A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.

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A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
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Jewel, John, 1522-1571.
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Imprinted at London :: In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes,
Anno. 1565.
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Harding, Thomas, 1516-1572. -- Answere to Maister Juelles chalenge.
Catholic Church -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
Catholic Church -- Doctrines -- Early works to 1800.
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"A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie." In the digital collection Early English Books Online. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A04474.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed June 15, 2024.

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The B. of Sarisburie.

If M. Hardinge be Persecuted, as he saithe, verily it seemeth a delicate kinde of Persecution. They of his side did not so persecute others. But Salomon saith, There be certaine that flee,* 1.1 when nomn foloweth them. Thus did Arius the Here∣tique sometimes complaine of his Persecutours: 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉. Arius that wrongefully suffereth Persecution for the Trueths sake, that conquereth al thinges.

As for M. Hardinges Constancie, which is here brought in, as in stéede of some proufe, I wil say nothinge. How be it his frendes thinke, So many, so light, and so suddaine changes, can scarcely stande wel with the title of Constancie. Certainely the mainteinance of open, & knowen errour, should rather haue some other name. The Prophete Zacharie saithe,* 1.2 Posuerunt vt Adamantem Cor suum: They haue sette their harte, as the Adamant stoane. Iob saithe, Stetit cor eius sicut incus: His harte stoode as a steadie. Yet might not they therefore be called constant. S. Hilarie saithe, Grauis, & periculosus est lapsus in multis.* 1.3 Etsi enim se intelligant, tamen pudor exurgēdi authoritatem sibi praesumit: vt, quòd errant, prudentiam velint existimari: quòd cum mul∣tis errant, intelligentiam esse asserant Veritatis. Fallinge from God in many men is gre∣ous, and dangerous. For, albeit they vnderstande them selfe, yet, for that they are asha∣med to rise againe, they therefore take vpon them some authoritie, and wil haue their Errour counted Wisedome: and, that they are deceiued with many, they cal it the vnderstandinge of the Trueth. Touchinge the purpose, it appeareth, this mater cannot stande without the disordringe, and confoundinge of the Natural course, and sounde of woordes. Sometimes the Accidentes, and Shewes of Breade muste be the Sacrament: Sometimes Christes Bodie, whiche, as M. Hardinge confesseth, in déede is not the Sacrament, yet to mainteine this newe Adoration, muste needes become the Sacrament. And thus now wée haue twoo Sacramentes togeather in one Sa∣crament. And yet in the Conclusion, we may not woorship the very Sacrament, but onely Christes Bodie in the Sacrament. And this, as M. Hardinge telleth vs, is a Proper, Plaine, Familiar kinde of speache, and accordinge vnto skil. Thus he teacheth vs to lifte vp our hartes, and to woorship God in Sprite and Trueth. Onlesse the simple people goe to the Uniuersities, and learne this newe skil, what

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is Accidens absque subiecto: Corpus sine loco: Locus sine Corpore: Quantitas sine mo∣do quanti, thei cannot skilfully woorship Christes Bodie. Or if they woorship with∣out this skil, they woorship one thinge for an other, and become Idolaters.

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