M. Hardinge. The .12. Diuision.
M. Iuel alleginge for the hauing of the Praiers, and Seruice in a Vulgare tongue (as for Englande, in the Englishe, for Irelande in the Irishe, for Douchelande in the Douche tongue &c.) authorities and examples of the Churches, where in the time of the Primitiue Churche the Greeke, and Latine tongue was the vsual and Common Tongue of the people•• bringeth nothing for proufe of that, which lieth in controuersie. Arnobius, saithe he, called the Latine tongue Sermonem Italum: S. Am∣brose in Millane, S. Augustine in Aphrike, S. Gregorie in Rome preached in Latine, and the people vnderstoode them.* 1.1 What then? No man denieth you this. S. Basile also speaketh of a sounde, vvhiche the Menne, VVemen, and Children made in their praiers to God, like the sounde of a vvhaue strikinge the sea bankes. VVhat can you conclude of this necessarily M. Iuel? Al this may be vnderstanded of the soundinge that one woorde, Amen, ánsweared at the prayers ende, whiche is doone nowe by the Quier, and may be doone by the people also, in the lower parte of the Churche. For S. Hierome leadeth vs so to thinke. VVho commendinge the deuotion of the people of Rome,* 1.2 saithe in like manner. Vbi sic ad similitudinem coelestis tonitrui, Amen reboa••, & vacua idolorum templa quatiuntur? VVhere els are the Churches, and the Sepulchres of Mar∣tyrs, with so feruent deuotion, and with so greate companie resorted vnto? (which woordes goe before) where dothe Amen geue so lowde a sounde, like the thunderclappe out of the ayer, so as the Temples emptied of Idoles, shake with it, as at Rome?
The people speaketh vvith the Priest at the Mystical prayers, saieth Chrysostome, alleged by m. Iuel. VVhat then? So was it longe before, euen in the Apostles time, as we reade in Clement, and likewise in S. Cyprian,* 1.3 in Cyrillus Hierosolymitanus, and many others. So is it nowe. For he shal finde in the olde Fathers, that to Per omnia soecula soeculorum (whiche Chrysostome speaketh of) to Dominus vobiscum: so light as they make of it: to Sursum corda: and to Gratias agamus Do∣mino Deo nostro, the people answeared, 75.* 1.4 as nowe also they answeare, Amen, & cum spiritu ••uo, habemus ad Dominum, dignum & iustum est.