A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.

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A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
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Jewel, John, 1522-1571.
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Anno. 1565.
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Harding, Thomas, 1516-1572. -- Answere to Maister Juelles chalenge.
Catholic Church -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
Catholic Church -- Doctrines -- Early works to 1800.
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"A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie." In the digital collection Early English Books Online. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A04474.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed June 16, 2024.

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The B. of Sarisburie.

Here M. Hardinge allegeth good mater against him self. For by these woor∣des S. Augustine saith, The Breade is so Christes Bodie, as the Breakinge of the same Breade is Christes Death. But the breaking of ye Breade is not Really, and in deede the Death of Christe: wherefore it foloweth that the Breade is not Really, or in deede the Bodie of Christe. And where as M. Harding seemeth to staie altogeather vpon these two woordes, Coelestis Panis, thinkinge that thereby is meante onely the Supernatural Breade of Christes very Bodie, it may like him neuertheles to vnderstande, that, not onely Christes very Bodie, but also ye Sacra∣ment it self, may wel be called, Coelestis Panis, Heauenly Breade, for that it is a Sacrament of that Heauenly Breade.* 1.1 So Gregorius Nyssenus calleth the Water of Baptisme 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉. The Diuine, or Heauenly Bath. So S. Ambrose calleth the woordes of Baptisme, Verba Coelestia, Heauenly Woordes. So Dionysius cal∣leth the Oile Consecrate, Diuinissimum Oleum, 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉. So Cy∣rillus calleth Manna, Spiritual Breade. Thus he saith, Quomodo est Manna Panis An∣gelorum Spiritualis? Quia, quod Vmbra Veritatis erat, Veritatis nomine in Spiritu appel∣lauit. Howe is Manna called the Spiritual Breade of Angelles? That thinge, that was a Shadowe of the Trueth, in Sprite, or Spiritually, he vttered by the name of the Trueth it selfe, And albeit onely Christes very Bodie it self be in deede that Heauēly Breade, yet in these woordes of S. Augustine, it cannot in any wise so be taken, as to the learned, and discrete Reader it maie soone appeare. For first S. Augustine saith, That Heauenly Breade, whereof he speaketh, is a Sacrament. But the very Bo∣die of Christe cannot in any respecte be called a Sacrament, as it is easy to vnder∣stande. For a Sacrament by S. Augustines Definition is, Signum Visibile, A Signe, or a Token, that maie be seene. But the Bodie of Christe, that M. Hardinge imagineth to be Present, cannot be seene: For S. Augustine saith, it is Spiritual, and Inuisible. Hereof it necessarily foloweth, that the very Bodie of Christe can∣not in any wise be called a Sacrament: And therefore is not that kinde of Heauen∣ly Breade, that is here mentioned by S. Augustine.

Moreouer S. Augustine saith, The same Heauenly Breade is the Bodie of Christe: Howe be it he addeth, not Uerily, and in deede, but, Suo modo, In a Manner, or Kinde of speache. But Christes very Bodie, is in deede, and Uerily, in al respec∣tes the Bodie of Christe, without any suche qualifieinge, or limitation. And it were greate fondenes, or rather mere madnes to saie, The Uery Bodie of Christe is after a certaine manner, or in a sorte the Bodie of Christe.

These thinges first considered, for further vnderstandinge of S. Augustines minde herein, I remitte ye reader vnto the Glose vpon the same, the woordes whe∣reof are these,* 1.2 Coelestis Panis, id est, Coeleste Sacramentum, quod verè repraesentat Car∣nem Christi, dicitur Corpus Christi, sed impropriè. Vnde dicitur, Suo Modo: sed non ei Veritate, sed significante Mysterio: vt sit sensus, vocatur Corpus Christi, id est, Significat Corpus Christi. The Heauenly Breade, that is to saie, the Heauenly Sacrament, whiche verily representeth the Fleashe of Christe, is called Christes Bodie, but vnaptely, and vnfitly. Therefore it is saide, In a peculiar manner belonginge vnto it selfe: Not in Trueth of mater, but by a Signifieinge Mysterie: That the sense maie be this, It is called the Bodie of Christe, that is to saye, It signifieth the Bodie of Christe.

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But here marke thou, gentle Reader, into what strastes these men be driuen. To mainteine the Inconueniences, and Absurdities of their Doctrine, they are faine to saie, That the very Bodie of Christe, is not, Rei veritate, Uerily, and in deede, but, Impropriè, Unaptly, and Unfitly called the Bodie of Christe.

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