A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.

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A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
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Jewel, John, 1522-1571.
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Anno. 1565.
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Harding, Thomas, 1516-1572. -- Answere to Maister Juelles chalenge.
Catholic Church -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
Catholic Church -- Doctrines -- Early works to 1800.
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"A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie." In the digital collection Early English Books Online. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A04474.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed June 15, 2024.

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The B. of Sarisburie.

This place maye be passed ouer with the former answeare. S. Augustine here speaketh of the Adoringe of Christe: and not one woorde of the Adoringe of the Sacrament. The whole drifte of his talke standeth in an Allegorie of Hungringe, Eatinge, Fillinge, and Adouringe. We Hunger Christe: we Eate Christe: we be Filled with Christe sittinge in Heauen: and likewise we Adoure, and woorship Christe sittinge in Heauen.

But S. Augustine saithe, Comedunt Pauperem: They Eate Christe beinge poore. We knowe, that Christe is nowe no lenger in the Dispensation of his Pouertie. God hathe exalted him,* 1.1 and geuen him a Name aboue al Names,* 1.2 and made al thinges sub∣iecte to his feete.* 1.3 But S. Augustine calleth him Poore, for that he so humbled him selfe, and became obedient vnto the Deathe, euen vnto the Deathe of the Crosse. In this respecte of his Crosse, of his Deathe, of his Pouertie, wee embrace him: we liue by that Bodie, that was broaken for vs: we be refreashed by that Bloude, that was sheadde for vs. And thus we Eate Christe, and be relieued, and haue our life by him, onely in respecte of his Bloud sheaddinge, and of his Pouertie.

The Poore, that haue refused, and forsaken them selues, Eate Christe sit∣tinge in Heauen, and are Filled with him. But the Ritche Eate him, and A∣doure him likewise sittinge in Heauen: but they are not Filled. They see, that Christe is the very true Messias, that was looked for: they see, that al thinges are fulfilled,* 1.4 that were written of him in the Prophetes, and that his name is publi∣shed vnto the endes of the worlde:* 1.5 they beléeue, that there is none other name vn∣der Heauen,* 1.6 whereby they can be saued. Therefore they Professe his Name: they Beleeue in him: they Eate him, and Adoure him. But they make some accompt of the Worlde: they forsake not them selues: they folowe not Christe: and there∣fore they are not filled with him. Thus dooth S. Augustine expounde his owne meaninge:* 1.7 Inde erat Piscator &c. Of those Poore was Peter, and Iohn, and Iames, and Matthew the Publicane. They did Eate, and weare filled: for they suffred the same thinges, that they had Eaten▪ Christe gaue to them his Supper: he gaue to them his Passion: He is filled, that foloweth the same. Hitherto S. Augustine speaketh not one woorde of Adoration, either of the Sacrament, or of Christes Bodie, as beinge Really Pre∣sente in the Sacrament. Therefore M. Hardinge was the more blamewoorthy, thus to adde woordes of his owne vnto S. Augustine, and so vtterly to falsifie, and to corrupte his meaninge. It is no good Catholique pointe, so to vse the Olde Fa∣thers. Uerily,* 1.8 where as S. Augustine writeth thus, Nec sicut Pauperes saturati sunt vsque ad imitationem: Sed tamen Adorauerunt: Neither were they filled as the Poore, euen vnto the folowinge: and yet notwithstandinge they Adoured: M. Harding addeth therto of his owne, a pretie litle (it)* 1.9 which he found not in S. Augustine: & so maketh it vp thus, But yet haue they Adoured, and woorshipped it: and, as if it were good text of S. Au∣gustine, afterward he furnisheth it out with this Exposition, or Cōmentarie of his

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owne: that is, They haue acknowleged by Adoration Christe their Lorde there present. His frendes wil hardely thinke, there is so muche conninge in his dealinge. He cannot lightly lacke Authorities, as longe as he canne thus shape thē of his owne. But S. Augustine knoweth not, neither this Commentarie, not this texte: nor euer gaue M. Hardinge to vnderstande of this Corporal Presence. As it is saide, and prooued before, wée sée Christe, and worship Christe sittinge in Heauen.

Certainely S. Augustine,* 1.10 who best knew his owne minde, saith thus, Habes aurum: sed nondum tenes Praesentem Christum. Thou hast golde: but thou holdest not yet Christe Present. S. Augustine saithe, Christe is not here present. M. Hardinges Commentarie saith, Christe is here presente. Now let the Reader consider, whether of these twoo he wil beléeue.

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