A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.

The B. of Sarisburie.

What Theodoretus thought in this behalfe, it is plaine by his owne woordes. For thus he writeth, Signa Mystica post Sanctificationem non recedunt à Natura sua:* 1.1 The Mystical Tokens after the Sanctification, or Consecration goe not from their owne Nature: that is to say, remaine in Substance, and Nature, as thei were before. By these woordes we may plainely sée Theodoretus iudgement. How be it, in al Sa∣cramentes twoo thinges must be considered, whereof, as Irenaeus saithe, they doo consiste. The one is Earthly, the other is Heauenly: The one wée sée with our Bo∣dily eies, the other wée sée with the eies of our Faithe: The one is in the Earthe, the other is in Heauen. These partes bicause they are ioined in one Mysterie, ther∣fore oftentimes thei scorce names, the one enterchangeably with the other. For as Christes very Bodie is called Breade, although in déede it be no Breade: So the Sacramental Breade is called Christes Bodie, although in déede it be not Christes Bodie. Therefore as the Sacrament is called Christes Bodie, euen so, accor∣dinge to the saieinge of Ignatius, it is the Fleashe of Christe,* 1.2 euen the same, that hath suffred for our Sinnes, and that the Father hath raised againe to life: that is to say, A Sacrament of that Fleashe. In like sorte S. Chrysostome writeth of the Sacrament of Baptisme:* 1.3 Ostendit hoc loco, idem esse Sanguinem, & Aquam. Baptisma enim eius, etiam Passio eius est. S. Paule sheweth in this place, that the Bloud (of Christ) and the water (of Baptisme) are both one. For Christes Baptisme, is Christes Passiō. He saith, The Water, & the Bloude of Christe are both one thing, & that, he saith, was S. Paules meaninge. Yet notwithstandinge, neither is the Water Christes Bloude in déede: neither is Christes Bloude in déede Material Water. But thus they borowe eche of them the others name, bicause they are ioyned togeather in one Mysterie. So is the Bloude of Christe called Water, bicause it cleanseth: so is the Water called Christes Bloude, bicause it is a Sacrament of that Bloude. And as S. Chrysostome saithe, The Water of Baptisme is Christes Bloude: euen so Ignatius saithe, The Breade is the Fleashe of Christe, and none otherwise. These thinges are plaine, and without cauil.

Therefore S. Augustine saith,* 1.4 Sacramenta ex Similitudine plerunque etiam rerum ip∣sarum nomina accipiunt. Ergo secundum quendam Modum Sacramētum Corporis Chri∣sti, Corpus Christi est: & Sacramentum Sanguinis Christi, Sanguis Christi est. Sacramen∣tes bicause of a certaine likenes, oftentimes receiue the names of the thinges them self (whereof they be Sacramentes).* 1.5 And therefore the Sacrament of Christes Bodie after a certaine manner (of speache) is the Bodie of Christe: And the Sacrament of Christes Bloude, is likewise (af∣ter a certaine manner) the Bloude of Christe.

But here hath M. Hardinge taken greate paines, to wreast, and to falsifie the plaine woordes of that holy Father Ireneus.* 1.6 For that parte of the Mysterie, that Ireneus calleth, Rem terrenam, an Earthly thinge, that is to saie, Breade, the same M. Hardinge, contrary to his Authours meaninge, calleth Formes, or Acci∣dentes, or Shewes of Breade. For this fonde, and Heathenishe kinde of speache was not heard of in the Churche in that holy Fathers daies: but was brought in welneare a thousande yeeres afterwarde, to accompanie Transubstantiation. But Ireneus in plaine wise calleth it a Creature.* 1.7 Thus he saith, Sāctificamus Creaturā: We doo sanctifie a Creature. Offerimus e•• ex Creatura eius: We offer vp vnto him of his Creature. And that he meaneth, not a miraculous Creature, as is Accidens sine sub∣iecto, the like whereof was neuer seene: but he saith simply,* 1.8 Creaturam, quae est secundum nos,* 1.9 Suche a Creature, as we haue in common vse: Suche as we see: Suche as we feele: Suche as we eate: Suche as we drinke: and, vtterly to cutte of al M. Har∣dinges shiftes,* 1.10 he saith, Ex illa augetur, & consisti•• Carnis nostrae Substantia. Of the same the Substance of our Fleashe is increased, and standeth. Therefore it is certaine, and most manifest by Ireneus, that, as Christes Bodie is the one parte of the Sacra∣ment, so is Material Breade the other. Likewise in Baptisme, as the one parte of that holy Mysterie is Christes Bloude, so is the other parte the Material Water. Neither are these partes ioined togeather in place, but in Mysterie: and therefore they be oftentimes seuered, and the one is receiued without the other. And for that cause S. Augustine saith,* 1.11 Qui discordat à Christo, nec Panem eius manducat, nec San∣guinem bibit: etiam si tantae rei Sacramentum ad iudicium suae praesumptionis quotidie in∣differenter accipiat, Who so disagreeth from Christe, neither eateth his Breade, nor drinketh his Bloude: although he daily receiue the Sacrament of so greate a thinge without difference to the iudgement of his presumption.

If any man thinke it strange, that the Sacrament is called the Bodie, and the Fleashe of Christe, beinge not so in deede, let him vnderstande, That the Written Woorde of God is likewise called Christes Bodie, and Christes Fleashe, euen the same, that was borne of the Uirgin, and that the Father raised againe to life: al∣though in deede it be not so.* 1.12 So saith S. Hierome: Quando dicit, qui non comederit Carnem meam, & biberit Sanguinem meum &c. Licet in Mysterio possit intelligi, tamen veriùs Corpus Christi, & Sanguis eius Sermo Scripturarum est. VVhen Christe saith, He that eateth not my Fleashe, and drinketh not my Bloude, &c. Notwithstandinge it maie be taken of the Mysterie,* 1.13 Yet the VVoorde of God is more truely the Bodie of Christe, and his Bloude. Here note, good Reader, That by these woordes of S. Hierome, the Woord•• of God is the Bodie, and Bloude of Christe, and that more truely, then is the Sa∣crament.

Notes

• * 1.1

  Theodoret. Dia∣logo. 2.
• * 1.2

  Theodoret. in Polymorpho.
• * 1.3

  Chrysostom. in Epist. ad Hebrae. Homil. 16.
• * 1.4

  Augustin. Epist. 23.
• * 1.5

  Secūdum quen∣dam Modum.
• * 1.6

  Irenaeus li. 4 ca. 34.
• * 1.7

  Irenaeus eodem loco.
• * 1.8

  Ibidem.
• * 1.9

  Secundum nos. 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉.
• * 1.10

  Ir••naeus li. 5.
• * 1.11

  Augustin. in li∣bro Sententia∣rum. senten. 338. Et in Iohan. tra∣ctatu. 26.
• * 1.12

  Hieronym. in Psalm. 147.
• * 1.13

  Veriùs.