A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.

M. Hardinge. The .34. Diuision.

Nowe one place more for proufe of Priuate Masse, at the windinge vp of this mater, and then an ende of this article. 41* 1.1 This place is twise founde in Chrysostome, in an Homilie vpon the Epi∣s••le to the Ephesians,* 1.2 and more plainely in an Homelie Ad populum Antiochenum, where he hath these very woordes: Multam video rerum inaequalitatē. In alijs quidem temporibus, cùm pu∣ri frequenter sitis, non acceditis: In Pascha vero licet sit aliquid à vobis patratum, accedi∣tis. O consuetudinem, ô praesumptionem. Sacrificium frustra quotidianum. In cassum assistimus altari. Nullus qui Communicetur. I see greate inequalitie of thinges amonge you. At other times, when as for the most parte ye are in cleane life, ye come not to receiue your rightes. But at Easter though ye haue doone some thinges amisse, yet ye come. O what a custome is this: O what a presumption is this? The daily Sacrifice is offred in vaine. VVe stande at the Aultare for nought. There is not one that wil be houseled.

Here is to be noted, where as Chrysostome saithe, the daily Sacrifice was celebrated in vaine, and the priestes stoode at the Aultare in vaine: it is not to be vnderstanded of the Sacrifice in it selfe, as though it were in vaine, and frustrate: but this is to be referred to the people: it was in vaine for their parte, that shoulde haue receiued their Communion with the priestes, who waited daily for them, and cried out as the manner was, Sancta Sanctis, Holie thinges for the Holie: and after that they had receiued the breade them selues, shewinge the Chalice to the people, saide: Cum ti∣more dei, & fide, & dilectione accedite. Come ye vp to receiue with the feare of God, with faithe, and charitie. But al was invaine. 42* 1.3 For none came: so colde was their deuotion in that behalfe. Nowe if Chrysostome had cause to complaine of the peoples slackenesse in comminge to the Communion, in that greate and populous Citie of Antioche, where the Scriptures were daily expoun∣ded and 43* 1.4 preached, where discipline and good order was more straitely exacted, where in so greate number some of likelihoode were of more deuotion then others: what is to be thought of ma∣ny little townes and villages, through the worlde, where little preachinge was hearde, where di∣scipline slaked, where the number of the faithfuls beinge smal, and they occupied altogeather in worldly affaires, fewe gaue good example of deuotion to others? Doubtlesse in suche places was

muche lesse resorte of the people at the Masse time, to receiue the Sacrament with their priestes. And where as least this place might seeme plainely to auouche the hauinge of Masse without a number Communicatinge with the Bishop, or Priest, for auoidinge of this authoritie, the Gospellers an∣sweare by way of coniecture, that in Chrysostomes time the Priestes and Deacons Communicated to∣geather dayly with the partie that offred the Sacrifice though none of the people did: we tel them that this poore shifte wil not serue their purpose. For though they say, some sufficient nu••ber euer Com∣municated with him, that celebrated the Daily Sacrifice, in that greate and famous Churche of Anti∣oche, where many Priestes and Deacons were,* 1.5 whiche neither beinge denied, they shal neuer be hable to proue: What may be saide or thought of many thousande other lesser Churches through the world, where the Priest that saide Masse had not in readinesse a sufficient number of other Priestes and Dea∣cons to receiue with him, so to make vp a Communion? Of suche Churches it must be saide, that ei∣ther the Sacrifice ceased, and that was not doone which 44* 1.6 Christe commaunded to be doone in his re∣membrance, whiche is not to be graunted: or that the memorie of our Lordes death was oftentimes celebrated of the Priestes in the daily oblation without tarieinge for others to Communicate with them, and so had these Churches Priuate Masses, as the Churches now a daies haue. Now to conclude of this moste euident place of Chrysostome, euery childe is hable to make an inuincible argument a∣gainst M. Iuel for the Priuate Masse, as they cal it, in this sorte. By reporte of Chrysostome the Sacri∣fice in his time was daily offred, that is to say, the Masse was celebrated: but many times no body came to Communicate Sacramentally with the Priestes, 45* 1.7 as it is before proued: Ergo, There were Masses donne without other receiuinge the Sacrament with the Priestes. And then further: Ergo, Priuate Masses in Chrysostomes daies were not straunge: and then yet one steppe further, there to staye: Ergo, M. Iuel accordinge to his owne promise and offer, must yeelde, subscribe, and recant vnto a gheasse.

Notes

• * 1.1

  The .41. Vntruthe. Priuate Masse is ne¦uer founde in Chryso∣stome.
• * 1.2

  Homil. 61. ad popul. Antioch▪
• * 1.3

  The .42. Vntruthe. There came ma∣ny, both of the people, and also of the Clere∣gie.
• * 1.4

  The .43. Vntruthe. There vvas no such dai¦ly prea∣chinge: As shal ap∣peare. M. Hard. seeketh vp his Masse in litle tovvnes and Villages.
• * 1.5

  Priuate Masse pro∣ued by a simple Col∣lection.
• * 1.6

  The .44. vntruthe. Christe cō∣maunded no suche daily Sacri∣fice.
• * 1.7

  The .45. vn¦truth. This is not yet proued.