A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.

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A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
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Jewel, John, 1522-1571.
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Anno. 1565.
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Harding, Thomas, 1516-1572. -- Answere to Maister Juelles chalenge.
Catholic Church -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
Catholic Church -- Doctrines -- Early works to 1800.
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"A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie." In the digital collection Early English Books Online. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A04474.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed June 16, 2024.

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M. Hardinge. The .12. Diuision.

And bicause M. Iuel beareth the worlde in hande, nothinge can be brought for it of our side: some places I wel llege here, that seeme to me very euidently to proue, that the vse of bothe kindes hath no alwaies beene thought necessarie to al persons, and that the Communion vnder one kinde, hath beene practised and holden for good within the sixe hundred yeeres after Christe, that he woulde so faine inde vs vnto.

Here may be alleged first thexample of our Lorde him selfe out of the .xxiiij. Chapter of S. Luke whiche is spoken of before: where it is declared that he gaue the Sacrament vnto the two Disciples at Emaus vnder* 1.1 the forme of Bread onely: whiche place ought to haue the more weight of autho∣ritie in a Catholike mans iudgement, bicause it is brought by the Councel of¶ 1.2 Constance, and also by the Councel of Basile, for proufe of the Communion vnder one kinde. That it was the Sacrament, the auncient Doctours doo affirme it plainely, and the woordes conferred with the woordes of our Lordes Supper, doo agree: and that it is not needeful of our owne head to adde thereto th••••ministra∣tion of the Cuppe, as our aduersaries doo by their figure Synecdoche: it appeareth by that those wo Disciples, declared to the .xij. Apostles assembled togeather in Hierusalem, howe they knewe our Lorde in fractione Panis, in breakinge of the Breade to them, which cannot be taken for the wine. And as soone as they knewe him in breakinge of the Breade, he vanished away from their sight, er that he tooke the Cuppe into his handes, and blissed it, and gaue it vnto them, 56* 1.3 as it appeareth euidently inough to S. Augustine, to Bede, and to al other that be not wilfully opinatiue.

Againe, what neede is it to vse violence in this Scripture, and ioygne vnto it a patche of our owne diuise, by so simple a warrant of a figure, sithe that accordinge to the minde of the learned Fa∣thers, Christe gaue here to the two Disciples, not a peece of the Sacrament, but the whole Sacrament, as it is proued by the effecte of the same: and the effecte presupposeth the cause. For S. Augustine confesseth by that Sacrament of Breade (so he calleth it) Vnitate corporis participata, remoueri impedimentum inimici, vt Christus posset agnosci, that thereby they were made partakers of the vnitie of Christes bodie, that is to saye, made one Body with Christe, and that al impediment or let of the enemie the Diuel, was taken away, so as Christe might be acknowleged. What more shoulde they haue gotten, if they had receiued the Cuppe also?

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