A defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande conteininge an answeare to a certaine booke lately set foorthe by M. Hardinge, and entituled, A confutation of &c. By Iohn Iewel Bishop of Sarisburie.

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A defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande conteininge an answeare to a certaine booke lately set foorthe by M. Hardinge, and entituled, A confutation of &c. By Iohn Iewel Bishop of Sarisburie.
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Jewel, John, 1522-1571.
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Imprinted at London :: In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Elephante, by Henry VVykes,
Anno 1567. 27. Octobris.
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Jewel, John, 1522-1571. -- Apologia Ecclesiæ Anglicanæ -- Early works to 1800.
Harding, Thomas, 1516-1572. -- Confutation of a booke intituled An apologie of the Church of England -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
Church of England -- Apologetic works -- Early works to 1800.
Church of England -- Doctrines -- Early works to 1800.
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The B. of Sarisburie.

Whether ye cal the Scriptures of God a Dumbe thing,* 1.1 or no, I reporte me to that, is saide before. One of you calleth it Mortuum Atramentum, Dead Inke: An other saith, Scriptura est res inanimis, & muta: The Scripture is a dead and a dumbe thinge: An other calleth the Scriptures, Nigrum Euangelium, The blacke Gospel. Nowe if the Scriptures be Dead, and Doumbe, and can not speake, then must it needes folowe, they are vnprofitable. Neither doo we despise the Autho∣ritie of Councelles. Good Councelles be graue, and reuerende. But thus we saie, Councelles are often against Councelles: And, if wee make rekening of number, the Arian Heretiques haue had moe Councelles, then the Christians. S. Hierome

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saithe,* 1.2 Spiritus Sancti Doctrina est, quae Canonicis literis prodita est: Contra quam si quid statuant Concilia, nefas duco: That is the Doctrine of the Holy Goste, that is set abroade in the Canonical Scriptures:* 1.3 Againste whiche Doctrine if Councelles determine any thing, I thinke it vvicked.

S. Chrysostome saithe further in more earneste sorte: Plus aliquid dicam: Ne Paulo quidem obedire oportet, si quid dixerit proprium, si quid humanum: I wil saie more: Wee ought not to beleeue, no not Paule him selfe, if he speake any thinge of his owne, or if he speake onely as a man.

And to encrease the vncertaintie hereof, the whole weighte, and iudgemente of Councelles hangeth nowe euermore vpon the Pope: as it maie appeare by these woordes of the Conclusion of the late Chapter at Trident: Saluasemper in omnibus Sedis Apostolicae Authoritate:* 1.4 The Authoritie of the Apostolique See in al thinges euermore reserued. But Platyna saithe, as it is alleged before, Acta priorum Pontificum sequentes Pontifices semper aut infringunt, aut omnino' tol∣lunt: The Popes, that folowe, doo euermore either breake, or wholy abrogate the Decrees of the Popes, that were before.

Whether the Scripture bee wel alleged, or otherwise, thereof, ye saie, the people maie not Iudge. For Christe saithe, The Scholar is not aboue his Maister. Cer∣tainely, M. Hardinge, the simplest of al the people, notwithstandinge, by youre restrainte, he maie not iudge of the Scriptures, yet he maie easily iudge of you, either that ye vnderstande not, or that ye vnaduisedly abuse the Scriptures. Whether it be the Woorde of God, or no, the people, ye saie, maie not Judge: And that ye proue euen by the Scriptures, God knoweth, ful handsomely, and ful discretely applied: For the Scholar (ye saie) is not aboue his Maister. Thus we maie learne by the Logique of Louaine, that Populus is Latine for a Scholar: & that Scrip∣ture is Latine for a Maister. And thus by youre vaine premisses without sense ye proceede vainely, and conclude nothinge.

O, M. Hardinge, haue some regarde to that ye write. The simpleste maie soone espie your dooinges. Ye can no longer thus mocke the worlde with shewes of woordes. Christe spake not these woordes of the vnderstandinge of the Scriptures: but of persequution for the Scriptures. For thus the woordes lie togeather: When they shal persecute you in one Cittie, flee into an other, &c. The Scholar is not aboue his Maister: Nor the Seruant aboue his Lorde. If they haue called the Maister of the house Beelzebub,* 1.5 howe mutche more wil they so cal his housholde seruauntes?

Alas, where learned you to frame sutche Argumentes, The Apostles, bee∣ing the Scholars, can nomore escape persecutiō, then could Christe, that vvas the Maister: Ergo, The people cannot vnderstande, vvhat they reade in the Scriptures? Here is neither Antecedente, nor Consequente, nor Sequele in Reason. For the honour of y Vniuersitie, haue better regarde vnto your Logique.

Ye bewraie the weakenesse of youre cause, when yee so sclenderly abuse the Scriptures.

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