A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.

The B. of Sarisburie.

Touchinge these Auncient Fathers, that here be alleged, notwithstandinge the credite of some of them might wel come in question, as namely that Chry∣sostome in his Liturgie praieth for the Emperour Alexius, whiche was not borne within fiue hundred yeeres after, that Chrysostome was dead: yet wil I spare both this, and also al other like aduantages, and receiue al these Authorities, as if they were good, and perfite without exception.

But firste, for the clearer conceiuinge of the answeare hereunto, vnderstande, good Christian Reader, that by the recorde of the Olde Fathers, Christe is present emongst vs sundrie waies.* 1.1 By his holy Sprite, as Cyrillus saithe: By his Grace, as Eusebius Emissenus saithe: By his Diuinitie, and Maiestie, as S. Augustine saithe: By Faithe dwellinge in our hartes, as S. Paule saithe. Thus is Christe most confortably Present in his Holy Woorde: in the Mysterie of Baptisme: and in the Sacrament of his Bodie.* 1.2 We denie onely that Grosse, and Fleashly Pre∣sence, that M. Hardinge here defendeth: wherein we haue the authoritie, & con∣sent of the Olde learned Fathers. For to allege one in stéede of many, S. Augu∣stine saithe, Corpus, in quo Resurrexit, in vno loco esse oportet. The Bodie, wherein Christe rose againe,* 1.3 must be in one place.

Here M. Hardinge, as his manner is, taketh one thinge in hande, and prooueth an other. For to prooue, that Christe is Really, and Fleashely Present in the Sa∣crament, he allegeth the Olde Fathers, that neuer spake one woorde of this Real, or Fleashely Presence. And therefore settinge such countenance vpon the mater, with the names of holy Fathers, and not once comminge neare that thinge,

wherein standeth the whole question, he dallieth vainely, and abuseth the simpli∣citie of the people. For touchinge Chrysostome, and Basile. we graunte, that Christe beinge in Heauen in his Humanitie, and in y^• Substance of his Bodie, is neuerthelesse by his Sprite, and Grace Inuisibly Present in his Sacramentes. Whiche answeare, notwithstandinge it might serue generally to al these authori∣ties here brought in, yet I haue thought it not amisse, to consider them al seueral∣ly, as they come.

Notes

• * 1.1

  Cyrill. in Iohan. li. 8. ca. 7. Emissen. De Con. Dist. 2.
• * 1.2

  Quia Corpus. Augustin. Tra∣ctatu in Iohā. 50 Ephes. 3.
• * 1.3

  Augustin. De Cōsecra. Dist. 2. Prima.