A defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande conteininge an answeare to a certaine booke lately set foorthe by M. Hardinge, and entituled, A confutation of &c. By Iohn Iewel Bishop of Sarisburie.

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A defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande conteininge an answeare to a certaine booke lately set foorthe by M. Hardinge, and entituled, A confutation of &c. By Iohn Iewel Bishop of Sarisburie.
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Jewel, John, 1522-1571.
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Anno 1567. 27. Octobris.
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Jewel, John, 1522-1571. -- Apologia Ecclesiæ Anglicanæ -- Early works to 1800.
Harding, Thomas, 1516-1572. -- Confutation of a booke intituled An apologie of the Church of England -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
Church of England -- Apologetic works -- Early works to 1800.
Church of England -- Doctrines -- Early works to 1800.
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The Apologie, Cap. 5. Diuision. 4.

And although the Popes had neuer hitherunto leasure to con∣sider diligently and earnestly of these maters, or though some other cares doo now let them, and diuers waies pulle them, or thoughe they coumpt these to be but common and trieflinge studies, and no∣thinge to appertaine to the Popes worthinesse, this maketh not why our mater ought to seeme the woorse. Or if they perchaunce wil not see that, whiche they see in deede, but rather wil withstande the knowen Cruthe, ought wee therefore by and by to be coumpted Heretiques, bicause wee obey not theire wil and pleasure?

M. Hardinge.

Sith Christe hath geuen to the Pope in Peter,* 1.1 whose laufull successour hè is, commission to feede his Sheepe: Holesome feedinge beinge thend of that commission, it is not to be doubted, but he that ordeined thend, hath also ordeined meanes belonginge to thend. Therefore it is not the dutie of a good and humble sheepe, to geue foorthe a malicious surmise, that the shepheard wil not see that he seeth in deede, but rather wil withstand the knowen Truthe. And what so euer sheepe be disobedient, and refuse to heare the voice of their sheepeheard, whom Christe hath made ouer them, the same be not of Christes folde. And mainteininge contrary Doctrine to their shepeheardes true Doctrine. iustly may they be accoumpted Heretikes.

The B. of Sarisburie.

To be Peters lauful Successour, it is not sufficient to leape into Peters stalle. Lauful Succession standeth not onely in possession of place, but also, and mutche rather in Doctrine and Diligence. Yet the Bishoppes of Rome, as if there were nothinge els required, euermore put vs in minde, and tel vs many gaye tales of theire Succession, Pope Symmachus saithe, In Papa si desint bona acquisita per meritum,* 1.2 sùfficiunt quae à loci Praedecessore praestantur:* 1.3 If the Pope wante vertūes,* 1.4 and goodnesse of his owne,* 1.5 yet the vertues that are geuen him by (Peter) his predecessour,* 1.6 are suffi∣cient. And the Glose vpon the same: Petrus fecit Papam haeredem bonitatis suae: Peter hath made the Pope Heire of his goodnesse.

But S. Hierome saithe farre otherwise: Non sanctorum filij sunt, qui tenent lo∣ca sanctorum: They be not euermore Holy mennes Children, that sitte in the roumes of Holy menne. Likewise saithe Alphonsus de Castro, a special assistante of that syde, Quamuis teneamur••••x Fide credere, verum Petri Successorem esse Supremum totius Ec∣clesiae Pastorem, tamen non tenemur eadem Fide credere, Leonem, aut Clementem esse verum Petri Successorem: Notwithstanding we be bounde by Faithe to beleue, that the true Successour of Peter is ye highest Shepheard of the whole Churche: yet are we not bounde by the same Faithe to beleue, that Leo, or Clement (being Eishoppes of Rome) are the true Suc∣cessours of Peter.

The woordes,* 1.7 that Christe spake vnto Peter, importe no Souerainetie, but

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were common to al the rest.* 1.8 S. Cyprian saithe, Hoc erant vti{que} coeteri Apostoli, quod fuit Petrus, pari cosortio praediti & Honoris, & Potestatis:* 1.9 The rest of the Apostles were euen the same, that Peter was, a endewed with like felowship both of Honour. and of Power. What special priuilege then can the Pope claime by the Succession of S. Peter? Or what talketh he of féeding the whole flocke of Christe, yt neuer feedeth any parte therof? wherin is ye Pope like S. Peter? or wherein euer was S. Peter like ye Pope?

Yet M. Hardinge doubteth not to geue his Definitiue Sentence, vvhat so euer Sheepe is not obedient to the Headshepheard, is not of the flocke of Christ. The Pope also him selfe boldely warranteth the same. Thus he saithe of him selfe, Quicun{que} praeceptis nostris non obedierit,* 1.10 peccatum Idololatriae, & Paganitatis incurrit: Who so euer obeieth not our commaundementes, falleth into the sinne of Idolatrie, and Infidelite. And therefore Pope Steuin thus auanceth the authoritie of his owne See: Sacrosancta Domina nostra Romana Ecclesia:* 1.11 Our Holy Lady the Churche of Rome.* 1.12

But Christe speaking of him selfe saithe,* 1.13 I am the True Sheepheard: And,* 1.14 Who so heareth these woordes of myne. and doeth the same. I wil liken him to a wise man. S. Paule beinge but one of the shéepe, saithe thus, I withstoode Peter (as M. Hardinge saithe, the Head shéepheard) euen vnto his face, for that he walked not vprightly to the Gospel of Christe. Yet was he a shéepe of the flocke of Christe. Hostiensis in this case seemeth reasonable:* 1.15 His woordes be these Omnes debent obedie Papae, quicquid praecipiat: nisi sequi possit peccatum: Al men must obey the Pope, what so euer he commaunde: so there fo∣lowe no sinne of his commaundement. Likewise Feliuus a notable Canoniste: Non ob∣stante Plenitudine Potestatis, quae est in Papa, non est obediendum ei, peccato imminente: Notwithstandinge the fulnesse of power, that is in the Pope, when sinne shal folowe his bid∣dinge, we may not obey him.

Yf the Pope wil claime the Headpast ourship ouer the whole flocke of Christe, or rather if he wilbe taken for any Pastour at al, let him then féede the Flocke: Let him breake the breade of Life, without Leauen: Let him speake the woorde of God truely, without fables: and wée wil heare him. Otherwise S. Augustine hath war∣ned vs:* 1.16 Sua si docere velint, olite audire, nolite facere. Certè enim tales sua quaerunt: non quae sunt Iesu Christi: If they wil teache you Doctrines of theire owne, see, ye heare them not: (and what so euer sutche thing they commaunde you) see, ye doo it not. For vndoubtedly sutche men seke for their owne maters: and not the thinges that perteine to Je∣sus Christe.

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