A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.

The B. of Sarisburie.

The mater, that hangeth in question betwene vs, is whether the people being assembled togeather in the Churche, at any time within the space limited, receiued the Communion vnder one kinde. M. Harding answeareth me, not of the order of the Churche, but of seueral men, and Priuate houses. Thus he flieth that thinge, that should be proued: and the thinge that néedeth no proufe, as nothinge perti∣nent vnto the mater, he proueth onely to coniecture.* 1.1 In the place of Tertullian he vseth a manifest corruption, as I haue already shewed.

His coniectures be these: Wemen receiued the Sacrament in a linen clothe: Tertullians wife receiued it at home before meates: S Cyprian saith, A woman keapte it at home in a Cheaste: Ergo, The Sacrament was ministred in one Kinde. These be colde gheasses, & no prou••es. To say, They had the Breade, Ergo, They had not the wine, is a very fainte reason, and han∣geth onely of ignorance, for that M. Hardinge knoweth not, in what order these

thinges were keapte. But that women and others keapte the Sacrament, & car∣ried it about them, and that in Bothe Kindes, it is euident, and cannot be denied.

Gregorie Nazianzene thus writeth of his sister Gorgonia,* 1.2 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉. &c. If her hande had layde vp any portion of the tokens of the pretious Body, and of the Bloude, minglinge it with her teares &c. Here Nazianzene, contrary to M. Har∣dinges iudgement, saith, she had laide vp bothe partes. And what should I stande longe, to heape examples? M. Hardinges owne Amphilochius,* 1.3 of whome he sée∣meth to make so greate accompte, emonge other his fables, whereof he hath good stoare, saith, That a certaine Iewe came and receiued emonge the Faithful, and priuily carried parte of either Kinde home with him. How, or wherein, it is not written. Yet wil it not followe: M. Hardinge cannot tel wherein the Iewe carried home the wine: therefore Amphilochius tale is not true.

Now, if M. Harding had his owne request, yet is he farre of from his purpose. For if he woulde reason thus, One woman receiued the halfe Sacrament in one Kinde at home, Ergo, The People receiued in like sorte openly in the Churche, Which is the thing that should be prooued, this argument would hardely holde.

To be shorte, these thrée examples here alleged are nothing els, but méere abuses of the Sacrament.* 1.4 And therefore as it appeareth by S. Cyprian, God shewed him selfe by miracle, to be offended with it, frayeing y^e woman, y^t so had keapte it, with a ••lame of fier. And it was decréed in y^e Coūcel holden at C••saraugusta in Spaine, That if any man receiued the Sacrament, and eate not the same presently in the Churche, he should be accursed for euer. Thus M. Hardinges reasons holde onely by gheasse: grounded vpon abuse: and beinge graunted, yet are not hable to proue his purpose.

Notes

• * 1.1

  M. Hardinge falsifieth Ter∣tullian.
• * 1.2

  Nazian. in fu∣nere Gorgoniae.
• * 1.3

  Amphilochius.
• * 1.4

  Cyprian. de Lapsis Serm. 5. Conci••. Caesar∣august. ca. 3.