The answere.
I say first, that if all this were graunted, it could but at the most proue, that the saints pray for vs, which in a good sense [ 1] may be admitted. For I willingly graunt that the saintes in heauen doe in generall maner and termes pray for vs; that is, that they wishe vs to perseuere in the true faith and feare of God,* 1.1 and yt in the end we may be partakers with thē of eternal glory. I say secondly, that sundry learned men doe thinke these homilies (from whence this obiection is taken) not to be any [ 2] part of Origens workes. I say thirdly, that if Origen doe make that a constant doctrine in one place, which he graunteth to be [ 3] a disputable question in another place; what remaineth, but to thinke his opinion therein to be of no force. I say fourthly, that [ 4] the papistes (as their Ruffinus recordeth,* 1.2) will admit nothing in Origen, which disliketh them; but reiect all such stuffe, as in∣farsed into his workes by the heretickes. Let them therefore giue vs leaue also to reiect in Origen, if in any place he seeme to approoue inuocation of saintes, as that which is infarsed by the heretickes: specially because in other places, he teacheth the contrary doctrine.