A defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande conteininge an answeare to a certaine booke lately set foorthe by M. Hardinge, and entituled, A confutation of &c. By Iohn Iewel Bishop of Sarisburie.

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A defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande conteininge an answeare to a certaine booke lately set foorthe by M. Hardinge, and entituled, A confutation of &c. By Iohn Iewel Bishop of Sarisburie.
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Jewel, John, 1522-1571.
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Anno 1567. 27. Octobris.
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Jewel, John, 1522-1571. -- Apologia Ecclesiæ Anglicanæ -- Early works to 1800.
Harding, Thomas, 1516-1572. -- Confutation of a booke intituled An apologie of the Church of England -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
Church of England -- Apologetic works -- Early works to 1800.
Church of England -- Doctrines -- Early works to 1800.
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M. Hardinge.

Your waitinge for a general Councel was not vncertaine. For at the settinge foorthe of your Apologie, it was farre and wel entred, and almost ended. VVhat so euer successe thereof should folow, ye ought not to haue refused it* 1.1 beinge in al respectes lawful.

Your assurance of Gods wil is none. That is but your common biewoorde, as it hath alwaies benne of Heretikes. Ye ought to haue shewed good euidence for your beinge sure of Gods wil, be∣fore ye attempted these greate and dangerous changes in Religion. Neither becommeth it you to cal the determinations of a General Councel the iudgementes of mortal men, so mutche as concerneth

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declaration of necessarie pointes of faithe, but the promptinge and teachinge of the Holy Ghoste.

As for your prouincial Synode, it was none. Synodes cannot be keapte without Bishops. Be∣fore ye claime the name of a Synode for your packinge and hudlinge togeather, ye muste proue your selues Bishops, whiche ye are not able to doo. VVhat so euer ye saie,‡ 1.2 there were neuer good men, nor Catholike Bishops, that kepte prouincial Synodes, contrarie to approued and law∣ful General Councels,* 1.3 as your Synode is moste contrary. Neither can ye pretend, that ye folowed any olde fathers, puttinge thinges in experience before the comminge to an Vniuersall Councel.

Your Councel prouincial holden in Germanie by Charles the greate, againste the seconde Nicene Councel general,‡ 1.4 is a false forged matter, as the Booke againste Images is, whiche one Eli Phili the man in the Moones sonne, Caluine, Illyricus, and other Heretikes haue fathered vpon that moste godly, and Catholike Emperoure.

The Councel, whiche you meane, was a Godly, and a Catholike Councel, holden at Franck forde by Pope Adrian, and Charles the greate,* 1.5 againste the wicked Councel of the Heretikes named * Imagebreakers, whiche they helde a litle before that at Constantinople, whiche of those Here∣tikes was called the seuenth, and general, of the Catholikes Pseudosynodus, that is to saie, the false or forged Councel. Of bothe these Councels, thus writeth Abbas Vrspergensis, so mutche commended of Melanchthon:* 1.6 The Councel whiche a fewe yeeres before was assem∣bled at Constantinople, in the time of Irene and Constantine her sonne, of them called the seuenth and Generall (in this Councel holden at Frankforde) was repealed and put awaie by consente of al, as voide and superfluous, so as from thence foorthe it shoulde be named neither the seuenth; nor ought els.

If you beleue not this, as the witnes of a Catholike writer, then beleue Anselmus Rid an erneste professour of your owne the newest Gospell.* 1.7 VVho writeth that Adrian the Bishop of Rome, and Kinge Charles, at the Councel holden at Frankforde, execrated, and accursed as Heretical, the Councel of the Empiere of Constantinople and of the Greekes, whiche they helde for thabolishinge of Sainctes Images. Those be his very woordes. Beleue Peucerus Philip Melancthons sonne in lawe writinge, that the Councel of Nice, was kepte by common consente of the Greeke Emperoure and of Charles. If the seconde Councel of Nice, whiche was altogeather for Images, was hol∣den by consente of Charles, howe helde he a Councel in Germanie, for puttinge awaie Images, a∣gainste the Councel of Nice? Beleue Carion, and specially Pantaleo of Zurich, a man of your owne the moste Euangelical Religion, who vpon warrante of thauthoritie of Regino writeth, that the Councel of Frank forde abrogated, and disanulled the Greekes Councel, that was againste the woorship of Images. Briefely, howe falsely you and sundrie other of your secte haue herein belied that woorthy Prince Charles the greate, it maie easely appeare by that Paulus Aemylius writeth of him: That he sente twelue Bishops out of Fraunce to the Councel then holden at Laterane in Rome, in whiche the Imagebreakers false named and forged Councel was a∣brogated.

VVhere of General Councels ye make priuate and prouincial Synodes, ye doo bisides learninge, reason, and custome of the Churche. A Councel is not accompted general bicause Bishops of al Countries vnder Heauen be assembled,‡ 1.8 but bicause many be assembled, and al be lawfully called. Els in times, when Heresies raigne, the Churche should neuer haue the necessarie remedie of a general Councel: for alwaies Heretikes woulde refuse to come to it, as ye haue, to come to the late Councel at Trente.

In Persia, Media, Egypte, Mauritania, I wene, ye finde fewe Bishops at this daie, nor many in the other Countries, whiche ye recken, and those in manner altogeather ignorant, and schismatikes. Yet the Patriarkes of Assyria, or Syria Orientalis, and of Armenia, who of late yeres were at Rome, haue for theire Prouinces bothe subscribed to the Councel of Trente,* 1.9 and receiued the whole Decrees of the same for theire peoples.

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Your reporte of fourty Bishops onely present at the Councel of Trent, and of their slender lerning, is as true, as your Doctrine contrary to that Councel is,‡ 1.10 that is to saie, in plaine termes, starke false. It is wel knowen there were at this late Councel of Trent in this Popes time, wel neare two hundred Bishops.

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