The co[n]futacyon of Tyndales answere made by syr Thomas More knyght lorde chau[n]cellour of Englonde

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The co[n]futacyon of Tyndales answere made by syr Thomas More knyght lorde chau[n]cellour of Englonde
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More, Thomas, Sir, Saint, 1478-1535.
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Prentyd at London :: By wyllyam Rastell,
1532.
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Tyndale, William, d. 1536. -- Answere unto Sir Thomas Mores dialoge -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
Protestantism -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
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yet he is in hande agayne wyth agape often and bryn∣geth not forthe one wyse worde. For though thys greke worde agape sygnyfye loue indyfferentely good and bad: yet thys worde charyte sygnyfyeth no loue but good. And therfore in such places of scrypture, as agape sygnifyeth good loue: why sholde Tindale translatyng in to englysh, rather take this worde loue that sygnyfyeth no more good loue then badde / rather this worde charyte that sygnyfyeth

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[ A] no loue but good. This I aske hym yet agayne.

Now though this laten worde charitas was a worde vsed amonge the hethen ere Cryste cam / & though yt had sygny∣fyed in laten at that tyme amonge them an euyll loue and a noughty: yet this englyshe word charyte neuer sygnyfyed amonge vs any other loue then good / not euē in that speche that Tyndale speketh of, that turkes be charytable among them selfe, & some of them to crysten people to / where yt sy∣gnyfyeth yet rather pytye then loue. And therfore Tyndale muste in hys englysshe translacyon take hys englysshe wor∣des as they sygnyfye in englyshe, rather then as the wordes sygnyfye in the tonge, out of whyche they were taken in to the englysshe. And yet remember I not that charitas in the la∣tyne tonge was vsed to sygnyfye euyll loue. And I saye to [ B] Tyndale yet ferther, that though thys englysshe worde che∣ryte had ben englysshe before the byrthe of Cryste, and had then sygnyfyed amonge englysshe infydelys an euyll wan∣ton loue / ye though it had then amonge thē sygnyfyed none other loue but noughty: yet syth it sygnyfyeth not that but the contrary now in our tyme, and so hath sygnyfyed longe before our dayes / Tyndale muste nedys in hys englysshe translacyon vse hys englysshe wordes in suche sygnyfyca∣cyon as the people vseth them in hys owne tyme / and not in such sygnyfycacyō as they were vsed in of olde tyme, which the people haue chaunged and forgoten hūdrethes of yerys ere he were borne.

For ellys he sholde make a gaye confusyon, yf he wolde in the maters of vertue and crysten fayth vse the olde wor∣des [ C] after the olde fasshyon / and take ides for nothynge but suche as it sygnyfyed ere Cryste came. Then where so euer he founde in saynte Austyne and other holy doctours persona patris, persona filij, persona spiritus sancti: Tyndale muste call them not the persons but the visours of the father, the sonne, and the holy ghost / & make men wene yt they dawnce in a maske.

And thus yet agayne ye se to how lytle purpose this rea∣son serueth Tyndale, that agape and charitas were wordes vsed amonge the hethen ere Cryste was borne.

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