A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.

The B. of Sarisburie.

This Article, as it is smal of it self, and therefore might the better be dissem∣bled, and past ouer, were it not accessorie to Idolatrie, so it is warranted of M. Har∣dinges side, by very simple, and sclender proufes, as shal appeare. It liketh M. Har∣dinge for his entrie, to solace him self, and his frendes withal, to cal vs Newe Doc∣tours: him self beinge not hable hitherto to allege any one of al the Olde Doctours without force, & fraude, plainely, & directely to serue his purpose. But these Newe Doctours are, neither so newe, nor so much destitute of Antiquitie, as these menne woulde faine haue the worlde to beleue. For, touchinge the abolishinge of the Re∣seruatiō of the Sacrament, whiche M. Hardinge hath here drawen in, to healpe out y^• mater, beinge otherwise not necessarily incident vnto this Article, they haue the Authorities, and Examples of good Ancient Olde Catholique Fathers for theire Warrant in that behalf.* 1.1 For S. Cyprian saith, Panis iste recipitur, non includitur. This Breade is receiued, and not shutte vp. Clemens, who, as M. Hardinge saith, was the Apostles Felowe, writeth thus, Tanta in Altario Holocausta offerantur, quanta populo sufficere debeant: quòd si remanserint, in crastinum non reseruentur. Let there be so many Hostes, or so muche Breade offered at the Aultar, as may be sufficient for the people. If any thinge remaine, let it not be keapte vntil the morninge.* 1.2 Origē, or Cyrillus saith, for one booke beareth both theire names, Dominus Panem, quem Discipulis suis dabat, non distulit, nec iussit seruari in crastinum. The Breade, that Our Lorde gaue to his •• isci∣ples, he lengred it not, nor bade it to be keapte vntil the morninge. His reason is grounded vpon the order of Christes Institution:* 1.3 for that Christe saide not, Take, and Keepe: but Take, and Eate. S. Hierome saith, Post Communionem, quaecunque de Sacrificijs superfuissent,* 1.4 illic in Ecclesia Communem Coenam comedentes pariter consumebant. After the Communion was donne, what so euer portion of the Sacrifices remained, they spente it there togeather in the Churche eatinge theire common Supper. S. Augustine likewise seemeth to saie the same:* 1.5 The Breade made to this purpose, is spent in receiuinge the Sacra∣ment. Hesychius saith, That the Remanentes of the Sacrament were burnte immediatly in the fiere.* 1.6 Nicephorus saith, The same Remanentes in some places were geuen to Children, that went to Schoole, to be ••aten by them presently in the Churche: The like whereof is also decreed in the Councel of Matiscon.* 1.7 So saith Gabriel Biel a Newe Doctoure of M. Hardinges companie: Non dedit Discipulis, vt ipsum honorificè Conseruarent: sed dedit in sui vsum, dicens, Accipite, & Manducate. Christe gaue not (the

Sacrament) to his Disciples, that they shoulde reuerently reserue it: but he gaue it for theire vse, saieinge, Take, and Eate.

Thus many olde Doctours, and yet many moe wee haue on our side. There∣fore M. Hardinge was somewhat ouerseene, for folowing of them, to cal vs Newe Doctours.

I knowe, the Sacrament in olde times in some places was reserued, as it maie appeare by Tertullian, S. Cyprian, S. Hierome, S. Basile, Eusebius,* 1.8 and others. S. Cyprian saith, w••men vsed to keepe it at home in theire Cheastes:* 1.9 Tertullian saith, The Faithful vsed then to haue it in their priuate houses, & to eate it before other meates: S. Hierome saith, that Exuperius the Bishop of Tolouse vsed to carrie it abroade in a basket: S. Basile saith, That in Egypte,* 1.10 and specially about Alexandria, euery man for the most parte had the Sacrament in his house: Euse∣bius seemeth to saie, The Priest had it in his Chamber: S. Ambrose saith,* 1.11 Menne vsed then to carrie it aboute them, not onely by Lande, but also by Sea in theire Naptkins. Al these were Abuses of the holy Mysteries:* 1.12 and therefore afterwarde were abolished. Thus was then the Sacrament reserued, In priuate Houses,* 1.13 in Cheastes, in Baskettes, and in Naptkins. Nowe, if M. Hardinge be hable, truely to shewe any suche like Ancient Authoritie for his Canopie, then maie he saie, he holdeth by the Olde Catolique Fathers. But, for as muche, as M. Hardinge hath leisure, to cal to minde his Olde Fable, of Momus, Uenus, and suche like: In deede they saie, Momus was woonte to espie faultes, and to control al the Goddes without exception, euen the Greate Iuppiter, him self, that sate in Rome in the Capitol: and therefore his office oftetimes was not so thankeful, as some others. But one greate faulte he founde with Uulcane, for the makinge of man, for that he had not sette a grate, or a windowe at his breaste, that others might piere in, and espie some parte of his secrete thoughtes. If M. Hardinge had suche a grate, or windowe at his breaste, and menne might looke in, and see his conscience, I doubte not, but they shoulde sée many moe sparkes of goddes trueth, then as nowe out∣wardly doo appeare.

As for his faire Ladie Uenus, whereby he meaneth his Churche of Rome, the worlde seeth, & he him self knoweth, she hath beene taken in open aduoutrie: & Phe∣bus the Sonne of God, with the heauenly beames of his holy Woorde hath reueiled it. O, Woulde to God, we had no cause iustly to saie with the Prophete Esaie, Quomodo facta est Meretrix Ciuitas Fidelis?* 1.14 O howe is that Faithful Cittie become an Harlot? Uerily Momus shal not neede nowe to reprooue her Slipper. He shal rather haue cause to saie,* 1.15 A planta pedis, vsque ad verticem capitis, non est in ea sanitas. From the Sole of the foote, to the toppe of the heade, there is no whole parte in her.

For so S. Bernarde complaineth of her miserable state in his time.* 1.16

Notes

• * 1.1

  Cyprianus De Coena Domini. Clemens Epist. 2.
• * 1.2

  Origen Cyril. in Leui. ho. ••.
• * 1.3

  Hieronym. 1. Corin. 11.
• * 1.4

  Augustin. de Trinitate. lib. 3. cap. 10.
• * 1.5

  Hesychius in Leui. li. 2. ca. 8.
• * 1.6

  Nicephorus lib. 17. ca. 25.
• * 1.7

  Concil. Matis∣con 2. cap 6. Gabriel. ••iel. lectione. 26.
• * 1.8

  Cyprian de lap∣sis▪ Sermo. 5.
• * 1.9

  Tertullian. ad Vxorem.
• * 1.10

  Hieronym. ad Rus••icum.
• * 1.11

  Basilius ad Cae∣sariam.
• * 1.12

  Euseb. li. 6. c. 44.
• * 1.13

  Ambros. de obi∣tu Satyri.
• * 1.14

  Esai. ••.
• * 1.15

  Esai. 1.
• * 1.16

  Bernardus de Conuersione Pauli.