A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.

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A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
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Jewel, John, 1522-1571.
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Harding, Thomas, 1516-1572. -- Answere to Maister Juelles chalenge.
Catholic Church -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
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"A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie." In the digital collection Early English Books Online. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A04474.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed June 8, 2024.

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The B. of Sarisburie.

Here at laste, M. Hardinge hath founde out the name of a Sacrifice, that was not denied him. But the Sacrifice, that he hath so longe sought for, and hath so as∣suredly promised to finde, hitherto he hath not founde. For Irenaeus not once na∣meth, neither the Masse, nor this Real Oblation of the Sonne of God vnto his Fa∣ther. Thus onely he saith, God hath vtterly misliked, and refused the olde Carnal Sacrifices of the Iewes: and hath taught vs to offer vp the Newe Sacrifice of the Newe Testamente, accordinge to the Prophecie of Malachie.* 1.1 This Sacrifice, M. Hardinge imgineth, can be none other, but ye offeringe vp of Christ in ye Masse. These Conclusions be very suddaine. The Olde learned Fathers coulde neuer vnderstande so muche. One of M. Hardinges owne Newefounde Doctours, Martialis, saith thus, Oblatio mun∣da,* 1.2 non tantùm in Ara Sanctificaa offertur, sed etiam vbique: The pure Sacrifice, whiche Malachie meaneth, is offered, not onely vpon the Holy Aultare (or Communion Table) but also euerywhere. M. Hardinge saithe, It is offered onely vpon the Aultare: Martialis saithe, It is offered euerywhere, and not onely vpon the Aultare. Certainely if Malachie meante the Sacrifice, that may be offered in al places, and without an Aultare, as Martialis saithe,* 1.3 then he meante not the Sacrifice of the Masse. Tertullian saithe, That the Prophete Malachie by that Pure Sacrifice, meante the Preachinge of the Gospel:* 1.4 the offeringe vp of a Contrite Harte: and praier proceedinge from a pure Conscience. S. Hierome likewise expoundeth the same of the Sacrifice of Praier, and openeth it by these Woordes of the Prophete Dauid:* 1.5 Let my Praier be directed, as incense before thy sighte. S. Augustine calleth the same, Sacrificium Laudis, & Gratiarum actionis: The Sacrifice of Praise, and of Thankesgeuinge.

In like sorte Irenaeus also expoundeth his owne meaninge, Ecclesia offert Deo cum Gratiarum actione ex Creatura eius.* 1.6 Est ergo Altare in Coelo: Illuc Preces, & Ob∣lationes nostrae diriguntur: The Churche offereth vpto God, (not his owne, and onely Sonne, but) Natural thinge of Goddes Creation. Neither is our Aultare here in Earthe, but in Heauen. Thither our Praiers, and Sacrifices be directed. So likewise Eusebius saith, Sacrificamus, & incendimus Memoriam Magni illius Sacrificij, secundum ea, quae ab ipso tradita sunt, Mysteria celebrantes, & gratias Deo pro salute nostra agentes: Wee Sacri∣fice,* 1.7 and offer vp vnto God the Remembrance of that Greate Sacrifice, vsinge the Holy Mysteries accordingly, as Christe hath deliuered them, and geuinge God Thankes for our Saluation.

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And that Ireneus meante not any suche Real Sacrifice of the Sonne of God,* 1.8 nor maie not in any wise so be taken, it is euidente by the plaine woordes, that folowe, touchinge the same. For thus he saithe, speakinge of the very same Sacri∣fice of the Newe Testamente, that is mentioned by Malachie: Sacrificia non Sancti∣ficant hominem: sed conscientia eius, qui offert, existens pura, sanctificat Sacrificium. The Sacrifice dooth not Sanctifie the Man: but the Conscience of the offerer, beinge pure, Sanctifieth the Sacrifice. I trowe, M. Hardinge wil not saie, The Prieste is not Sancti∣fied by the Sonne of God: but the Sonne of God is sanctified by the Conscience of the Priest: For that were Blasphemie. And yet thus must he needes saie, yf Ireneus meante the Real Sacrificinge of the Sonne of God.

But M. Hardinge hath diuised a greate many replies to the contrary. First he faithe, The offeringe vp of Praier, Praises, and Thankesgeuinge cannot be called a Newe Sacrifice: for the same was made by Moses, Aaron, the Prophetes, and other holy menne in the Olde Lawe. This obiection serueth wel to control Tertullian, S. Augustine, and S. Hierome, and other learned Fathers, that thus haue taken it: who, by M. Hardinges iudgemente, wrote vnaduisedly, they knewe not what. Hereunto Ire∣neus him selfe answeareth thus: Oblationes hic:* 1.9 Oblationes illic. Sacrificia in Populo Israēl: Sacrificia in Ecclesia. Sed species immutata est tantū. Quippe cùm iā non à Seruis, sed à Liberis offeruntur. There were Sacrifices in the Olde Testamente: There be Sacrifices in the Newe. There were Sacrifices in the People of Israel: there be Sacrifices in the Church. Onely the manner, or forme is changed. For nowe they be offered, not by Bonde menne (as before) but by Free menne. In like sense writeth Angelomus:* 1.10 Mandatum Nouum scri∣bo vobis, non alterum: sed ipsum, quod dixi Vetus, idem est Noum. I write vnto yowe a Newe Commaundemente: None other, but that I called the Olde, the selfe same is the Newe. And it is called a Newe Sacrifice, saithe Chrysostome,* 1.11 Bicause it proceedeth from a Newe minde, and is offered, not by fiere, and smoke, but by Grace, and by the Sprite of God. And in this consideration Ireneus thinketh, Dauid saide vnto the Children of the Churche of Christe,* 1.12 O singe vnto the Lorde a Newe Songe.

M. Hardinge saithe further, The VVoordes of Malachie maie in no wise be taken for the Oblation of Christe vpon the Crosse. For that, saithe he, was donne at one time onely, and in one certaine place, in Golgotha without the Gates of Hierusalem, and not in euery place. Yet M. Hardinge maie easily vnderstande, that the Remembrance of that Sacrifice, and Thankesgeuinge for the same, maie be made at al times, & in al places. And there∣fore Eusebius, as it is noted before, calleth our Sacrifice,* 1.13 Magni illius Sacrificij Me∣moriam, The Remembrance of that greate Sacrifice: and, the Thankesgeuinge, whiche wee yelde vnto God for our Saluation. Dionysius calleth it, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉, a Figu∣ratiue Sacrifice. And S. Augustine saithe, Cùm credimus in Christū, ex ipsis reliquijs cogitationis, Christus nobis quotidiè immolatur:* 1.14 When wee beleeue in Christe, euen of the very remanentes of our Cogitation (in what place so euer wée be) Christe is Sacrificed vnto vs euery daie. Likewise S. Hierome saithe, Cùm audimus Sermonem Domini,* 1.15 Caro Christi, & Sanguis eius in auribus nostris funditur. When wee heare the woorde of the Lorde, the Fleashe of Christe and his Bloude is powred out into our eares. And, where as M. Hardinge saithe further,* 1.16 that the Spiritual Sacrifices of our deuotion cannot al∣togeather be called pure, and therefore cannot be the Sacrifices of the Newe Te∣stamente, it must needes be confessed, that al our righteousnes, in respecte of many imperfections, maie be compared, as the prophete Esai saithe, vnto a filthy clowte. Yet in respecte of Goddes mercie, and in Christe, the prophete Dauid saithe, Thowe shalt washe me, and I wil be whiter, then the snowe.

Howe be it, herein I wil remit M. Hardinge to the iudgemente of them, whoes Authorities he cānot wel denie. Eusebius calleth our Praiers, Mundū Sacrificium, A Pure Sacrifice. Tertullian saithe, Wee make Sacrifice vnto our God,* 1.17 for the safetie of

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our Emperours,* 1.18 Pura prece, with a Pure Praier. S. Hierome speaking of the Sacrifice of Christian Praiers, saithe thus: A pure Sacrifice is Offered vnto me in euery place: not in the Oblations of the Olde Testamente,* 1.19 but in the holynes of the Puritie of the Gospel. To be short, S. Paule saithe, Volo viros precari in omni loco, leuantes manus Puras: I woulde,* 1.20 that menne shoulde praie in al places, liftinge vp Pure handes (vnto God.)

Touchinge the Sacrifice of the Lordes Table, Eusebius writeth thus: 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉: He gaue vs a Remem∣brance in steede of a Sacrifice to offer vp continually vnto God.* 1.21 And this he calleth, Incruentum, & Rationabile Sacrificium: The vnbloudy, and Reasonable Sacrifice. This, saithe Iraeneus, is the Sacrifice of the Newe Testament. This Sacrifice the Churche recei∣ued of the Apostles: and the same the Apostles receiued of Christe, that made al thinges Newe.

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