A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.

The B. of Sarisburie.

Here M. Hardinge beginneth to scanne his Tenses, to rippe vp Syllables, and to hunte for Letters: And in the ende buildeth vp the highest Castle of his Reli∣gion vpon a gheasse. I maruel, that so learned a man woulde either vse so vnlear∣ned argumentes: or, hauinge suche stoare of Authorities, as he pretendeth, woulde euer make so simple choise.

He saith, These woordes, Is Geuen, Is Shead, be woordes of Sacrificinge, thoughe the Terme it selfe of Oblation, and Sacrifice, be not expressed. Here M. Hardinge, bisides that he hath imagined a strange Construction of his owne, that neuer any learned man knewe before, and so straggleth alone, and swarueth from al the Olde Fa∣thers, includeth also a Repugnance, and Contradictiō against him selfe. For, where as Woordes, and Termes sounde bothe one thinge, the one beinge mere Englishe, the other borowed of the Latine, M. Harding saithe, Christe in the Institution of his Sup∣per, vsed the VVoordes of Sacrificing, and yet expressed not the Termes of Sacrificinge. Suche Pri∣uilege these menne haue, with shifte of termes to beguile the Worlde. For yf Christe vsed the Woordes of Sacrificinge, howe can M. Hardinge saie, He vsed not the Termes of Sacrificinge? And yf he vsed not the Termes (Woordes, and Ter∣mes beinge one thinge) how can he saie, He vsed the woordes?

Uerily yf this Latine woorde, Dare, be, Sacrificare: and, Geuinge, be Sacri∣ficinge,* 1.1 then,* 1.2 where as S. Paule saithe,* 1.3 If thine enimie be thirsty, Geue him drinke: And, where as Iudas saithe, What wil ye Geue me, and I wil deliuer him vnto yowe: And, where as the Foolishe Uirgins saie, Geue vs parte of youre O••le, &c. In euery of these, and suche other like places, by this Newe Diuinitie, M. Hardinge wil be hable to finde a Sacrifice.

Yet, saith he, Certaine menne of excellent knowledge haue thus expounded it. It see∣meth very strange, that these so notable menne, of so excellent Knowledge shoulde haue no names. Perhappes he meaneth Tapper of Louaine, or Gropper of Colaine, of whom he hath borowed the whole substance welneare of al this Article. How be it, the demaunde was of the Ancient Doctours of the Churche: not of any of these, or other suche petite Fathers.

But Christe saithe in the Present Tense: This is my Bodie, That Is Geuen:

not in the Future Tense, That Shalbe Geuen. And likewise, This is my Bloude,* 1.4 That Presently is Shead: not in the Future Tense, That Shalbe Shead. Therefore Christe Sacrificed his Bodie, and shead his Bloude presently at the Supper.

Here M. Hardinge is driuen to control the Olde Common Translation of the Newe Testamente, not onely, that beareth the name of S. Hierome, & hath benne euermore generally receiued in the Churche, and is allowed by the Councel of Tri∣dente, but also, y^t is stil vsed, & continewed in his owne Masse Booke. I graunte, In the Greeke it is written, Datur, Is Geuen: not Dabitur, Shalbe Geuen. But here the Presente Tense, accordinge to the Common Phrase of the Scriptures, is vsed for the Future. Chrysostome readeth it thus,* 1.5 Dabitur, Shalbe Geuen: not Datur, Is Geuen. Origen likewise readeth, not, Effunditur, Is Shead: but, Effun∣detur, Shalbe Shead. And in this sorte Chrysostome also expoundeth it: Effundetur pro multis. Hoc dicens, ostendit, quòd Passio eius est Mysteriū Salutis humanae: per quod etiam Discipulos consolatur. Shalbe shead for many. Thus saieinge, he sheweth, that his Passion is the Mysterie of the Saluation of mankinde: and by the same he comforteth his Disciples.* 1.6 Againe he saithe, De Passione, & Cruce sua loquebatur. Christe (vtteringe these woordes of the Sacramente) spake of his Passion, and of his Crosse.

To be shorte, yf it be true, that Christe shead his Bloude at his Last Supper, and that Uerily, Really, and in deede, as M. Hardinge alone strangely auoucheth, and noman els, I trowe, beside him, then can he no more saie, The same was an Vn∣bloudy Sacrifice: And so must he yelde vp the strongest Tower of al his Holde. For yf the Sacrifice, that Christe made at his Supper, were Unbloudy, howe did Christ there Shead his Bloude? Yf Christe, as M. Hardinge saith, did there Shead his Bloude, howe can that Sacrifice be called Un••loudy?

But to leaue these fantasies, and vaine shyftes, Christe gaue his Bodie to be broken, and his Bloude to be shead, not at his Last Supper, but onely vpon his Crosse, and no where els.* 1.7 There he bare our iniquities: there was he rent for our Sinnes. And in that onely respecte we receiue his Bodie, and embrace it, and haue fruite of it. In this respecte S. Paule saith,* 1.8 God forebid, I should reioice in any thinge, sauinge onely in the Crosse of our Lorde Iesus Christe.

Therefore, this newe Article of the Faith, of the Real Sacrificinge, & Shead∣dinge of Christes Bloude at the Table, neither beinge true in it selfe, nor hitherto by M. Hardinge any waie prooued, notwithstandinge the greate Stoare, and choise of his Authorities: for as muche as Christe neuer gaue, neither his Apostles, nor any their successours Commission to doo more in that behalfe, then he him selfe had donne, To saie, that any mortal man hath Power, and Authoritie, Really, and in deede to Sacrifice the Sonne of God, it is a manifest, and wicked blasphemie: the greate, and grosse errours, wherewith the Diuel, and his Disciples in the time of his Kingedome of darknesse haue deceiued the world, notwithstandinge.

As for Clemens, whom M. Hardinge so often calleth the Apostles felowe, as he is but lately start vp, and comme abroade, and therefore hath not yet gotten suffi∣cient credit, and is here brought in dumme, & saieinge nothinge, so is he not woor∣thy of further answeare. Howe be it M. Hardinge dooth greate wronge, otherwise to reporte his Authours woordes, then he findeth them. Truely his Clemēs, what so euer he were, saith not, The Priest hath Commission, or Power, to offer vp the Sonne of God.* 1.9 His woordes are plaine to the contrary: Antitypon Regalis Corporis Christē offerte: Offer ye vp (not the Bodie of Christe, but) the Signe, or Sacramente of the Roial Bodie of Christ. Likewise againe he saith, Offerimus tibi Regi, & Deo, iuxta Institutionē Christi, Hūc Panē, & Hoc Poculū: Wee offer vp vnto thee, our Kinge and God (not the very Bodie of thy Sonne Really,* 1.10 & in deede, but) This Breade, and this Cuppe, accor∣dinge to Christes Institution. It is a greate Prerogatiue for M. Hardinge, both to make

Doctours of his owne, and also to geue them his owne Constructions.

Neither did Christe by these woordes, Doo ye this in my Remembrance, erect•• any newe Succession of Sacrificers, to offer him vp Really vnto his Father: nor euer did any Ancient learned Father so expounde it. Christes meaninge is cleare by the woordes, that folowe. For he saithe not onely, Doo yee this, but he addeth also, In my Remembrance: Whiche Dooinge perteineth, not onely vnto the Apostles, and their successours, as M. Hardinge imagineth, but also to the whole people. And therefore S. Paule saithe, not onely to the Ministers, but also to the whole Congregation of Corinthe,* 1.11 As often, as ye shal eate this Er••ade, and drinke this Cuppe, Ye shal shewe foorthe, and publishe the Lordes Deathe, vntil ••e come. Likewise S. Chrysostome applieth the same, not onely to the Cleregie, but also to the whole people of his Churche of Antioche. Thus he saithe,* 1.12 Hoc fa∣cite in memoriam Beneficij mei, Salutis vestrae: Doo ye this in Remembrance of my Be∣nefite, and of your Saluation.

Of these weake positions M. Hardinge without the warrante, or authoritie of any learned Father reasoneth thus: Christe saithe, This is my Bodie, that is geuen for you: Doo this in my Remembrance:

Ergo, The Prieste hath power to offer vp the Sonne of God vnto his Father.

Notes

• * 1.1

  Roman. 1••.
• * 1.2

  Matth. 26.
• * 1.3

  Matthae. 25.
• * 1.4

  Christes Bloude Shead at Supper.
• * 1.5

  Chrysostom▪ in. 1. Corin .11. Origen. in Mat∣thaeum. tract. 35.
• * 1.6

  Chrysostom▪ in Caten••.
• * 1.7

  ••sai. 53.
• * 1.8

  ••alat. 6.
• * 1.9

  Clemens Constit. Apostoli. lib. 6. cap. 30.
• * 1.10

  Clemens Constit. Apostol. lib. 8.
• * 1.11

  1. Corin. 1••▪
• * 1.12

  Chrysostom. ad popul. Antio∣chen. hom. 61.