thou breake it?

Christian.

Yes.

Sathan.

And hast thou kept the lawe o this thy Lord and King?

Christian.

No.

Sathan.

Let vs proceede further? Is not the same Lord also a most righteous iudge, & therfore a most sharpe reuenger of sinne?

Christian.

Yes truelie.

Sathan.

Why then wilt thou flatter thy selfe thou hypocrite: God cannot winke a thy sins, except he should be vniust. Wher∣fore there is no remedie, thou art sure to b damned: hell was prouided for thee, & now it gapeth to deuoure thee.

Christian.

There is remedie inough to de∣liuer me from condemnation. For God i not onelie (as thou affirmest) a Lord and Iudge, but also a sauing, and a most merci∣full Father.

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Sathan.

But thou fire brande of hell fire, and childe of perdition, looke for no mer∣cie at Gods hands, because thou art a most grieuous sinner: for,

  • 1. Originall sinne runneth whollie ouer thee, as a lothsome botch or leprosie.
  • 2. Thy minde knoweth not the thinges that be of God:
  • 3. In the lawe of God thou art starke blinde, sauing that thou hast a fewe princi∣ples of it to make thee inexcusable.
  • 4. The Gospel is foolishnes and madnes vnto thee: thou makest no better accompt of it then of thine owne dreame.
  • 5. Thy conscience is corrupt, because▪ it flattereth thee, and excuseth thy sinne.
  • 6. Thy memorie keepeth and remem∣breth nothing, but that which is against Gods word; but thinges abhominable and wicked, it keepeth long.
  • 7. Thy will hath no inclination to that which is good, but onelie to sinne and wic∣kednesse.
  • 8. Thy affections are set onelie on wic∣kednes: they are as mighty Giants and Prin∣ces in thee, they haue thee at commande∣ment. Remember, that for verie anger thou ast beene sicke: that the lust of thy flesh

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  • hath driuen thee to madnes: forget not thy Atheisme, thy contempt of Gods worde, thy inward pride, thy enuie, hatred, malice, thy couetousnes, and infinite other wicked desires, which haue led thee captiue, and made thee outragious in all kind of naugh∣tines.
  • 10. Thy actuall sinnes committed part∣lie in secrete, partlie in publike, are most fil∣thie and most infinite. Remember howe in such a place, at such a time, thou didst com∣mit fornication: in another place thou did∣dest steale, &c. God saw this I warrant thee yea, all thy sinnes are written in his booke wherefore thou cursed wretch, all hope of mercie is cut off from thee.

Christian.

But Gods mercie farre excee∣deth all these my sinnes: and I cannot bee so* 1.1 infinite in sinning, as God is infinite in mer∣cie and pardoning.

Sathan.

Darest thou presume to thinke of Gods mercie? why, the least of thy sinnes deserueth damnation.

Christian.

None of my sinnes can feare* 1.2 me, or dismaie me. Christ hath borne the full wrath and vengeance of his Father vp∣on the Crosse, euen for me, that I might be▪ deliuered from condemnation, which was

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due vnto mee.

Sathan.

If Gods purpose were not to condemne thee, perswade thy selfe, hee would neuer laie so manie afflictions and crosses on thee, as he doth. What is this want of good name? this weaknes and sick∣nesse of the bodie? these terrours of thy minde? this dulnesse and frowardnes of thy hart? what are all these (I saie) and manie other euils, but the beginnings, and cer∣taine flashings of the fire of Hell.

Christian.

Nay, rather my afflictions are liuelie testimonies of my saluation. For god as a louing Father, partlie by them, as with* 1.3 courges chastneth my disobedience, and bringeth me into order: partly conformeth me vnto my Sauiour Christ, and so by little and little, layeth open to mee mine owne* 1.4 sinnes, that I may dislike my selfe and hate them: and maketh mee to renounce the orde, thy eldest sonne, and stirreth me vp to call vpon him, & to praie earnestly with grones and sighes, which I am not able to expresse with anie wordes, as I feele them.

Sathan.

Thy afflictions are heauie, and omfortlesse, therefore they can not be ar∣guments of Gods fauour.

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Christian.

Indeed their nature is to bring griefe and heauines to the soule, but I haue had ioy in the middest of my afflictions, &* 1.5 strength sufficient to beare them, and after them haue ben many waies bettered, which befalleth to none of the wicked: and for that* 1.6 cause, it is a great perswasion to mee, that shal not be damned with the wicked world, but in spite of all thy power, passe frō death to euerlasting life.

Sathan.

After these thy manifold afflicti∣ons, thou must suffer death, which is mo•••• terrible, and a verie entrance to Hell.

Christian.

Death hath lost his sting b Christes death: and vnto me it shall be no∣thing els but a passage vnto euerlasting life▪

Sathan.

Admit thou shalt bee deliuere from hell by Christ, what will this auail thee, cōsidering that thou shalt neuer com to the kingdome of heauen? for Christe death only deliuereth thee from death eter∣nal, it can not aduance thee to euerlastin life.

Christian.

I am nowe at this time a mem∣ber of Christs kingdome, and after this lif shall raigne with him for euer in his euerla∣sting kingdome.* 1.7

Sathan

Thou neuer didst fulfill the law

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therefore thou canst not come into the kingdome of heauen.

Christian

Christ hath perfectlie fulfilled euerie part of the lawe for mee: and by this his obedience imputed vnto mee, I my selfe do keepe the lawe.

Sathan

Be it so, for all this, thou art farre inough from the kingdome of heauen, into which no vncleane thing shall euer enter: thou, although that Christ hath suffered death, and fulfilled the lawe for thee, yet thou art in part vncleane: thy cursed nature and the seedes of sinne are yet remaining in thee.* 1.8

Christian.

Christ in the virgins wombe was perfectly sanctified by the holie ghost: and this perfect holines of his humane na∣ture is imputed to me: euen as Iacob put on Esaus garments, to get his Fathers blessing: so I haue put on the righteousnes of Christ, as a long white robe couering my sinnes, & making me appeare perfectlie righteous, e∣uen before Gods iudgement seat.

Sathan

Indeed, God hath made promise* 1.9 vnto mankinde in all these mercies and be∣nefits in Christ: but the condition of this promise is faith, which thou wantest, and therfore canst not make anie accompt, that

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Christes sufferings, Christes fulfilling of the lawe, Christes perfect holinesse, can doe thee anie good.

Christian.

I haue true sauing faith.

The conflicts of Sathan with the strong Christian.

Sathan.

THou sayest that thou hast true faith, but I shall sift thee, and disproue thee.

Christian.

The gates of Hell shall neuer preuayle against my faith, doe what thou canst.

Sathan.

Tell me then, doest thou thinke that all the world shall be saued?

Christian.

No.

Sathan.

What, shall some be saued, and some condemned?

Christiam.

So saith the worde of God.

Sathan.

Thou then are peswaded that God is true euen in his mercifull promises, and that he will saue some men, as Peter and Paul, & Dauid, &c. and this is the onely be leefe, by which thou wilt be saued.

Christian.

Naie, this I beleeue, and more too, that I particularly am in the number of those men which shall be saued: and this is

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the beleefe that saueth me.

Sathan.

It may bee thou art perswaded, that God is able to saue thee, but that God will saue thee, that is, that he hath determi∣ned to aduance this thy body, and this thy soule into his kingdome, & that he is most willing to performe it in his good time: heerein thou wauerest and doubtest.

Christian.

Nay Sathan, I in mine owne heart am fully perswaded, that I shall be sa∣ued,* 1.10 and that Christ is specially my redee∣mer: and (O Lord) for Christes sake, helpe thou my doubting and vnbeliefe.

Sathan.

This thy full perswasion is onely a phantasie, and a strong imagination of thine owne head: it goeth not with thee as thou thinkest.

Sathan.

It is no imagination, but trueth which I speake. For me thinks, I am as cer∣taine of my saluation, as though my name* 1.11 were registred in the Scriptures (as Dauids and Pauls are) to be an elect vessell of God: and this is the testimonie of the holy spirit of Iesus Christ, assuring me inwardly of my adoption, and making me with boldnesse and confidence in Christ, to pray vnto God the father.

Sathan.

Still thou dreamest & imaginest,

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thou louest and likest thy self, and therefore thou thinkest the best of thy selfe.

Christian.

Yea, but God of his goodnesse* 1.12 hath brought foorth such tokens of faith in me, that I cannot be deceiued.

  • 1. I am displeased with my selfe for my manifold sinnes, in which sometime I haue delighted and bathed my self. Rom. 7. 15. 24.
  • 2. I purpose neuer to commit them a∣gaine, if God giue me strength, as I trust he will.
  • 3. I haue a verie great desire to be doing those things which God commandeth.
  • 4. Those that bee the children of God. If I doe but heare of them, I loue them with my hart, and wish vnto them as to my selfe. 1. Iohn. 3. 14.
  • 5. My heart leapeth for gladnesse, when I heare of the preaching of the word.
  • 6. I long to see the comming of Christ Iesus, that an end may be made of sinning, and of displeasing God. Apoc. 22. 20.
  • 7. I feele in my heart the fruites of the spirit, ioy, loue, peace, gentlenes, meekenes, patience, temperance: the workes of the flesh I abhorre them, fornication, adulterie, vncleannesse, wantonnesse, Idolatrie, strife, enuie, anger, drunkennesse, bibbing and

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  • quaffing, and all such like. Galathians. 5. 19. 20. 22.

All these, they cannot proceede from thee Sathan, or from my fleshe, but onelie from faith which is wrought in me by gods holie spirite.

Sathan.

If this were so, God would neuer suffer thee to sinne, as thou doest.

Christian.

I shall sinne as long as I liue in this worlde, I am sure of it; because I am* 1.13 taught to aske remission of my sinnes conti∣nually. But the manner of my sinning now is otherwaies than it hath beene in times past. I haue sinned heretofore with ful pur∣pose and consent of will; but now doubtles, I doo not. Before I commit anie sinne, I do not go to the practising of it with delibera∣tion, as the carnall man doth, who taketh care to fulfill the lustes of the flesh: but if I doo it, it is flat beside my minde and pur∣pose:* 1.14 In the doing of anie sinne, I woulde not doe it, my heart is against it, and I hate it, and yet, by the tyrannie of my flesh being ouercome, I doe it: afterwardc, when it is committed, I am grieued and displeased at my selfe, and doe earnestlie with teares aske at Gods hands forgiuenesse of the same sinne.

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Sathan.

Indeede, this is verye true in the children of God: but thou art solde vnder sinne, and with great pleasure doest com∣mit sinne, & louest it with thy whole heart: otherwise, thou wouldest not fall to sinne againe after repentance, and commit euen one and the same sinne, so often as thou doest. Thou hypocrite, this thy behauiour turneth all the fauour of God from thee.

Christian.

Nay, it is the order of the Pro∣phets,* 1.15 to call men to repentance, which haue fallen from the feare of God, and from the repentance, which they professed: and God in thus calling him, putteth them in hope of obtaining mercie. And the law had sacrifices offered euery day, for the sinnes of all the people, and for particular men, both for their ignorances, and their volun∣tarie sinnes: which signifieth, that God is readie to forgiue the sinnes of his children: yea if they sinne daily. Abraham twise lied and swore that Sara was not his wife. Ioseph* 1.16 swore twise by the life of Pharao. Dauid cōmitted adulterie often, because he tooke vnto him Bathsheba, Vriahs wife, & also kept sixe wiues, and ten concubines. Gods will is, that mē forgiue till seuentie seuen times: and therefore he will shew much more mer∣cie.

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And for my part, so oft as I shall fall in∣to the same sin, so oft I shall haue Christ my aduocate and intercessour to the father for me, who will not damne me for the infirmi∣tie which he findeth in me. I will abstaine from externall iniquitie, and I wil not make my members seruants vnto sinne: and so* 1.17 long I trust my imperfections shall haue no power to damne mee: for Christes perfec∣tion is reputed to be mine, by faith which I haue in his bloud: God is not displeased, if my bodie be sicke and subiect to diseases: no more is he displeased at the disease and sicknesse of the soule. A naturall father will* 1.18 ot slay the bodie of his childe, when he is sicke, and abhorreth comfortable meates: and my heauenly father will not condemne my soule, although through the infirmitie of faith, and the weakenesse of the spirit: I commit sinne, and often loath his heauen∣y word, the food of my soule. Nay, (which s a strange thing) I know it by experience, hat God hath turned my filthie sinnes to my great profit, and to the amendment of my life: like as the good Phisition, of ranke oison is able to make a soueraigne medi∣cine to preserue life.

Sathan.

Well, be it, that now thou art in

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the state of grace, yet thou shalt not conti∣nue so: but shalt before death depart from Christ.

Christian.

I know I am a mēber of Christs misticall bodie: I feele in my selfe the hea∣uenlie power, and vertue of my head Christ Iesus: and for this cause I cannot perish, but shall continue for euer, and raigne in Heauen after this life with him.

The conflicts of Sathan with the weake Christian.

Sathan.

THy minde is full of ignorance and blind∣nes, thy heart is full of obstinacie, rebel∣lion, and frowardnes against God: thou art whollie vnfit for anie good work: wherfore, thou hast no faith, neither canst thou be iu∣stified, and accepted before God.

Christian.

If I haue but one drop of the grace of God, and if my faith bee no more than a litle graine of mustard seede, it is suf∣ficient* 1.19 for mee: God requireth not perfect faith, but true faith.

Sathan.

Yea, but thou hast no faith at all

Christian.

I haue had faith.

Sathan.

Thou neuer hadst true faith: fo

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in time past, when according to thine own opinion thou didst beleeue, then thou hadst nothing but a shadow of faith, and a foolish imagination, which all hypocrites haue.

Christian.

I wil put my trust in god for euer,* 1.20 & his former mercies shewed mee hereto∣fore strengthē me now in this my weaknes.

  • 1. He created me when I was nothing.
  • 2. He created me a man, when he might haue made me an vglie Toade.
  • 3. He made me of comelie bodie, and of good discretiō: wheras he might haue made me vglie, & deformed, franticke, & mad.
  • 4. I was borne in the daies of knowledg, when I might haue beene borne in the time of ignorance and superstition.
  • 5. I was borne of Christian parents, but God might haue giuen me either Turks or Iewes, or some other sauage people for my parents.
  • 6. I might haue perished in my mothers wombe, but he hath preserued me, and pro∣uided for me by his prouidence, euen vnto this houre.
  • 7. Soone after my birth, God might haue cast me into hell, but contrariwise, I was baptized, and so receiued the seale of his blessed couenant.
  • ...

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  • 8 I haue had by Gods goodnesse some sorrowe for my sinnes past, and haue called on him, in hope and confidence that he would heare me.
  • 9 God might haue concealed his wor from mee, but I haue heard the plentifu preaching of it: I vnderstand it, and hau receiued comfort by it.
  • 10 Lastly, at this time God might pow•••• his full wrath on me: which he dooth no but mercifully maketh me to feele mi•…•… owne wants, that I might be humbled, a•…•… giue all glorie vnto him for his blessing Wherefore, there is no cause why I shou•••• bee disquieted: but I will trust still in t•••• Lord, and depend on him, as I haue done▪

Sathan.

Thou feelest no grace of the h•…•… lie Ghoste in thee, nor anie true tokens 〈…〉〈…〉 faith, but thou hast a liuely sense of the r∣bellion of thy heart, and of thy lewde a•••• wretched conuersation: therefore th canst not put anie confidence in Christ death and sufferings.

Christian.

Yet I will hope against all hop and although, according to mine ow* 1.21 sense and feeling, I want faith: yet I will b leeue in Iesus Christ, and trust to be sau by him.

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Sathan.

Though the children of GOD haue beene in many perplexities, yet neuer any of them haue bin in this case, in which thou art at this present.

Christian.

Heerein thou prouest thy selfe to be a lying spirite: for the Prophet Dauid aith of himselfe, that he was foolish, and as* 1.22 a beast before God: and yet he euen then trusted in God. And Paule was so led cap∣iue of sinne, that he was not able to do the good he would, but did the euill which hee ated: and so in great pensiuenes of heart, desired to be deliuered from this world, that ee might bee disburdened of his corrupt ••••esh.

Sathan.

Thou miserable wretch, doest ••••ou feele thy selfe gracelesse, and wilt thou eare the face of a Christian? and by thy ypocrisie offend God? as thou art, so shew ••••y selfe to the world.

Christian.

Auoide Sathan, Christe hath anquished, and ouercome thee for my ause, that I might also triumph ouer thee. am no hypocrite: for whereas I haue had eeretofore some testimonie of my faith, at his time I am lesse mooued, though faith ••••eme to be absent: like as a man may seeme 〈◊〉〈◊〉 bee dead, both in his owne sense, and by

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the iudgement of the Phisition, and yet maie haue life in him: so faith maie bee, though alwaies it doe not appeare.

Sathan.

But thou art a man starke dead in sin, God hath now quite forsaken thee: hee hath left thee vnto me to be ruled: hee hath giuen me power ouer thee, to bring thee to damnation: he will not haue thee to trust in him anie longer.

Christian.

Strengthen me good Lord; re∣member thy mercifull promises, that thou* 1.23 wilt reuiue the humble, & giue life to them that are of a contrite heart.

Sathan.

These promises concerne not thee, which hast no humble and contrite, but a froward, and a rebellious heart.

Christian.

Good Lorde forget not thy former mercies: giue an issue to these temp∣tations of mine enemie Satan. And you my bretheren, which know my estate, praie for me, that God woulde turne his fauourable countenance towards me: for this I know, that the ptaier of the righteous auaileth* 1.24 much, if it be feruent.

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