A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.

The B. of Sarisburie.

It is true, That Christes Bodie, and his Godheade are ioined inseparably, and therefore must be Adoured both togeather. For we maie not diuide the Godheade from the Manheade, and so imagin two sundrie Christes, the one to be honoured, the other to stande without honoure, as did the Heretique Nestorius.* 1.1 But as the Bodie, and Soule of Man, beinge ioined both in one, are honoured both togeather: so must the Humanitie, and Diuinitie of Christe,* 1.2 beinge ioined both in one, like∣wise be honoured both togeather. Otherwise to saie, as the Heretique Nestorius saide, Thomas touched him, that was risen againe: and honoured him, that raised him vp,

it were greate blasphemie. Neuerthelesse, notwithstandinge the Bodie, and God∣heade of Christe be ioined in one Persone,* 1.3 yet are they distincte, and sundrie Natu∣res: The one Finite, the other Infinite: The one in place, the other incompre∣hensible without place: The one a Creature, the other the Creator. Neither is there any Godly honoure dewe vnto the Bodie of Christe in respecte of it self: but onely, for that it is ioined in one Person with the Diuinitie. Al these thinges be true, and out of question.

Likewise the woordes, that Christe spake in the sixth Chapter of S. Iohn, & are here alleged by M. Hardinge, are vndoubtedly true: howe be it not accordin∣ge to the simple sounde and tenoure of the letter: For that, as S. Augustine saith, were,* 1.4 Flagitium, & facinus, An Hainous wickednes: And, as Origen saith, It woulde kil the soule. And therefore Christe him self expoundeth his owne meaninge touchinge the same, It is the Sprite, that geueth life: the Fleashe profiteth nothinge. The woordes, that I haue spoken, be Sprite, and life. Whiche woordes S. Augustine expoundeth thus: Spiritualiter intelligite, quae locutus sum. Nō hoc Corpus, quod videtis, māducaturi estis. Vnderstande ye Spiritually the thinges,* 1.5 that I haue spoken. Ye shal not eate this Bodie, that ye see. Likewise Chrysostome, Secundum Spiritum verba mea audienda sunt: Qui secun∣dum Carnem audit,* 1.6 nihil lucratur, nihil vtilitatis accipit. My woordes must be hearde Spi∣ritually: Who so heareth them Carnally, or, accordinge to the Fleashe, geateth nothinge, nor hath any profite by them. He saith further by waie of obiection against him self, Quid ergo est Carnaliter intelligere? Simpliciter, vt res dicuntur: neque aliud quicquā cogitare. And what is meante by these woordes, To vnderstande accordinge to the Fleashe? He answeareth, It is to vnderstande simply, and plainely, euen as thinges be spoken, and to thinke vpon nothing els. Thus therefore Christe saide, to cutte of theire Carnal cogi∣tations, The woordes, that I spake are sprite, and life. As if he shoulde saie, Neither is my Fleashe meate, nor my Bloude drinke, to enter into your mouthes, and to feede your bo∣dies. But if your Soules be hungrie, I am Spiritual meate, to feede yowe: yf your Soules be thirstie, I am Spiritual drinke to refreashe yowe. To this purpose S. Chrysostome saith thus:* 1.7 Omnia tibi Christus factus est: Mensa, Vestimentū, Domus, Caput, & Radix &c. Christe is become ••l thinges vnto thee: Thy Table, thy Apparel, thy Howse, thy Heade, and thy Roote.* 1.8 S. Paule saith, As many of yowe, as are Baptized in Christe, ye haue put on Christe:* 1.9 Beholde, howe Christe is made thy Apparel. And wilt thou learne, howe he is become thy Table? He saith, vvho so eateth me, shal liue through me: And that he is thy Howse,* 1.10 he saith, VVho so eateth my Fleashe, dvvelleth in me, and I in him: And that he is thy Roote, againe he saith, I am the Vine, and you are the Branches. So saith Gregorius Nyssenus,* 1.11 Christe vnto the stronge is stronge meate: vnto the wea∣ker sorte he is Hearbes: and vnto infantes he is Milke. So saith Origen, Ne mireris: Quia verbum Dei & Caro dicitur, & Panis, & Lac, & Olera, & pro mensura credentium, vel possibilitate sumentium diuersè nominatur.* 1.12 Marueile not: For the woorde of God is cal∣led both Fleashe, and Breade, and Milke, and Hearbes: and, accordinge to the measure of the beleuers, and the possibilitie of the receiuers, is diuersely named. And likewise Gregorie Nazianzene,* 1.13 Quemadmodum Dominus noster Iesus Christus appellatur Vita, Via, Pa∣nis, Vitis, Lux vera, & mille alia, sic etiam appellatur Gladius. Like as our Lorde Iesus Christe is called the Life, the Waie, the Breade, the Vine, the true Light, and a thousande thinges els, so is he also called the Swearde. Nowe as Christe is Breade, euen so, in like manner of speache he is a Swearde, and none otherwise. Thus is Christe vnto vs a Spiritual Table, a Spiritual Apparel, a Spiritual Howse, a Spiritual Heade, a Spiritual Roote, Spiritual Meate, Spiritual Herbes, Spiritual Milke, Spiritual Fleashe, Life, Waie, Breade, Uine, and Light. And to this ende Christe saith, My Woordes be Sprite, and life.

Hitherto the woordes of Christe, that be here alleged, weigh very litle of M. Har∣dinges side.

Bysides al this, He saith, That whole Christe, both God, and Man, is Really, Substantially, and Carnally in the Sacrament. This thinge, bicause he is not hable any way to prooue, he presumeth of him self by authoritie, as though it were already prooued. It shalbe good, to geue him a daie, to consider the mater, and to prooue it better. In the meane season the substance of his reason standeth thus:

The Humanitie, and Diuinitie of Christe are ioined togeather in one Persone,

Ergo, we must Adoure the Sacrament with Godly Honoure.

Notes

• * 1.1

  Cyrillus in A∣polog••tico.
• * 1.2

  In Edicto Im∣peratoris Iusti. inter Decret•• Iohan. 2.
• * 1.3

  Concil. Chalce∣don. Actio. 1.
• * 1.4

  Augustin. De Doctrina Chri∣stiana. li. 3. c. 16. Origen. in Leui. hom. 7.
• * 1.5

  Augustin in Psalm. 98.
• * 1.6

  Chrysost. in Io∣han. hom. 47.
• * 1.7

  Chrysost. ad po∣pul. Antiochen. homi. 21.
• * 1.8

  Galat. 3.
• * 1.9

  Iohan. 6.
• * 1.10

  Iohan. 15.
• * 1.11

  Gregorius Nys∣sen. in vita Mo∣sis.
• * 1.12

  Origen. in Exo. ca. 15. homi. 7.
• * 1.13

  Nazianzen. in Psalm. 44.